Which PSU maker is the most reliable?

kiriakost · Jan 10, 2023

mclaren85 said:
From the official local Seasonic distributor.

Perfect !!

mclaren85 · Jan 10, 2023

Efkharistó!

I trust Seasonic fully; only concern I have is whether the power is adaequate or not.

kiriakost said:
Perfect !!

kiriakost · Jan 10, 2023

mclaren85 said:
Efkharistó! I trust Seasonic fully; only concern I have is whether the power is adequate or not.

Did you know of what we did at 2003 (computer mod's) when all PSU was medium in wattage 400W?
We was connecting two in parallel.

In case of emergency I will combine PRIME TX 750 & PRIME Fanless TX 700 = 1450 W

mclaren85 · Jan 10, 2023

kiriakost said:
Did you know of what we did at 2003 (computer mod's) when all PSU was medium in wattage 400W?
We was connecting two in parallel.

In case of emergency I will combine PRIME TX 750 & PRIME Fanless TX 700 = 1450 W

Brilliant idea! but not so feasible isn't it? Two seperate psus wont fit in my case. Let's hope 750w would be enough.
I will update the situation as soon as my order arrives.
Stay tuned!

ThrashZone · Jan 10, 2023

Hi,
750w should be just fine within default cpu/ gpu turbo.
Try and get a wall plug called kill-a-watt ez

https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4460-Kill-A-Watt-Tm-Ez/dp/B01IE05C82

mclaren85 · Jan 10, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
750w should be just fine within default cpu/ gpu turbo.
Try and get a wall plug called kill-a-watt ez

https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4460-Kill-A-Watt-Tm-Ez/dp/B01IE05C82

I can't count how many things I have learned in this forum, Thanks all of you..

Is this for tracking instant power consumption?

ThrashZone · Jan 10, 2023

mclaren85 said:
I can't count how many things I have learned in this forum, Thanks all of you..

Is this for tracking instant power consumption?

Hi,
Yes what your system is pulling from the wall socket

Some back up battery systems do this to this might be the best investment but costs a lot more than the kill a watt device :cool:

kiriakost · Jan 10, 2023

mclaren85 said:
I will update the situation as soon as my order arrives.
Stay tuned!

I can sense it too, enthusiasm level measurement = over the roof.

Its about a Seasonic PSU after all !

In two weeks time I will install my PRIME TX750 too.
My chance to review it prior using it, this helped me to realize of how excellent it is this beast.

Shrek · Jan 11, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Try and get a wall plug called kill-a-watt ez

https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4460-Kill-A-Watt-Tm-Ez/dp/B01IE05C82

Those are really nice units; I use the old version (still available)
Amazon.com: P3 P4400 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor : Electronics
which has no built in battery backup (which I prefer)

I did need to repair it when the screen started to fade, but maybe the new model is better.

mclaren85 · Jan 12, 2023

Baby arrived! But they removed the seasonic bag because of Covid-19

kiriakost · Jan 12, 2023

mclaren85 said:
Baby arrived! But they removed the seasonic bag because of Covid-19

I bet that at your next login, you will be powered By Seasonic (again)

I have old school likes, the Seasonic PC case badge, this measure more to me.

mclaren85 · Jan 12, 2023

kiriakost said:
I bet that at your next login, you will be powered By Seasonic (again)

I have old school likes, the Seasonic PC case badge, this measure more to me.

Thank God yes!

And I also stress tested my system to the limits, (R9 3900x + RTX 3080). As for now, it seems 750w is enough.

To be honest, I wouldn't enjoy my rig as much if I picked up another PSU brand.

Thanks to everyone who have contributed!

Count von Schwalbe · Jan 12, 2023

mclaren85 said:
I wouldn't enjoy my rig as much if I picked up another PSU brand.

Not even MSI?

mclaren85 · Jan 12, 2023

Count von Schwalbe said:
Not even MSI?

Nice question. There were cheaper MSI alternatives of which I never thought of buying. PSU thing is no joke.. It's about trust and I do trust Seasonic

SoppingClam · Jan 14, 2023

After 30 years as an electrical engineer and having tested 100s of PSU's Corsair AX and HX1000+ series are brilliant. I personally build my own PSUs that cost a lot more than these because of the premium of parts you could never have in any mass produced company.

Shrek · Jan 14, 2023

How do you get to construct the main high frequency transformer correctly? as I understand it tends not to generic but rather very particular to a supply.

P4-630 · Jan 14, 2023

Kinda hard to believe...

freeagent · Jan 14, 2023

SoppingClam said:
After 30 years as an electrical engineer and having tested 100s of PSU's Corsair AX and HX1000+ series are brilliant. I personally build my own PSUs that cost a lot more than these because of the premium of parts you could never have in any mass produced company.

In my 21 years trolling hardware forums like this one, you are the first person I have seen to make that claim, nice one!

Do you have a pic or two?

P4-630 · Jan 14, 2023

freeagent said:
In my 21 years trolling hardware forums like this one, you are the first person I have seen to make that claim, nice one!

Do you have a pic or two?

Might be a friend of our Greeceman....

ThrashZone · Jan 14, 2023

SoppingClam said:
After 30 years as an electrical engineer and having tested 100s of PSU's Corsair AX and HX1000+ series are brilliant. I personally build my own PSUs that cost a lot more than these because of the premium of parts you could never have in any mass produced company.

Hi,
Those are top dogs sadly lower muts are not as brilliant but keeping in mind cosair doesn't make them so who does since you know so much about them ? seasonic/ super flower/ .. ?

Count von Schwalbe · Jan 14, 2023

Shrek said:
How do you get to construct the main high frequency transformer correctly? as I understand it tends not to generic but rather very particular to a supply.

You could use a generic 120-12VAC transformer and a multiplicity of caps and chokes...

Not sure how reliable and safe that would be though.

P4-630 · Jan 14, 2023

Count von Schwalbe said:
You could use a generic 120-12VAC transformer and a multiplicity of caps and chokes...

Not sure how reliable and safe that would be though.

I Love

Shrek · Jan 14, 2023

Count von Schwalbe said:
You could use a generic 120-12VAC transformer and a multiplicity of caps and chokes...

Not sure how reliable and safe that would be though.

A linear power supply, like the good old days; very stable (reliable and safe) and not suffering from high frequency noise; but heavy, expensive and inefficient.

Switched mode power supplies were developed for the minuteman missile and not by Apple as Steve Jobs liked to claim. I believe the idea was also around before transistors.
Teletype Model 19 Part 4: Thyratron Power Supply - Bing video

Count von Schwalbe · Jan 14, 2023

Shrek said:
stable (reliable and safe)

I meant in terms of low frequency ripple - not sure how a modern VRM would handle that.

Shrek · Jan 14, 2023

I believe the output of a linear supply can be very stable; but the one attached is less than 50% efficient.

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Which PSU maker is the most reliable?

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