Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

johnspack · Mar 9, 2023

Well crap... now I have to give a warning.... unless you have a superb imc, and possibly a trx40 mobo, don't run all 8 at 3200. It was working, but
ended up causing some data corruption... Ended up on a fresh windows install and a fresh game server install. And ram back to 3000.
I've seen 2xxx series doing 3200, but it's probably too much for my grandaddy tr.... still doesn't suck though.

Mussels · Mar 10, 2023

AusWolf said:
Interesting, considering that dual channel is reported as 4x 32-bit on DDR5 now (2x 64-bit on DDR1-4, I'm guessing).

Don't expect me to do math when i'm tired, CPU-Z just loves to change how it reports things and I cant keep up with what's what at times

johnspack said:
Well crap... now I have to give a warning.... unless you have a superb imc, and possibly a trx40 mobo, don't run all 8 at 3200. It was working, but
ended up causing some data corruption... Ended up on a fresh windows install and a fresh game server install. And ram back to 3000.
I've seen 2xxx series doing 3200, but it's probably too much for my grandaddy tr.... still doesn't suck though.

Damn, data corruption is uncommon
At least you know to make external backups next attempt

Oh this is great: UserBench is at it again

trparky · Mar 10, 2023

OK seriously, are the people at Userbench getting paid by Intel to shill for them? Because damn man, that's some seriously hard shilling there.

Kodehawa · Mar 10, 2023

Mussels said:
Oh this is great: UserBench is at it again

This was the funniest thing I've seen this week.

Mussels · Mar 10, 2023

trparky said:
OK seriously, are the people at Userbench getting paid by Intel to shill for them? Because damn man, that's some seriously hard shilling there.

The site has affiliate links, the website is it's own shill

trparky · Mar 10, 2023

Mussels said:
The site has affiliate links, the website is it's own shill

Please tell me that people know that about that site.

Count von Schwalbe · Mar 10, 2023

Now that Arc is out, I wonder if LuserBenchMark is still shilling for Nvidia? Or maybe they just had something against AMD...

Mussels · Mar 14, 2023

Count von Schwalbe said:
Now that Arc is out, I wonder if LuserBenchMark is still shilling for Nvidia? Or maybe they just had something against AMD...

They shill for the profit margin of their links - and the owners insanity

trparky · Mar 14, 2023

So, if they shill for Intel, how would they react to an nVidia vs Intel ARC situation? Would they continue to shill for nVidia? Or will they flip sides to Intel? If they do, forget about it... their reputation would be shit then.

johnspack · Mar 15, 2023

Well felt like I was mistreating TR by running windows on it. Realized I can run all my windows stuff under linux....

trparky · Mar 15, 2023

Does anyone have any experience with a piece of software called Fan Control?

AusWolf · Mar 15, 2023

trparky said:
Does anyone have any experience with a piece of software called Fan Control?

I avoid software control as much as possible. Even the best ones can't be as reliable as BIOS settings are.

Wdoox · Mar 16, 2023

Well two months ago I scored 1920x+aorus pro+drp 4 tr4+16gb of memory for 300e(used), and i'm surprised with performance even in 2023.
Currently running at 4050mhz 1.32v and 3333 on ram, everything run's quite fast and snapy,I was able to hit 4.15 with 8cores 16threads and 4.2 with 12cores 12trhreads.
Now with prices of the first and second threadrippers going down(tr4 board's also) I do think that x79 and x99 xeon cpu's are not that good option anymore.

Mussels · Mar 18, 2023

trparky said:
Does anyone have any experience with a piece of software called Fan Control?

I played around with it, had some serious issues controlling my corsair hardware due to weirdness with a plugin at the time - it was added and removed, and needed to source it manually and then unblock a .dll file for security reasosn and.... ugh.

It worked fine for mobo and GPU fan control, but was also overly complicated. I literally want to set a static PWM % per port, no more no less.

Like OpenRGB, i get the feeling it's the type of thing to drastically improve over time with major version bumps.

Veseleil · Mar 18, 2023

Mussels said:
I literally want to set a static PWM % per port, no more no less.

Likewise, and change the RPM manually from time to time. They (Fan Control devs) seem to make it harder for us (not literally), as if everyone needs to link a sensor to a fan port, and have an automatic control.

haps · Mar 18, 2023

Hey,

I really don't know much about memory OC. Only thing I've manually set are 1st five basing timings, trfc, ProcODT, voltages. Any tips to squeeze more stability/performance ? Those on screenshots are settings gaming stable (tens of hours), didn't do stress tests. Unidentified Hynix memory (GOODRAM 16GB 3600MHz CL18 IRDM RGB).

3x0 · Mar 18, 2023

haps said:
Hey,

I really don't know much about memory OC. Only thing I've manually set are 1st five basing timings, trfc, ProcODT, voltages. Any tips to squeeze more stability/performance ? Those on screenshots are settings gaming stable (tens of hours), didn't do stress tests. Unidentified Hynix memory (GOODRAM 16GB 3600MHz CL18 IRDM RGB).

Check this thread, in particular post #5. https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ram-tuning-help-with-subtimings.305364/

Wdoox · Mar 19, 2023

So i'm back to stock stings with my 1920x and my voltages are all over the place, 1.225v for all core and 1.475v for single core boost(hwinfo64).
Is this normal?

freeagent · Mar 19, 2023

Wdoox said:
Is this normal?

Yes.

Wdoox · Mar 19, 2023

freeagent said:
Yes.

O ok,that's a relief.
I just wonder why they put so much voltages for stock setings, when max safe voltage is like 1.425v or something like that.

freeagent · Mar 19, 2023

Wdoox said:
O ok,that's a relief.
I just wonder why they put so much voltages for stock setings, when max safe voltage is like 1.425v or something like that.

On desktop parts they give 1.5v

The voltage is needed to push the single core clocks so far, there is no amps behind it because AMD is controlling the voltage there. If you were to give 1.425v, the CPU would then be getting the full voltage, along with the current to go with it which makes for a toasty situation depending on the workload.

Wdoox · Mar 19, 2023

freeagent said:
On desktop parts they give 1.5v

The voltage is needed to push the single core clocks so far, there is no amps behind it because AMD is controlling the voltage there. If you were to give 1.425v, the CPU would then be getting the full voltage, along with the current to go with it which makes for a toasty situation depending on the workload.

1.5v on desktop parts....holy crap!

Mussels · Mar 21, 2023

Wdoox said:
1.5v on desktop parts....holy crap!

you're misunderstanding things based on how old hardware worked - voltage is the part we control, but amperage is the actual problem

1.5v for a single core is nothing, but for 16 cores? that's going to use a TON more power and run all power control hardware on the board and CPU much, much hotter

R-T-B · Mar 26, 2023

Hello all.

I just ordered my yearly platform upgrade. It'll be here in about a week. 7950x and Aorus Elite X670 board. 64GB of G.Skill ram across two sticks for the IMCs benefit, was on sale at the time. This stuff:

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-288-Pin-CL36-36-36-89-Channel-F5-5600J3636D32GX2-FX5/dp/B0BJNKNX6M?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3TOECTKC4OEBD

Wondering what pitfalls I may want to watch out for with the latest AGESA, or is it mostly smooth sailing now?

AusWolf · Mar 26, 2023

R-T-B said:
Hello all.

I just ordered my yearly platform upgrade. It'll be here in about a week. 7950x and Aorus Elite X670 board. 64GB of G.Skill ram across two sticks for the IMCs benefit, was on sale at the time. This stuff:

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-288-Pin-CL36-36-36-89-Channel-F5-5600J3636D32GX2-FX5/dp/B0BJNKNX6M?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3TOECTKC4OEBD

Wondering what pitfalls I may want to watch out for with the latest AGESA, or is it mostly smooth sailing now?

Congrats!

The pitfalls mostly depend on your specific board, in my opinion. I'm still on AGESA 1.0.0.4 with mine, and I don't dare to update. Don't fix what isn't broken as they say.

The factory BIOS with the first AGESA was a mess, though, so definitely update it as soon as you put the system together.

The only weirdness I'm experiencing now is when I first enable EXPO, the board decides to match the SOC voltage to the DRAM voltage which is way too high at 1.35 V. Then, when I manually lower it to 1.1 V, boot up once, then go back to the BIOS to set it back to Auto, it magically settles at 1.2 V, which is just fine. Also, the "RAM context restore" (or whatever it's called) option that's supposed to give you quick boot times is still broken on 1.0.0.4, and I'm not sure if it's been fixed since. My system doesn't boot at all if I enable it. Disabling it is not a problem, an extra 30 seconds doesn't bother me. Other than these, smooth sailing.

System Name	System2 Blacknet , System1 Blacknet2
Processor	System2 Threadripper 1920x, System1 2699 v3
Motherboard	System2 Asrock Fatality x399 Professional Gaming, System1 Asus X99-A
Cooling	System2 Noctua NH-U14 TR4-SP3 Dual 140mm fans, System1 AIO
Memory	System2 64GBS DDR4 3000, System1 32gbs DDR4 2400
Video Card(s)	System2 GTX 980Ti System1 GTX 970
Storage	System2 4x SSDs + NVme= 2.250TB 2xStorage Drives=8TB System1 3x SSDs=2TB
Display(s)	1x27" 1440 display 1x 24" 1080 display
Case	System2 Some Nzxt case with soundproofing...
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar U7 MKII
Power Supply	System2 EVGA 750 Watt, System1 XFX XTR 750 Watt
Mouse	Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum
Keyboard	Ducky
Software	Archlinux, Manjaro, Win11 Ent 24h2
Benchmark Scores	It's linux baby!

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	My Ryzen 7 7700X Super Computer
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
Motherboard	Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling	DeepCool AK620 with Arctic Silver 5
Memory	2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 EXPO (CL30)
Video Card(s)	XFX AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE
Storage	Samsung 980 EVO 1 TB NVMe SSD (System Drive), Samsung 970 EVO 500 GB NVMe SSD (Game Drive)
Display(s)	Acer Nitro XV272U (DisplayPort) and Acer Nitro XV270U (DisplayPort)
Case	Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH C
Audio Device(s)	On-Board Sound / Sony WH-XB910N Bluetooth Headphones
Power Supply	MSI A850GF
Mouse	Logitech M705
Keyboard	Steelseries
Software	Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Benchmark Scores	https://valid.x86.fr/liwjs3

System Name	Shinano
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard	ROG Strix B550-F GAMING WIFI II
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE
Memory	32GB DDR4 3200MHz
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 6700 10GB
Storage	970 EVO Plus 1TB \| A1000 480GB
Display(s)	Lenovo G27q-20 (1440p, 165Hz)
Case	NZXT H510
Audio Device(s)	Sony WH-1000XM4 \| Edifier R1000T4
Power Supply	SuperFlower Leadex Gold III 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305
Keyboard	IK75 v3 (QMK) \| HyperX Alloy Origins

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	Work Computer \| Unfinished Computer
Processor	Core i7-6700 \| Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard	Dell Q170 \| Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi
Cooling	A fan? \| Truly Custom Loop
Memory	4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 \| 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26
Video Card(s)	Dell Radeon R7 450 \| RTX 2080 Ti FE
Storage	Crucial BX500 2TB \| TBD
Display(s)	3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 \| TBD
Case	Dell \| Heavily Modified Phanteks P400
Power Supply	Dell TFX Non-standard \| EVGA BQ 650W
Mouse	Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse\| TBD

Processor	Various Intel and AMD CPUs
Motherboard	Micro-ATX and mini-ITX
Cooling	Yes
Memory	Anything from 4 to 48 GB
Video Card(s)	Various Nvidia and AMD GPUs
Storage	A lot
Display(s)	Monitors and TVs
Case	The smaller the better
Audio Device(s)	Speakers and headphones
Power Supply	300 to 750 W, bronze to gold
Mouse	Wireless
Keyboard	Wired
VR HMD	Not yet
Software	Mainly Linux, little bit of Windows 10

System Name	Purple Haze \| Vacuum Box
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D (-30 CO) \| Intel® Xeon® E3-1241 v3
Motherboard	MSI B450 Tomahawk Max \| Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H
Cooling	Dark Rock 4 Pro, P14, P12, T30 case fans \| 212 Evo & P12 PWM PST x2, Arctic P14 & P12 case fans
Memory	32GB Ballistix (Micron E 19nm) CL16 @3733MHz \| 32GB HyperX Beast 2400MHz (XMP)
Video Card(s)	AMD 6900XTXH ASRock OC Formula & Phanteks T30x3 \| AMD 5700XT Sapphire Nitro+ & Arctic P12x2
Storage	ADATA SX8200 Pro 1TB, Toshiba P300 3TB x2 \| Kingston A400 120GB, Fanxiang S500 Pro 256GB
Display(s)	TCL C805 50" 2160p 144Hz VA miniLED, Mi 27" 1440p 165Hz IPS, AOC 24G2U 1080p 144Hz IPS
Case	Modded MS Industrial Titan II Pro RGB \| Heavily Modded Cooler Master Q500L
Audio Device(s)	Audient iD14 MKII, Adam Audio T8Vs, Bloody M550, HiFiMan HE400se, Tascam TM-80, DS4 v2
Power Supply	Rosewill Capstone 1000M \| Enermax Revolution X't 730W (both with P14 fans)
Mouse	Logitech G305, Bloody A91, Amazon basics, Logitech M187
Keyboard	Redragon K530, Bloody B930, Epomaker TH80 SE, BTC 9110
Software	W10LTSC 21H2, PBO2, FF, MusicBee, mpv, ImageGlass, OpenRGB, FanControl, Greenshot, DS4Win, Signal

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard	MSI MPG B550I Gaming Edge Wi-Fi ITX
Cooling	Scythe Fuma 2 rev. B Noctua NF-A12x25 Edition
Memory	2x16GiB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4 3200Mb/s CL14 F4-3200C14D-32GTZKW
Video Card(s)	PowerColor Radeon RX7800 XT Hellhound 16GiB
Storage	Western Digital Black SN850 WDS100T1X0E-00AFY0 1TiB, Western Digital Blue 3D WDS200T2B0A 2TiB
Display(s)	Dell G2724D 27" IPS 1440P 165Hz, ASUS VG259QM 25” IPS 1080P 240Hz
Case	Cooler Master NR200P ITX
Audio Device(s)	Altec Lansing 220, HyperX Cloud II
Power Supply	Corsair SF750 Platinum 750W SFX
Mouse	Lamzu Atlantis Mini Wireless
Keyboard	HyperX Alloy Origins Aqua

Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Cooling	Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1
Memory	2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14
Video Card(s)	Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC
Storage	WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB
Display(s)	LG 50UP7100
Case	Fractal Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	JBL Bar 700
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Oculus 3
Software	Yes
Benchmark Scores	Yes

System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen R9 9950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	Intel 5800X Optane 800GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s)	TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024

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