Intel Launches Core i9-13900KS 8P+16E Flagship Processor at $700

[btarunr]

Intel today formally launched the Core i9-13900KS "Raptor Lake" flagship desktop processor. At an MSRP of USD $700, the i9-13900KS is positioned a notch above the $590 i9-13900K, which it replaces as the top 13th Gen Core desktop part you can buy. The i9-13900KS features the same 8P+16E core-configuration as the i9-13900K, but at increased clock speeds and power limits. It is the world's first 6 GHz processor, with its maximum boost frequency set at exactly 6.00 GHz, up from 5.80 GHz of the i9-13900K. This is not just a minor +200 MHz speed bump, but backed by increased power-limits, which enable improved multi-threaded boost-frequency spread thanks to the Adaptive Boost Technology carried over from the previous-generation i9-12900KS.

The 8 "Raptor Cove" P-cores of the i9-13900KS are clocked at 3.00 GHz base with up to 6.00 GHz boost, compared to 3.00/5.80 GHz of the i9-13900K, while the E-core frequencies are left untouched at 2.20 GHz base and up to 4.30 GHz boost. The big change here is the processor base power value, which is now set at 150 W, compared to 125 W of the i9-13900K, and while the maximum turbo power value is the same 253 W, Intel has changed the way its power headroom is utilized to support improved boost frequency spread across the P-cores. It seems like Intel hasn't sampled tech publications this processor, and the handful publications that have posted their reviews today using processors sourced from friendly retailers, report increased power-draw, and the need for large aftermarket cooling solutions even at stock frequencies. The i9-13900KS is being offered as an overclocking-friendly chip to those who know what they're doing and can handle extreme cooling solutions.



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[P4-630]

Will run hot just like the x3d CPU's from AMD, the AMD x3d CPU's will also be hard to keep them cool at their top speeds....

 

[btarunr]

This would've easily been a $999 processor if AMD didn't put out its X3D performance claims at CES.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Boost straight to Hatti in record time

 

[Chaitanya]

Yikes.

 

[Slizzo]

Will run hot just like the x3d CPU's from AMD, the AMD x3d CPU's will also be hard to keep them cool at their top speeds....

X3D processors are likely going to be on a lower TDP than the regular X variants, just like the non-X CPUs. I'm willing to wager their temps are going to be in between the non-X and X variants, and be closer to the non-X.

 

[Fouquin]

while the E-core frequencies are left untouched at 2.20 GHz base and up to 4.30 GHz boost.

Intel has published 2.4GHz E-Core base on Ark. We should get a confirmation on which it is, because prior to launch I also kept hearing 2.2GHz.

Intel® Core™ i9-13900KS Processor (36M Cache, up to 6.00 GHz) Product Specifications

Intel® Core™ i9-13900KS Processor (36M Cache, up to 6.00 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

ark.intel.com

 

[MagnuTron]

400W chip right there.

 

[ARF]

X3D processors are likely going to be on a lower TDP than the regular X variants, just like the non-X CPUs. I'm willing to wager their temps are going to be in between the non-X and X variants, and be closer to the non-X.

Yup, they will operate at much lower temperatures because the design doesn't tolerate them being high.

TDP of 120 W vs 170 W previously and T°max lowered to 89°C vs 95°C previously.

AMD Ryzen 7000 X3D CPUs Have A 6C Lower Tjmax of 89C Versus The 95C On Non 3D V-Cache SKUs (wccftech.com)

 

[Deleted member 185088]

It seems Intel will be stuck at 10nm for a while, only pushing the boundaries of power, and adding more e-cores for leading benchmarks.
It is pathetic given that they have their Ower foundry, they should crush AMD, if not by performance by price.

 

[ARF]

It seems Intel will be stuck at 10nm for a while, only pushing the boundaries of power, and adding more e-cores for leading benchmarks.
It is pathetic given that they have their Ower foundry, they should crush AMD, if not by performance by price.

Nah, the shareholders demand new private jets and yachts every year

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Nah, the shareholders demand new private jets and yachts every year

They must love my avatar

 

[Assimilator]

This would've easily been a $999 processor if AMD didn't put out its X3D performance claims at CES.

It's a halo product, what does it matter whether the price is 700 bucks or 1,000 bucks or 1 million?

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

It's a halo product, what does it matter whether the price is 700 bucks or 1,000 bucks or 1 million?

There were talks about this chip well before AMD announced their X3D chips for the 7000 series.

 

[Daven]

While I know this chip was built to break overclocking records, it would be nice if someone could start undervolting competitions where you pick the best chip to keep the most stock performance at the lowest voltage and therefore power usage.

 

[Argyr]

Nah, the shareholders demand new private jets and yachts every year

what about AMD shareholders? I guess all they want is world peace and free hardware for everyone

 

[Garrus]

The Ryzen 7700X is so vastly superior to the 13900K and 13900KS it is kind of silly at this point. 7800X3D will end it.

There are an awful lot of people grasping at anything to keep Intel on top. Meanwhile the 7700X is beating the 13900KS at counter strike, Horizon, Hitman 3, and more. If you're trading blows but being limited to 280W at 100 degrees with a 420mm $300 cooler and thermal Grizzly contact frame, you've lost the plot. Can cool the 7700X with a $25 tower cooler.

 

[Dr. Dro]

The Ryzen 7700X is so vastly superior to the 13900K and 13900KS it is kind of silly at this point. 7800X3D will end it.

There are an awful lot of people grasping at anything to keep Intel on top. Meanwhile the 7700X is beating the 13900KS at counter strike, Horizon, Hitman 3, and more. If you're trading blows but being limited to 280W at 100 degrees with a 420mm $300 cooler and thermal Grizzly contact frame, you've lost the plot. Can cool the 7700X with a $25 tower cooler.

Surely you jest? Zen 4 is a flop, no one wants it, the Zen 3 has been outselling 4 at ~6 to 1 according to Mindfactory data. It's got plenty of early AGESA bugs, requires DDR5 memory and extremely high platform cost thus far, in addition to its failure to beat Intel's offerings throughout, its gaming performance is similar to that of the i9-11900K. The X3D is an attempt to change that, that isn't to say that it's not a decent performer but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Review - The Best Zen 4 for Gaming - Game Tests 1080p / RTX 3080 | TechPowerUp

It doesn't perform anywhere near as well as the Raptor Lake chips for gaming.

 

[JustBenching]

The Ryzen 7700X is so vastly superior to the 13900K and 13900KS it is kind of silly at this point. 7800X3D will end it.

There are an awful lot of people grasping at anything to keep Intel on top. Meanwhile the 7700X is beating the 13900KS at counter strike, Horizon, Hitman 3, and more. If you're trading blows but being limited to 280W at 100 degrees with a 420mm $300 cooler and thermal Grizzly contact frame, you've lost the plot. Can cool the 7700X with a $25 tower cooler.

Uhm, what? The 7700x is nowhere near the 13900k, what the heck are you talking about? The 7700x is a 12600k competitor in MT performance.

It's funny though, you think the 13900k consumes 280w at 100 degrees playing cs go? Uhm, okay, does Valorant count? I tried it, cpu was at 40 watts. So yeah, classic amd hive mind spreading misnformation.

 

[Dave65]

I wonder if tech tubers will trash this like they did AMDs new CPUs, I doubt it.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I wonder if tech tubers will trash this like they did AMDs new CPUs, I doubt it.

They have. Hardware Unboxed is calling it a ripoff.

This is no different from the i9-12900KS though. It's just pre-overclocked, binned version of the 13900K for people that want e-peen.

 

[maxfly]

Give me a 13900k, a $75 EK ihs removal tool and a $350 EK limited edition Velocity2 direct die block and I'll kill it, kill it I say!!! Pfft hahaha

 

[Garrus]

Surely you jest? Zen 4 is a flop, no one wants it, the Zen 3 has been outselling 4 at ~6 to 1 according to Mindfactory data. It's got plenty of early AGESA bugs, requires DDR5 memory and extremely high platform cost thus far, in addition to its failure to beat Intel's offerings throughout, its gaming performance is similar to that of the i9-11900K. The X3D is an attempt to change that, that isn't to say that it's not a decent performer but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Review - The Best Zen 4 for Gaming - Game Tests 1080p / RTX 3080 | TechPowerUp

It doesn't perform anywhere near as well as the Raptor Lake chips for gaming.

It's not a flop. It is very cheap to manufacture. AMD will slowly lower the prices until the 7700X is positioned against the 13600k (instead of the 7600X) and the superior 7900X against the 13700k etc.

They are doing great. Silicon efficiency is through the roof compared to Intel. It's going to do great harm to Intel's finances over the next year.

AMD makes more money than Intel with their CPUs against Intel's at the same performance.

Also your claim about the gaming performance of the 7700X is way off. "Similar to the 11900k" you said. "Not nearly as good as Raptor Lake for gaming".

This is the most up to day game comparison data.

7700X beats everything except the 13900k. 13600k loses to the 7600 with PBO loses to the 7600X at stock.

Techpowerup should revisit their review, just 20 games for example with just 2 CPUs. The 7700X versus the 13600K for example, since they are the same price. Their review is off.

I'm going to show you a chart, but not going to argue with you about it. We'll talk after the 7800X3D comes out, since you're skeptical it can beat Intel, which I find funny. You are not going to notice any difference between the 13900KS and the 7700X in gaming. The 7800X3D on the other hand will be so fast at "certain" games heavily affected by memory pressure, with those you will notice a huge difference, and the games that are not affected? 13900KS performance.

 

[Bwaze]

It's not a flop. It is very cheap to manufacture. AMD will slowly lower the prices until the 7700X is positioned against the 13600k (instead of the 7600X) and the superior 7900X against the 13700k etc.

It doesn't matter much if AMD lowers CPU prices, the main obstacle is whole system cost! Much higher motherboard prices + much higher DDR5 prices haven't brought the performance increase in line with price increase, that's why people are still buying previous gen.

 

[Garrus]

It doesn't matter much if AMD lowers CPU prices, the main obstacle is whole system cost! Much higher motherboard prices + much higher DDR5 prices haven't brought the performance increase in line with price increase, that's why people are still buying previous gen.

That's true. But not an AMD problem. DDR5 is the same for both (and all those fancy Intel benchmarks are for Intel using much more expensive DDR5 than the AMD results). As for motherboards, again AMD boards are cheaper. The cheapest B760 board for Intel to release in Canada so far is $180 USD. As the transition to DDR5 speeds up this year the old DDR4 stuff will go off the market. It is already happening. RTX 3080 is gone also.

The AMD Asus Tuf B650 ATX MB is much cheaper than the equivalent Z790 version.

The design of Zen4 is a huge success (much faster than people were expecting from the early leaks) and it costs little for AMD to make, it is a commercial success, the better product you have that you can make for less, that's a win.