Sold 12500 and 3080ti what now?

[R33mba]

I need some input of people smarter than me.. Due to making too much heat around me while gaming ,I finally manage to sold my 3080ti fe, I was planning to buy 4070ti or 7900xt, but then I went on some www that calculate bottleneck and realized that my i5 12500 cpu is bottle neck so I sold it also . I was planing to buy 13600k but again I realized that my gigabyte b660 ds3h is too weak (gets too hot with more demanding cpus) and I must sell it also.. So i have left with eSports artic cooler duo and 16gb of ddr4..

So What should I do now ? Go for some better b660 or z690 mbo (I wouldn't wanna go over 200e) and keep my ram.. Sell everything and buy some b760/z790 mbo and ddr5? Switch to ryzen and am5?? ( I was looking at ryzen 7700 but he is like 10% bottleneck also..).
I dont wanna go over 600e for mbo,cpu,and ram if I'm going with ddr5..

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Unless you're gaming at 1080p none of the cpu you have listed should bottlenecked a 7900XT or weaker gpu.

All modern high end gpus use 300+ watts so heat output isn't going to be much different than your 3080ti was which can easily be dropped to less than 350w without losing much perfomance to begin with mine I power limit to 85% for a imperceptible difference in performance without RTSS running.

My 4090 can be limited to about 300-330w for about a 5% performance loss not sure how the 4070ti/7900XT scales

Might consider a 7800X3D pretty sure it'll probably use around 60-70w while gaming and a power limited ada gpu but not the 4070ti as it's more of a sidegrade vs the 3080ti you sold and at least in it's stock configuration almost uses the same amount of power as the 4080.

Your system was already pretty solid with a few tweaks it likely would have been fine as is at most maybe a 13600k upgrade which for gaming should have been fine even with your board assuming good airflow with a decent ambient temp.

 

[N/A]

13700K and 4080 Ti at least. But i doubt this cooler can dissipate more than 200 watts if the cpu is concave or uneven surfaced and with socked retention replacement to prevent the bending. Too complicated. So you're stuck with 100% bottleneck for a while unless you are ok with a side grade or paying a lot more to get very little improvement. If 350 watts is too much heat you are left with rtx 4070 non Ti the Ti being 285 watts is not that much different than 3080 Ti. I'm not smarter though.

 

[maxx2575]

I'd say just get yourself a ryzen 7 5700X or 7700, motherboard doesn't really matter. gpu I say go for something amd and just undervolt it and/or power limit it. and if all else fails just open a window.

 

[dgianstefani]

13600K/700K
4080
ASUS/MSI Z790/B760
32 GB B die tuned to 3800/14, any 3200/14 kit will do this with voltage.
Or
Expensive 7200+ D5 and mobo.

If heat is a concern get better PSU/case fans.

Check our reviews.

 

[Ruru]

7800X3D & 7900 XT or XTX would be my takes on your situation.

 

[N/A]

7800X3D & 7900 XT or XTX would be my takes on your situation.

However MB CPU and RAM for 600e. that's the CPU alone.

 

[dgianstefani]

7800X3D & 7900 XT or XTX would be my takes on your situation.

Literally less efficient in idle and load. OP asked for efficiency due to heat. 4080 is the most efficient GPU.

 

[Ruru]

Literally less efficient in idle and load. OP asked for efficiency due to heat. 4080 is the most efficient GPU.

Ah, good point there. Though Nvidia cards are pretty bad power-hogs as well, efficiency has been gone after Pascal :/

I had a 1080 Ti before and that was a true gem what came to efficiency.

 

[dgianstefani]

Ah, good point there. Though Nvidia cards are pretty bad power-hogs as well, efficiency has been gone after Pascal :/

I had a 1080 Ti before and that was a true gem what came to efficiency.

Not true.

4080 is significantly more efficient than 1080 Ti.

 

[Ruru]

Not true.

4080 is significantly more efficient than 1080 Ti.

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Ah, my point was that it still is on the same level as 7900 XT for example.

 

[N/A]

4080 and 13700K mkaay and you are set until arrow lake. Just get more 64GB DDR, it's cheap now. and it could last you forever.

I'm simply impressed how 4080 is 30% more expensive than 4070 Ti now. Might be worth it.

 

[dgianstefani]

Ah, my point was that it still is on the same level as 7900 XT for example.

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Power consumption and efficiency are not the same thing.

 

[Ruru]

Power consumption and efficiency are not the same thing.

I know... I'll leave this thread as I'm somewhat wrong here. my bad.

 

[P4-630]

600 Euros isn't much for a new good CPU/Motherboard/RAM....
A i5 13600K is already around 330 EUR... A better motherboard 300(+) EUR..

 

[N/A]

Don't fall for the hexa core, octa core FTW. Keep the motherboard, although those upper mosfets are naked. What other motherboard has 3 slots that are 16x, you could add NVMe even if it is only 1x wired.

And yes it could blow up, but games are 125 watts tops if you aim at that. limit it to 125 Watts in the bios still hitting 5Ghz all day.

 

[sirAIfred]

Hey there! It depends on your budget and how much of an upgrade you are looking for. If you want to stick with Intel, upgrading to a better B660 or Z690 motherboard and keeping your current RAM may be a good option. However, if you want to future-proof your system, switching to Ryzen and AM5 may be worth considering. Keep in mind that upgrading to DDR5 RAM will likely require a new motherboard and CPU. It's up to you to weigh the costs and benefits and decide what will work best for your needs and budget.

Don't fall for the hexa core, octa core FTW. Keep the motherboard, although those upper mosfets are naked. What other motherboard has 3 slots that are 16x, you could add NVMe even if it is only 1x wired.

It's important to consider his budget. Upgrading to a better motherboard with more robust power delivery and cooling may help get more out of the current CPU, but it may not be worth the investment if he plans on upgrading to a higher-end CPU in the near future.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Get an ipad for web and a console for gaming because all pc gaming get warm.
Otherwise get a better a/c

 

[nomdeplume]

I know... I'll leave this thread as I'm somewhat wrong here. my bad.

Call it making a deeper point likely to be missed. Efficient use of kW/€ which should also result in less heat is twice as relevant to the stated desires.

 

[dgianstefani]

Call it making a deeper point likely to be missed. Efficient use of kW/€ which should also result in less heat is twice as relevant to the stated desires.

A 4080 running framelimited to three below monitor refresh rate (which is what you should do by default, not for efficiency but for IQ) is very low in energy cost. Just because it can push hundreds of FPS at 4K while drawing 300 or so watts and still being the most efficient GPU in existence, doesn't mean it can't also push 117 or 237 fps on a 1440p monitor while using around 150 - 200 W.

I guess people think everyone runs around with synthetic loads or running uncapped FPS 100% load in everything all the time.

 

[freeagent]

Hi,
Get an ipad for web and a console for gaming because all pc gaming get warm.
Otherwise get a better a/c

A Torrent should fix that

 

[Lew Zealand]

You can choose to maximize efficiency and heat output on all mid to hi tier GPUs by frequency or power limiting all of them. If you're looking to output a certain maximum amount of heat (say, 150W), it seems that you can buy a card with 1.5-2X your target power limit (220-300W) and then undervolt/clock it to hit that power wattage use while maintaining a lot of performance. Starting with the most efficient card in that range (4070 Ti) and then undervolting and power limiting it (or VSyncing it to a reasonable framerate for you) should get you a maximally efficient GPU experience.

I just tested this with my 6800XT last night and yeah at 2500MHz it draws 308W but at 2100MHz it draws 166W. Stock is 2400MHz at 253W. Using 53.9% of max watts for 87.2% of max frames seems a good tradeoff if heat output per performance is the primary concern. The 4070 Ti should work similarly here.

 

[nomdeplume]

A 4080 running framelimited to three below monitor refresh rate (which is what you should do by default, not for efficiency but for IQ) is very low in energy cost. Just because it can push hundreds of FPS at 4K while drawing 300 or so watts and still being the most efficient GPU in existence, doesn't mean it can't also push 117 or 237 fps on a 1440p monitor while using around 150 - 200 W.

I guess people think everyone runs around with synthetic loads or running uncapped FPS 100% load in everything all the time.

Nobody here more than yourselves (TPU staff) should be more aware of the double/triple/???? negatives associated with recent generations of hardware. In the midst of vast energy concerns and shortages within the larger electronics industry there is suddenly massive out of the box gluttony for power consumption. There are of course limits to how far you can push lowered values and consumer trust.

I think everyone is fairly solid that OP could've used the advice in this thread before selling their old hardware. To at least partially offset the negatives and confusion over negative values required to make the components a stable and livable whole.

(I hope this stayed on topic enough to avoid detouring into being viewed as an attack. ThrashZone was making a solid point to the OP and others in my opinion)

Edit: This felt like it came up short at the end. I have no problem with the site staff or what was being presented. My responses were only intended to reinforce ability to maintain a consumer perspective without need to argue it.

 

[dgianstefani]

Nobody here more than yourselves (TPU staff) should be more aware of the double/triple/???? negatives associated with recent generations of hardware. In the midst of vast energy concerns and shortages within the larger electronics industry there is suddenly massive out of the box gluttony for power consumption. There are of course limits to how far you can push lowered values and consumer trust.

I think everyone is fairly solid that OP could've used the advice in this thread before selling their old hardware. To at least partially offset the negatives and confusion over negative values required to make the components a stable and livable whole.

(I hope this stayed on topic enough to avoid detouring into being viewed as an attack. ThrashZone was making a solid point to the OP and others in my opinion)

Current gpu generations from both AMD and NVIDIA are significantly more efficient while also having lower on average power draw than previous generations. People just like to complain.

 

[R33mba]

90% of you didn't understand my problem...
For Gpu I'm going with 99% probably with 7900xt (because 12gb of vram on 4070ti offends me)..

Lets make it easier.. I only have 4070ti/7900xt Gpu
and 16gb ddr4 3200mhz.. can sell that..
And maxx 600e to spend...
1440p Monitor


((((
So when I visit PC builds. com and enter calculator anything below ryzen 7700 or intel 13600k Will be more than 10% bottleneck (like for example 5800x3d..).. And I was planing to go with cheaper rute ryzen 7600..
So now due to bottleneck I must sell my mbo also because its too weak for 13600k witch is cheapest possible intel upgrade, or Switch to ryzen again..

In fact as I realized for now I have 2 option new z 690/790 mbo and 13600k and possible ram (upgrade if I go with z790.)

Or Ryzen 7700 cpu and mbo/ddr5..

How ever I choose that will cost me 530e just for mobo and cpu...And its possible that I will have to change my cooler also artic duo e sports 34
))))

ps
My 3080ti was hitting 104c vram temps and that was problem,not her power draw(i used to mine with it so I know how to limit power draw,and she was still making heat like oven..)