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You mean that I haven't already detailed elsewhere in this thread? A few. Most are easily uninstalled, but some take more effort.Any specific examples?
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You mean that I haven't already detailed elsewhere in this thread? A few. Most are easily uninstalled, but some take more effort.Any specific examples?
Processor | 7800x3d |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte B650 Auros Elite AX |
Cooling | Custom Water |
Memory | GSKILL 2x16gb 6000mhz Cas 30 with custom timings |
Video Card(s) | MSI RX 6750 XT MECH 2X 12G OC |
Storage | Adata SX8200 1tb with Windows, Samsung 990 Pro 2tb with games |
Display(s) | HP Omen 27q QHD 165hz |
Case | ThermalTake P3 |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex Titanium |
Software | Windows 11 64 Bit |
Benchmark Scores | CB23: 1811 / 19424 CB24: 1136 / 7687 |
I used to do fresh installs annually with Vista and W7. This feels different. Windows 8 and 10 never made me feel like I needed to do a fresh install. The reset feature was a godsend.any fresh install fells snappier, it was has been like that... it also makes sense in every way
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
I'll agree with lex on this - great OS, easy to install, un-needed bloatAny specific examples?
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
I'll agree with lex on this - great OS, easy to install, un-needed bloat
1. The OS install is stupidly easy compared to XP or 7.
2. The ability to do offline vs online accounts is present, but annoying
3. Once you're online, it grabs everything it could possibly need from the internet (drivers etc) better than any prior OS
4. Then it downloads some stupid bloatware like the weather app, online search bars, teams, and apparently chatGPT now
The main problem is theres no simple opt out, you need to disable and uninstall each one manually - as the tools and scripts to do it for you almost always go overboard (removing the windows store entirely is a terrible idea if you play games from there)
It's not a nightmare situation because it's entirely within any users power to do these things - but its a PITA for multiple machines, for the things that don't sync account based (Like i ditch one drive, but new installs always add it back and instantly start syncing things i dont want synced)
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
I'm still using old AF keys from 7 and 8, i havent paid for windows in a long long time
Some of the telemetry is needed, to keep on track of antivirus
Some is... intermediate, where they use it to help focus on fixing problems or commonly used features (location -> weather widget)
So far no real signs they're using telemetry to harvest personal data, give you ads etc
They're adding things in they think the business world wants, but giving it to home users. That's the mistake.
Processor | 7800x3d |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte B650 Auros Elite AX |
Cooling | Custom Water |
Memory | GSKILL 2x16gb 6000mhz Cas 30 with custom timings |
Video Card(s) | MSI RX 6750 XT MECH 2X 12G OC |
Storage | Adata SX8200 1tb with Windows, Samsung 990 Pro 2tb with games |
Display(s) | HP Omen 27q QHD 165hz |
Case | ThermalTake P3 |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex Titanium |
Software | Windows 11 64 Bit |
Benchmark Scores | CB23: 1811 / 19424 CB24: 1136 / 7687 |
Unfortunately, I have not read all 169 pages of this thread. I can use the search function though. Thanks for letting me know where to look.You mean that I haven't already detailed elsewhere in this thread? A few. Most are easily uninstalled, but some take more effort.
You know that public corporations like this have their financials available for anyone to read, if you can get past the accounting jargon, right? This reminds me of people who clamor to audit the US Pentagon or Federal Reserve and ignore the multiple audits those organizations have had over the last two decades. Even back in XP, Vista, and 7 days Microsoft had an open policy of encouraging people to pirate Windows because they would rather people use pirated windows than another OS. To this day Microsoft makes it absurdly easy to go 6 months or more without activating Windows.Call me sceptical but i doubt they are a non profit now
They are making more profit than ever, including the windows division. How do they charge less and make more money? i think the answer is obvious
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
Unfortunately, I have not read all 169 pages of this thread. I can use the search function though. Thanks for letting me know where to look.
You know that public corporations like this have their financials available for anyone to read, if you can get past the accounting jargon, right? This reminds me of people who clamor to audit the US Pentagon or Federal Reserve and ignore the multiple audits those organizations have had over the last two decades. Even back in XP, Vista, and 7 days Microsoft had an open policy of encouraging people to pirate Windows because they would rather people use pirated windows than another OS. To this day Microsoft makes it absurdly easy to go 6 months or more without activating Windows.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
I mean it's way too easy to be a cynic if your criteria is "one audit was bad so can't trust any at all," yeah.List of audited companies that were scams, massive frauds, for years. I can start with one of the most famous, you can complete with all the others. After all, every scam/fraud of big listed companies were audited by some gigantic reputable auditing firm:
-Enron
-...
i don't understand what that has to do with how they get their money. Facebook was selling customers data and they obviously didn't create a line in the accounting "selling customer data to Cambridge analytica", it will obviously be something innocuous
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
I mean it's way too easy to be a cynic if your criteria is "one audit was bad so can't trust any at all," yeah.
btw, audits are what caught enron.
System Name | Lynni PS \ Lenowo TwinkPad L14 G2 |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Raphael \ i5-1135G7 Tiger Lake-U |
Motherboard | ASRock B650M PG Riptide Bios v. 2.02 AMD AGESA 1.1.0.0 \ Lenowo BDPLANAR Bios 1.68 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 Chromax.Black (Only middle fan) \ Lenowo C-267C-2 |
Memory | G.Skill Flare X5 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHZ CL36-36-36-96 AMD EXPO \ Willk Elektronik 2x16GB 2666MHZ CL17 |
Video Card(s) | Asus GeForce RTX™ 4070 Dual OC GPU: 2325-2355 MEM: 1462| Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics |
Storage | Gigabyte M30 1TB|Sabrent Rocket 2TB| HDD: 10TB|1TB \ WD RED SN700 1TB |
Display(s) | LG UltraGear 27GP850-B 1440p@165Hz | LG 48CX OLED 4K HDR | Innolux 14" 1080p |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 White Mesh | Lenowo L14 G2 chassis |
Audio Device(s) | Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless |
Power Supply | Be Quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750W Goldie | 65W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeedy Wireless | Lenowo TouchPad & Logitech G305 |
Keyboard | Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize | L14 G2 UK Lumi |
Software | Win11 Pro 23H2 UK | Win11 LTSC UK / Arch (Fan) |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMARK: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/89434432? GPU-Z: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/v3zbr |
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
Has anyone tried AtlasOS or ReviOS? (Know that AtlasOS 11 ain't out yet)
These you don't need to download a modded ISO but you can install them directly onto a fresh installed Windows OS.
AtlastOS: https://atlasos.net/
ReviOS: https://www.revi.cc/
Sorry, it's just that such a list is a long one and keeps changing. It's best to just remove what you don't want on your system and if you have trouble come ask about it.Unfortunately, I have not read all 169 pages of this thread. I can use the search function though. Thanks for letting me know where to look.![]()
Processor | Intel i5 8400 |
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Motherboard | Asus Prime H370M-Plus/CSM |
Cooling | Scythe Big Shuriken & Noctua NF-A15 HS-PWM chromax.black.swap |
Memory | 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT DDR4-2400 |
Video Card(s) | ROG-STRIX-GTX1060-O6G-GAMING |
Storage | 1TB 980 Pro |
Display(s) | Samsung UN55KU6300F |
Case | Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 3 |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III 750w |
Software | W11 Pro |
Let's be honest, the following...
...is what most people see.
For anything 16GB and above, more than 4096MB pagefile is a waste of space. My general methodology and school of thought is as follows:
System RAM = 8GB -> 12GB : 4096MB Pagefile.
System RAM = 12GB -> 16GB : 3072MB Pagefile.
System RAM = 16GB -> 32GB : 2048MB Pagefile.
System RAM = 32GB -> 64GB+ : 1024MB
IF System RAM heavy programs are being used and the pagefile keeps getting hit(very rare), I'll increase the pagefile by 1024MB steps
until utilization drops below 75%. More RAM will then be installed as soon as is possible and the settings with then be adjusted back down.
If the primary OS drive is an HDD, a defrag operation will be run manually. If the drive is an SSD, no further action is taken.
Well for starters, it does greatly depend on what you're doing. More intensive programs will naturally need more resources. RAM is cheap right now, get more and set your pagefile. See what happens. The only way to know is to give it a go.I'm still stuck on this point even after discussing it with one of the mods. The above seems to align with my experience but until recently I never pushed up against the mechanisms in play.
My PF keeps inflating further and further up beyond double amount of RAM I have installed during gaming - set on auto. I deeply want to believe quadrupling system memory will have the effect of bringing it down to your stated 1024MB - 2048MB so I can move on to worrying about other things than premature wear to OS (SSD) drive from being hit so heavily for hours at a time.
System Name | KLM |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | B-650E-E Strix |
Cooling | Arctic Cooling III 280 |
Memory | 16x2 Fury Renegade 6000-32 |
Video Card(s) | 4070-ti PNY |
Storage | 512+512+1+2+2+2+2+6+500+256+4+4+4 |
Display(s) | VA 32" 4K@60 - OLED 27" 2K@240 |
Case | 4000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Edifier 1280Ts |
Power Supply | Shift 1000 |
Mouse | 502 Hero |
Keyboard | K68 |
Software | EMDB |
Benchmark Scores | 0>1000 |
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
I think the culprit posts here.How about services failing if disabled for Win 11, will we find the culprist ?
A service can't fail if it never starts due to being disabled.How about services failing if disabled for Win 11, will we find the culprist ?
System Name | KLM |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | B-650E-E Strix |
Cooling | Arctic Cooling III 280 |
Memory | 16x2 Fury Renegade 6000-32 |
Video Card(s) | 4070-ti PNY |
Storage | 512+512+1+2+2+2+2+6+500+256+4+4+4 |
Display(s) | VA 32" 4K@60 - OLED 27" 2K@240 |
Case | 4000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Edifier 1280Ts |
Power Supply | Shift 1000 |
Mouse | 502 Hero |
Keyboard | K68 |
Software | EMDB |
Benchmark Scores | 0>1000 |
A service can't fail if it never starts due to being disabled.
No worries.Yes, but i it was badly phrased, sorry
Yes, true. I'm still sorting through your list. It's taking a while because testing is a slow process.Windows 11 fails if one of this services i listed is disabled... and Win 10 doesn't reacts like that with same services disabled.
System Name | KHR-1 |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5900X |
Motherboard | ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40) |
Memory | 32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 6750 XT |
Storage | Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD |
Display(s) | Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup) |
Case | Corsair 275R |
Audio Device(s) | Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers |
Power Supply | eVGA Supernova G3 750W |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro (Hero) |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2 |
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
System Name | KLM |
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Processor | 7800X3D |
Motherboard | B-650E-E Strix |
Cooling | Arctic Cooling III 280 |
Memory | 16x2 Fury Renegade 6000-32 |
Video Card(s) | 4070-ti PNY |
Storage | 512+512+1+2+2+2+2+6+500+256+4+4+4 |
Display(s) | VA 32" 4K@60 - OLED 27" 2K@240 |
Case | 4000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Edifier 1280Ts |
Power Supply | Shift 1000 |
Mouse | 502 Hero |
Keyboard | K68 |
Software | EMDB |
Benchmark Scores | 0>1000 |
EA seems to be guilt shaming us from not upgrading to W11. I guess everyone is doing his part![]()
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
Windows 95/98 = OLD
Millelium = BAD
XP = GOOD
Vista = BAD
Seven = GOOD
Ten = GOOD
Eleven = BAD
Twelve = ?
Eleven looks like fork of Ten, Twelve could be good.
System Name | BoX-Server | 775PC |
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Processor | I3 3.5GHZ (3150) | Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60) |
Motherboard | ASRock B85M-ITX | ASUS P5Q-EM |
Cooling | OEZM HSK | 120MM Heatsink (2-FANs) |
Memory | 8GB DDR3 (2x4GB) | 8GB DDR2 (4x2GB) |
Video Card(s) | Onboard | NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB |
Storage | 120GB SSD 1TB WD | 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD << |
Display(s) | DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 | ASUS 24" LCD IPS |
Case | CoolerMaster 110 | DIYPC N1e-SPORT |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | EVGA 550WATT | Rosewill 530WATT |
Mouse | Input-Director| RoseWill FUSION C40 |
Keyboard | Input-Director | RoseWill FUSION |
Software | WiN10ET/WiN11ET |
LMAOyou can't play this game because you didn't upgrade the OS