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Either card is a great price.
Is the F.T.W one just as noisy as the normal EVGA one below ?It looks the same sort of fan so i should think it would. And is it as noisy as people say?
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I'm not saying I wouldn't own a blower style GPU, because I have one. This is one of my GTX 970s. The blower style fan just has a different tone to it, kinda like a hair dryer. The plus side is it exhausts 100% of its air out the back instead of heating up the inside of the case. I would put up with the tone for an otherwise really good deal. :)

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I'm not saying I wouldn't own a blower style GPU, because I have one. This is one of my GTX 970s. The blower style fan just has a different tone to it, kinda like a hair dryer. The plus side is it exhausts 100% of its air out the back instead of heating up the inside of the case. I would put up with the tone for an otherwise really good deal. :)

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Yeah, I have a couple of the founders edition GTX 970's and they are not bad. Heck, I always ran them at about 40% fan curve and couldn't hardly hear them. There are many things in a computer that are louder than the blower style fans.
 
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I'm not saying I wouldn't own a blower style GPU, because I have one. This is one of my GTX 970s. The blower style fan just has a different tone to it, kinda like a hair dryer. The plus side is it exhausts 100% of its air out the back instead of heating up the inside of the case. I would put up with the tone for an otherwise really good deal. :)

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Is there much difference between the non-F.T.W version of the card? Bearing in mind the F.T.W is £14 pounds more? I see the F.T.W. does not have a backplate on it. I think the ASUS is going to be more than the £39 pound of the F.T.W version.
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Can i ask you some questions is this FTW better than the one in the video Full working order, tested recently for £39?The seller has removed the buy it now for the Asus one so don,t know how much that will go for on Auction.o_O Or should i go for this one EVGA the normal one for £20 ?People have said the EVGA it is very loud.I just looked on F.M.P and some one is selling the F.T.W for £20 ? o_OAs is the case most of the time it is in the other side of the country.:(So whats your view on all this Lex?The guy selling Asus card is a new seller i don,t think he knows what he is doing.He got back to me saying quote*You can buy it now for 30* I don,t know Weather he wants to sell it to me for that price or not.Of course i said to him that would be fine by me.Looking at the price for Asus cards they are the smaller ones without the back plate.I think he could get £50 for it,But i am happy to take it off his hands for 30. :)
As Mr Scott said, either one would be a good buy.

And is it as noisy as people say?
Not really, they're actually fairly quiet.
 

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Asus ROG Commando complete with IO shield and proprietary sound card, E6300, 4gb Kingston Ram, Sapphire HD5450 1gb, and a copper core Intel cooler.

Was sold as is since it had been sitting for years but was a working pull prior. Still works fine. I really wasn't in the market for this and didn't want everything the board came with, but for the price I couldn't resist.

I need to stop buying 775 boards but I know myself well enough to know that will never happen :)


Nice board. From my experience the p45 platinum isn't the best board for OC but it looks really neat.
Nice! Commando was one of the first ROG boards, I actually haven't even thought that the brand is over 16 years old already.
 
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The difference is minor. Either one will be an excellent choice for the system you're building.
I thought that was the case, I got in touch with the seller on F.M.P. I will see if he can do it for cheaper than £25. In the meantime, I have other options, to wait to see how the Asus the one with the back plate goes in the auction that finishes late tomorrow.
And because I have been looking at this a few times I have got an offer to buy this for £40 down from £50 ASUS GTX 760 (2048 MB) (GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5) Graphics Card - Great condition: Seller refurbished. I see it is one of the smaller-sized cards. From what people say there is not much in it between the 670 and the 760. I just hope my 500w CTI PSU can handle it.
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Any of the three cards you are considering would be fine. The FTW & Asus DirectCU II OC are both factory overclocked a little bit, but you can easily overclock the standard EVGA card to the same clocks as the FTW. The Asus recommends a 450w PSU so you're good there.
 
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Any of the three cards you are considering would be fine. The FTW & Asus DirectCU II OC are both factory overclocked a little bit, but you can easily overclock the standard EVGA card to the same clocks as the FTW. The Asus recommends a 450w PSU so you're good there.
Thanks again for your advice. :)I will leave it open.It seems from what i have read on line there is not much between them only the noise facter of the blower 670.
 
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This was sold as a "Gforce Pny Video Card model 392" and as with a lot of PNY cards the stickers on it don't help identify it much at all. I concluded it was probably a 9800 GTX but I couldn't be sure so I put a conservative bid on it accordingly, and to my surprise nobody else bid on it.

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Turns out it's a working PNY Reference 9800 GTX+ (G92 B1 revision). I haven't stress tested it yet, but it does boot windows and drivers install so I'm betting it's perfectly fine.

Went ahead and repasted it and blew out some dust. Probably will stick this in a core2 machine.
 
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The difference is minor. Either one will be an excellent choice for the system you're building.
His never happy with what he buys for peanuts it' was only 5 euros I would be over the moon paying five pounds for it. :) Some people are never satisfied.o_OHe could sell the GPU for more than 5 euros. I dare say he could get more than 5 euros for the case. I see very few PCs at my local flea market. and if I do they are the usual Dell and HP. I did see an old Mac pro like the one here. I do like his videos but he is a moaning mini. o_OI don,t think anyone likes those crap
push pin Heatsinks.:(


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I am just finishing off my first build problem is as you can see very little room to get the 12 watts 8-pins in o_OWich way do I plug the m in their two plugs. I had a lot of trouble getting the motherboard holes to match up. One of them has been tightened up but it is still looseo_O the rest of the screws have tightened up fine. Had a lot of trouble with those little connectors. Apart from getting 8 pin connector, everything looks fine, I just hope it works.I don,t know why the connecter is right in the corner.:(I hope everything is connected properly o_OI will be well pleased if it does work.:)
 

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.I don,t know why the connecter is right in the corner.

A lot of the CPU power connectors are in the corner on the older motherboards. They were always a pain in the butt to connect.
I found that a pair of needle nose pliers or medical forceps would work best for reaching down in there to connect the plug to the socket.
 
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A lot of the CPU power connectors are in the corner on the older motherboards. They were always a pain in the butt to connect.
I found that a pair of needle nose pliers or medical forceps would work best for reaching down in there to connect the plug to the socket.
It certainly is. :( Thanks but which way do I connect the 2 x 4 connectors the clips facing the fan or facing the case?
 

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What's all that about Lex? :laugh:Do I need to have the 8 pins connected?
On the PSU?

A lot of the CPU power connectors are in the corner on the older motherboards. They were always a pain in the butt to connect.
I found that a pair of needle nose pliers or medical forceps would work best for reaching down in there to connect the plug to the socket.
Can i get away with just useing the one 4 pin?I did at somepoint push the plugs togeterher.
 
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Clip faces right, lines up with the notch on the eps connecter on the board.

If the cable is long enough, you can try and run it behind the motherboard tray and then across the top to the connector on the board like this.
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You will need a graphics card to get this system up and running. P45 has no graphics built in.
 
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This was sold as a "Gforce Pny Video Card model 392" and as with a lot of PNY cards the stickers on it don't help identify it much at all. I concluded it was probably a 9800 GTX but I couldn't be sure so I put a conservative bid on it accordingly, and to my surprise nobody else bid on it.

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Turns out it's a working PNY Reference 9800 GTX+ (G92 B1 revision). I haven't stress tested it yet, but it does boot windows and drivers install so I'm betting it's perfectly fine.

Went ahead and repasted it and blew out some dust. Probably will stick this in a core2 machine.

The 9800 GTX/+ is the only card to use that rounded cooler design, so you were right to come to that conclusion. It's very hard to find these that aren't all horribly scratched up.

Overclocking on these is a dream. +200MHz core, +300MHz memory, +200MHz Shader is pretty typical. Some will go as high as 2300MHz on the shader.
 
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The 9800 GTX/+ is the only card to use that rounded cooler design, so you were right to come to that conclusion. It's very hard to find these that aren't all horribly scratched up.
It's got it's fair share of small scratches but overall is in decent shape. I might see just what newer games I can get running on this because it has some power behind it still. I know lack of proper dx11 support let alone dx12 will not allow much to run though.

A lot of the CPU power connectors are in the corner on the older motherboards. They were always a pain in the butt to connect.
I found that a pair of needle nose pliers or medical forceps would work best for reaching down in there to connect the plug to the socket.
I think the very worst case of this is the EVGA X58 boards. Where the connector is in the corner of the board squeezed so close to the vrm heatsink that the latch of the eps often gets caught on it.
 
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It's got it's fair share of small scratches but overall is in decent shape. I might see just what newer games I can get running on this because it has some power behind it still. I know lack of proper dx11 support let alone dx12 will not allow much to run though.


I think the very worst case of this is the EVGA X58 boards. Where the connector is in the corner of the board squeezed so close to the vrm heatsink that the latch of the eps often gets caught on it.
Clip faces right, lines up with the notch on the eps connecter on the board.

If the cable is long enough, you can try and run it behind the motherboard tray and then across the top to the connector on the board like this.View attachment 276021

You will need a graphics card to get this system up and running. P45 has no graphics built in.
The board is MSI 7513 all I am getting is a red light and no lights on the front of the case, and to cap it all I tried to get the board out of the case it is just going around with the standoff. it would be a standoff that I can,t get to :(I take it you weren't, talking to me about a GPU to make it work? I wanted to get the board out. What does it mean just a Red light nothing else.i have connected all power and all that stuff .It is a E8600..
 
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The board is MSI 7513 all I am getting is a red light and no lights on the front of the case, and to cap it all I tried to get the board out of the case it is just going around with the standoff. it would be a standoff that I can,t get to :(I take it you weren't, talking to me about a GPU to make it work? I wanted to get the board out. What does it mean just a Red light nothing else.i have connected all power and all that stuff .It is a E8600..
That was directed at you. Sorry I should have quoted.

Your board doesn't have any built in graphics, you are going to need a graphics card for it to function.

Also your ram is in the wrong slots. Try slots 2 and 4.
 
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That was directed at you. Sorry I should have quoted.

Your board doesn't have any built in graphics, you are going to need a graphics card for it to function.

Also your ram is in the wrong slots. Try slots 2 and 4.
Ok thanks :)But why am i not getting any light on the power button ?I can,t get the board out one of the stand off is going round with the screw:(Next time i build should i tighten the stand offs more?I wish i had tried it before i put it in the case. :(

I managed to get the motherboard out and tried it again and something went pop.Is that a PSU problem or motherboard?
Is this the right way fit the 12 v 2x 4 pins with the clips facing the fan see photo. fan. Because when i turned it one it went pop? :(
Does it mean the PSU has blown ?I just placed the motherboard in
the case ,the red light stayed on. mind you i turner it straight on.Is it worth me trying the Psu in another PC or will it do damage to that?o_OIt is the first time i plugged in the full 8 pin 2x 4 on the 12v rail.
If they were in the wring way round nothing would work. See photo clips of the connectors facing the the Heatsink.
it went like this ts the end of my first build. :(I was pleased with my first PC I don,t know to whether the motherboard is working or not. When I get another motherboard I will check if it is working.at least I know what to do now.
 

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