NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Founders Edition

Hattu · Nov 15, 2022

Right. I'm so glad that I live in Finland...

Rtx 4080: 1510-1980€
Rtx 4090: 2250-2600€

(There were some adjustments for lower prices after this announcement)... So they were higher before today....

Tziibuz! Last over ten years (from 'bout year ~2011) my whole computer built from ground up cost me like 1900-2300€, (GPU and CPU max 400€/piece), depending how and what to add in total price....

Nowadays:

MB 300-700€, CPU 500-700€, RAM... Like what, 3-6k€ total? No way. I'm keeping my current HW for several coming years. Or tens of them....

Insane! This has to stop....

BlaezaLite · Nov 15, 2022

Another giant card that just doesn't fit. In my case, wallet or Jenson's arse. Performance is good, but they've not got a clue about worldwide economy, hence dumb prices.

medi01 · Nov 15, 2022

TheinsanegamerN said:
The entire argument against it is "well nobody plays like that".

Nonsense. First Zens performed much better in newer games than older games, so the whole concept had failed to predict the only thing it was meant to predict: performance in newer games.

TheinsanegamerN said:
argument is whataboutism

When you make an argument on behalf of an imaginary opponent and defeat him as well. Amazing skills.
Also, learn what "whataboutism" means, before using that word.

DemonicRyzen666 · Nov 15, 2022

Dr. Dro said:
W1zz has been getting some flak for the stock 5800X testbench setup for some time now. It's a realistic setup which I personally love but if you're looking for maximum potential, it's not gonna cut it for current gen cards. The CPU just cannot do it.

AnotherReader said:
Probably different test scenes.

medi01 said:
Yeah, just noted. Thanks.

clopezi said:
Not huge at all, but anyway, who wants one of those cards to play 1080P games? C'mon, be realistic here.

Maybe they tested with 7950x then, that should make up that 10%.

Frick · Nov 15, 2022

At something like $800 this would be beastly.

Anyway, is it possible to add 4K 60hz to the power consumption section? That would make a lot more sense than 1080p 60hz, st least with cards like this.

Hattu · Nov 15, 2022

But I do appreciate the effort this site and it's pros take to make us these charts and data.

Thank you. All.

(I'm just baffled from these modern world prices nowadays).

Vario · Nov 15, 2022

Just a launch price, probably will come down once they milk the early adopters.

oxrufiioxo · Nov 15, 2022

This gpu is so weird to me and kinda reminds me of the 2080ti in the sense that the gen on gen performance increas is good with just the 1200 usd price tag making it bad... I still feel this should be a less than 1k usd gpu.

Given the specifications this is a better gpu than I expected but hopefully the high price is just to sell ampere stock then again if it sells out and stays sold out maybe Nvidia just knows more than we do about how much consumers are willing to spend on their products.

Vario · Nov 15, 2022

oxrufiioxo said:
This gpu is so weird to me and kinda reminds me of the 2080ti in the sense that the gen on gen performance increas is good with just the 1200 usd price tag making it bad... I still feel this should be a less than 1k usd gpu.

Given the specifications this is a better gpu than I expected but hopefully the high price is just to sell ampere stock then again if it sells out and stays sold out maybe Nvidia just knows more than we do about how much consumers are willing to spend on their products.

The efficiency is really stellar. I bet the 4060/70 will be a real sweet spot for a few years. Without cryptobuyers, the price will go down I am sure.

AnotherReader · Nov 15, 2022

DemonicRyzen666 said:
Maybe they tested with 7950x then, that should make up that 10%.

According to the end notes for their RDNA3 technical presentation, they tested with a 7900X.

oxrufiioxo · Nov 15, 2022

Vario said:
The efficiency is really stellar. I bet the 4060/70 will be a real sweet spot for a few years. Without cryptobuyers, the price will go down I am sure.

Yeah, on one hand it's much better than anything from the 3000 series in a lot of ways on the other hand the price sucks similarly to the launch prices of the 3080 12GB/3080 ti.

rv8000 · Nov 15, 2022

N3M3515 said:
How can a rip off be an editors choice?

This is one of the best parts of any tech reviews now.

There’s always some statement, blurb, or clarification within the body of the review saying the purpose of the independent review is to be objective. And then they list pros and cons which follow whatever subjective rating structure they’ve decided upon as a reviewer. They then state the tech market is ridiculously expensive, or power usage is insanely high, and then some how they give a buy this or editors choice recommendation, even though 90+ percent of tech users can’t afford it or maybe 5% or less actually need that hardware to run something.

I get that the pros and con list exist to cover those bases. Anyone is free to spend their money how they see fit, but when tech media gives new hardware a free pass “I recommend this”, it’s just another go ahead for any tech company to keep ramping up prices until some break point is hit where everyone is left wondering why no one is buying their products and the industry hits a massive slump.

medi01 · Nov 15, 2022

Hattu said:
Tziibuz! Last over ten years (from 'bout year ~2011) my whole computer built from ground up cost me like 1900-2300€, (GPU and CPU max 400€/piece), depending how and what to add in total price....

Nowadays:

MB 300-700€, CPU 500-700€, RAM... Like what, 3-6k€ total? No way. I'm keeping my current HW for several coming years. Or tens of them....

Insane! This has to stop....

Just a thought: if people start voting with their wallet (e.g. sharp drop of desktop CPU sales) perhaps certain überbrains will get an idea of a product "within given budget".

I.e. next gen that is not driven by what TSMC has randomly decided to charge, or leather man's oversize ego margins, but "The most competitive GPU I can roll out for $300". (price doesn't matter here, I hope you get an idea)

cellar door · Nov 15, 2022

Editor's Choice award - how? One of the worst price/perf cards... it's like these awards don't hold any value anymore.

Jeager · Nov 15, 2022

cellar door said:
Editor's Choice award - how? One of the worst price/perf cards... it's like these awards don't hold any value anymore.

That's what I wrote a few weeks ago already sadly ..
Review only take into account perfs (next 5080 will be 1K watts for only 3K but with all rewards

Shazamy · Nov 15, 2022

Thanks again for your efforts and another fantastic review @W1zzard

Bwaze · Nov 15, 2022

What's with the make believe prices in price / performance charts? RTX 3080, a two year old card, is still at MSRP, and actually getting more expensive as we speak. Because it is such a good value, compared to Ada dumpsterfire...

Hattu · Nov 15, 2022

medi01 said:
Just a thought: if people start voting with their wallet (e.g. sharp drop of desktop CPU sales) perhaps certain überbrains will get an idea of a product "within given budget".

I.e. next gen that is not driven by what TSMC has randomly decided to charge, or leather man's oversize ego margins, but "The most competitive GPU I can roll out for $300". (price doesn't matter here, I hope you get an idea)

Yeah, I'm with you. More or less. Hopefully (a lot of) less. I have no certain proof of anything, but prices have to stop inclining.

InfernalAI · Nov 15, 2022

DemonicRyzen666 said:
Maybe they tested with 7950x then, that should make up that 10%.

Linus review showed the 6950xt get 49fps average, JayTwoCentz showed 45 fps, TechpowerUp showed 39 fps, and then AMD's slide showed 43. This isn't a huge surprise or unpredictable, everyone is using a different test system, as well possibly testing it in different scenes. That is why various benchmarks are good, because we can then infer the average of everyone's test is what the typical performance would be. So somewhere around 44 fps is to be expected then.

Dr. Dro · Nov 15, 2022

N3utro said:
4080 is still more powerful than a 3090 ti for a lesser price so it's still nice to have compared to before. If the price trend follows for 4000 series we might have a 4060 ti for around $500 which is as powerful as a 3080 and using DLSS 3. We can even expect the price to be lower if AMD competition is good. I'm looking forward to buy a 4060 ti if this verifies.

The vanilla 3090 would make both moot at $900 from a price/perf/power consumption standpoint. I can't believe I'm making an argument favorable to the 3090 in power consumption, but alas - they are available in 2x8 pin format...

Raendor · Nov 15, 2022

I’d wait for 5060 which will be about 4080 and probably around those same 700 Eur I paid for my 3080 FE if nvidia continues stupid price increasing trend. Time to get back into budget-friendly midrange hardware

gffermari · Nov 15, 2022

.....still waiting for a fast card at 700$ range.

It doesn't look that the 4000 700$ card (if they create one) will be any different to the existing 3000 gpus.

kanecvr · Nov 15, 2022

Horrid performance / value. Hard pass. Guess I won't be getting new hardware anytime soon.

rv8000 · Nov 15, 2022

gffermari said:
.....still waiting for a fast card at 700$ range.

It doesn't look that the 4000 700$ card (if they create one) will be any different to the existing 3000 gpus.

With the exception of improved encoding, no. The 4000 series is pointless if you don’t need that or literally have money to burn.

bobmeix · Nov 15, 2022

@W1zzard
The review I've been waiting for. It's a shame the price is shamefully high! :rolleyes:

There seems to be a typo in the specs table. An extra "0" in the Navi31 transistor count.

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Founders Edition

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Frick

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Vario

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Vario

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medi01

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