What's interesting about your observation is that none of my 850 Pro SSD's (I have three of them) or my 870 QVO have a FC SMART ID statisticThe root cause of the problem may lie in the drive itself.
The new firmware may appear to fix the problem at first glance, but it may actually be just masking the problem.
We have to note the newly added SMART ID "FC".
Power On Hours for the failed drive?I bought 4 pcs of 870 EVO 1 TB in June 2021. The first one failed now with about 3 TB written, can no longer read some of the files on the disk, there are bad blocks and lots of read errors in the smart report. Disk manufacture date is 2021.01.
9031 hours at the moment. Can't say when the disk failed, it's only one large file that is unreadable at the moment and I hadn't been accessing it recently.Power On Hours for the failed drive?
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 11292
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 45
177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0013 099 099 000 Pre-fail Always - 1
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032 071 045 000 Old_age Always - 29
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
235 Unknown_Attribute 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 28
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 2674519688
252 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1468
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 20
177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0013 100 100 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032 069 056 000 Old_age Always - 31
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
235 Unknown_Attribute 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 4
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 809939957
252 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 22
252 0xFC | Newly Added Bad Flash Block | The Newly Added Bad Flash Block attribute indicates the total number of bad flash blocks the drive detected since it was first initialized in manufacturing.[81] |
I have read the whole thread including your messages, but there was some disagreement about the meaning of this smart parameter..I have posted in the past.
People on this forum don't read my posts at all.
SMART ID "FC" (252) is described on wikipedia as follows:
252
0xFCNewly Added Bad Flash Block The Newly Added Bad Flash Block attribute indicates the total number of bad flash blocks the drive detected since it was first initialized in manufacturing.[81]
With all these conditions, why do you think there is no need to worry?Thanks, yes, but it seems we don't know for sure what that value actually means (if we should be worried about it increasing or not).
Anyone ?So has anyone that have rma there bad 870 ssd, ever got a new one back, or are they just refurbished ssd's ? thx
System Name | Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x |
---|---|
Processor | 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15 |
Motherboard | z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth |
Cooling | oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15 |
Memory | Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb |
Video Card(s) | Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air |
Storage | 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's |
Display(s) | 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series |
Case | D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench |
Audio Device(s) | Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U |
Mouse | Redragon 901 Perdition x3 |
Keyboard | G710+x3 |
Software | Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3 |
Benchmark Scores | Are in the benchmark section |
Ok thx for reply.Hi,
If they send back a refurbished it will state it on the ssd label.
Crucial does this not sure what sammy does though.
Best to contact sammy directly.
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
If you ask and no one answers, that means noAnyone ?
System Name | Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x |
---|---|
Processor | 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15 |
Motherboard | z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth |
Cooling | oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15 |
Memory | Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb |
Video Card(s) | Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air |
Storage | 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's |
Display(s) | 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series |
Case | D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench |
Audio Device(s) | Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U |
Mouse | Redragon 901 Perdition x3 |
Keyboard | G710+x3 |
Software | Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3 |
Benchmark Scores | Are in the benchmark section |
Thx for replyHi,
lol
No, it's not a new one sent back using rma
No, it's not a refurbished one sent back using rma
Did I get that right if nobody responds
System Name | Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x |
---|---|
Processor | 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15 |
Motherboard | z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth |
Cooling | oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15 |
Memory | Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb |
Video Card(s) | Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air |
Storage | 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's |
Display(s) | 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series |
Case | D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench |
Audio Device(s) | Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U |
Mouse | Redragon 901 Perdition x3 |
Keyboard | G710+x3 |
Software | Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3 |
Benchmark Scores | Are in the benchmark section |
Hi,Thx for reply
System Name | Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x |
---|---|
Processor | 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15 |
Motherboard | z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth |
Cooling | oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15 |
Memory | Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb |
Video Card(s) | Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air |
Storage | 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's |
Display(s) | 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series |
Case | D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench |
Audio Device(s) | Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U |
Mouse | Redragon 901 Perdition x3 |
Keyboard | G710+x3 |
Software | Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3 |
Benchmark Scores | Are in the benchmark section |
Hi,I asked because, how would they even be able to refurbish a ssd in the first place, its not mechanical so no moving parts to go wrong, so they should only offer brand new, but i have read other places they did get a refurb of the same year ssd that are the problem.
System Name | X58 |
---|---|
Processor | Intel i7 950 @3.2GHz |
Motherboard | ASUS Sabertooth X58 |
Cooling | Corsair H70 AiO |
Memory | 6x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 @1600 9-9-9-24-41-2T |
Video Card(s) | Radeon R290X 4GB w/ Arctic Accelero Xtreme III |
Storage | Samsung 256GB 950 Pro NVMe, 1TB 870 Evo SSD, 4x 1TB Spinpoint F1 HDD / Crucial 128GB M4, 64GB C300 |
Display(s) | Benq 27" GW2760HS 1080p 60Hz |
Case | NZXT Phantom Full Tower white |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z523 2.1 / Steelseries Siberia V1 |
Power Supply | NZXT HALE90 850W white |
Mouse | A4Tech X7 XL-747H |
Keyboard | A4Tech X7 G600 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro X64 |
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
Can you confirm TRIM is running on your OS?Another one bites the dust!
SSD 870 EVO 1TB, made in China date 05.2021, firmware SVT01B6Q used exactly 1 year with only 4.5 TBW is having 265 bad blocks, read/write errors (can't fully backup data or install new games any more) and after each scan increasing ECC Error Rate / Uncrorrectable Error Count. Crystal Disk Info shows it's health at 77% and Disk Sentinel already at 57%. Sent the info's to Samsung for RMA start.
Here are the S.M.A.R.T data before/after Full Diagnostic Scan and the full scan results
I'm really worried about having the same drive and capacity in another device where it's an OS main drive. That one is from 04.2021, but the S.M.A.R.T values are ok since I only used it for 280h and 2.3 TBW.
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
It's about the only thing i can think of that could accelerate such an issuefsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0
System Name | X58 |
---|---|
Processor | Intel i7 950 @3.2GHz |
Motherboard | ASUS Sabertooth X58 |
Cooling | Corsair H70 AiO |
Memory | 6x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 @1600 9-9-9-24-41-2T |
Video Card(s) | Radeon R290X 4GB w/ Arctic Accelero Xtreme III |
Storage | Samsung 256GB 950 Pro NVMe, 1TB 870 Evo SSD, 4x 1TB Spinpoint F1 HDD / Crucial 128GB M4, 64GB C300 |
Display(s) | Benq 27" GW2760HS 1080p 60Hz |
Case | NZXT Phantom Full Tower white |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z523 2.1 / Steelseries Siberia V1 |
Power Supply | NZXT HALE90 850W white |
Mouse | A4Tech X7 XL-747H |
Keyboard | A4Tech X7 G600 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro X64 |
Yes, I can confirm TRIM is enabled. It's not the only SSD in my PC. The other ones (Crucial M4 and C300) are much older are still showing 0 bad blocks and 0 reallocated sectors after 25000 hours of usage. I use my SSD's only for games and downloads.Can you confirm TRIM is running on your OS?
It's about the only thing i can think of that could accelerate such an issue
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |