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[tabascosauz]

I am on the latest bios and don't have curve curve Optimizer either

On 4602? Have you checked both AI Tweaker and AMD OC menu locations?

That's a bit strange as most if not all other Asus boards have received PBO so that BIOS modding is no longer needed. Reous seems to have BIOS mods for all ROG/Strix/TUF boards........except X570 TUF, strangely. You could reach out to him on OCN and ask if he has made any. Maybe there's a link in there somewhere for the X570 TUF - I can't read German.

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In the meantime, just use the ol' PBO2 Tuner at startup trick.

How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner/README.md at main · PrimeO7/How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner

Get the Most out of your 5800X3D using PBO Curve Optimizer! - PrimeO7/How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner

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[Athlonite]

Not necessarily - the question, as I understand, is whether you're actually getting those insane VSoC numbers after sleep, or if it's just the motherboard/software reporting that's bugged.

One would have to presume it's just a bugged reading otherwise we'd see a whole lot of people pissing n moaning about their CPU's dying while waking from sleep mode I haven't seen any tech tubers like der8auer, Jaz2c, GN or LTT making any noise about it either

 

[Mussels]

I am on the latest bios and don't have curve curve Optimizer either

on 1.2.0.8 you definitely should, make sure you load optimised defaults after changing CPU's or updating the BIOS

One would have to presume it's just a bugged reading otherwise we'd see a whole lot of people pissing n moaning about their CPU's dying while waking from sleep mode I haven't seen any tech tubers like der8auer, Jaz2c, GN or LTT making any noise about it either

It was hardware measured - thats not a bugged reading.

To test these things you need to have CPU's and motherboards on hand to destroy - that takes time and money, the board died giving those readings when they just wanted to measure accuracy.

 

[Ruru]

My buddy is offering a 5800X3D for 300EUR, should I get it?

 

[AusWolf]

My buddy is offering a 5800X3D for 300EUR, should I get it?

If he could drop the price a bit, I would.

 

[Ruru]

If he could drop the price a bit, I would.

I have to ask that would it be 300EUR including postage costs

 

[3x0]

hardware probed, software read 1.10v while probe said 1.8v

Can you provide a timestamp where Steve showed 1.8v probed?
I've only saw 1.45v max in his video, unless you're reffering to some other video/test.

 

[Mussels]

Can you provide a timestamp where Steve showed 1.8v probed?
I've only saw 1.45v max in his video, unless you're reffering to some other video/test.

Couldnt say now, been so many videos on the issues
It was right at the start in the introduction of one

 

[3x0]

Couldnt say now, been so many videos on the issues
It was right at the start in the introduction of one

I watched/read all of the videos and articles, nowhere did they show 1.8v VSOC probed

 

[Nordic]

On 4602? Have you checked both AI Tweaker and AMD OC menu locations?

on 1.2.0.8 you definitely should, make sure you load optimised defaults after changing CPU's or updating the BIOS

Yep. There is nothing there. It shows up with the 5950x. I did took out the CMOS battery and reset to system defaults, the works.

In the meantime, just use the ol' PBO2 Tuner at startup trick.

How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner/README.md at main · PrimeO7/How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner

Get the Most out of your 5800X3D using PBO Curve Optimizer! - PrimeO7/How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner

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This is working for the time being. Initial testing at -30 CO on all cores is stable. I need to run longer term stability testing with core cycler.

• Stock 5950x - CB23 ST 1593
• OC 5950x - CB23 ST 1648
• Stock 5800x3d - CB23 ST 1460
• -30 CO 5800x3d - CB ST 1482

-30 CO dropped CPU power by 5w and max CPU temp by 5w. Those are significantly lower single threaded scores for the 5800x3d.

 

[trparky]

I've been able to get my SoC voltage down to 1.2v and despite Gigabyte's warning about how after updating to BIOS version F5c that some RAM kits with EXPO enabled might not work, my memory kit is running just fine with EXPO enabled.

CPU VDDR_SOC is 1.2v and VCORE SoC maximum voltage according to HWInfo is 1.248v.

 

[tabascosauz]

VCORE SoC

pick one

Is that the CPU readout from SVI3, or the board HWInfo SOC readout?

 

[trparky]

pick one

Is that the CPU readout from SVI3, or the board HWInfo SOC readout?

VCORE SoC is the name of the setting in BIOS.

Does that make things more clear for you?

 

[tabascosauz]

VCORE SoC is the name of the setting in BIOS.

Fair enough. Your words originally were mixed up.

SVI3 should be the more accurate number, in any case you're chilling at 1.2V

 

[trparky]

Honestly, to this date, I have no idea why the two numbers are so different from each other.

They both have the letters "SoC" in them but hell if I know why the numbers are so different from each other.

 

[tabascosauz]

Honestly, to this date, I have no idea why the two numbers are so different from each other.

SVI3 is the CPU "die sense". Any other Vcore or VSOC under the board sensors block is taken from some point along the VRM or the socket, unless stated otherwise (Crosshair VIII). Trust the CPU sensor.

@Nordic 1482 is fine. CO disproportionately affects the 5800X3D, it is your main source of performance improvement, power reduction, and thermal reduction all in one.

Think reous is on OCN, if you wanna hit him up to ask for a BIOS.

 

[trparky]

SVI3 is the CPU "die sense". Any other Vcore or VSOC under the board sensors block is taken from some point along the VRM or the socket, unless stated otherwise (Crosshair VIII).

So, is the VDDR_SOC number the CPU VCORE SoC number minus whatever voltage resistance that's applied by the traces on the motherboard on the way to the CPU itself?

At least, in my currently buzzed mind of mine, that sentence makes sense.

 

[tabascosauz]

So, is the VDDR_SOC number the CPU VCORE SoC number minus whatever voltage resistance that's applied by the traces on the motherboard on the way to the CPU itself?

At least, in my currently buzzed mind of mine, that sentence makes sense.

It's all VDDCR_VSOC, just call it VSOC. Just taken at different points. If your board's PWM controller is not dumb as a rock (Asus), then it might even give you a third VSOC reading from the VRM.

CPU's SVI3 number is the number you want.

 

[Nordic]

1482 is fine. CO disproportionately affects the 5800X3D, it is your main source of performance improvement, power reduction, and thermal reduction all in one.

Think reous is on OCN, if you wanna hit him up to ask for a BIOS.

I didn't expect it to be so much lower than the 5950x.

I will seek out that bios.

 

[tabascosauz]

I didn't expect it to be so much lower than the 5950x.

I will seek out that bios.

I mean......you could just all-core 4.55 on your 5950X and it'll be about the same. Tiny bit less responsive in day to day use but outside of maybe Photoshop the only other place where ST really matters is gaming, soooo

 

[trparky]

If your board's PWM controller is not dumb as a rock (Asus), then it might even give you a third VSOC reading from the VRM.

I'm going to say that Gigabyte didn't include a third SoC number since I don't see one.

 

[tabascosauz]

I'm going to say that Gigabyte didn't include a third SoC number since I don't see one.

It depends on the PWM controller, and usually shows up in another block of sensors (Loop1, Loop2), one for Vcore and VSOC each.

 

[freeagent]

Its crazy how little power X3D sips.

They should have made it boost to 4600 though

 

[Space Lynx]

My buddy is offering a 5800X3D for 300EUR, should I get it?

i would ask him to come down to 285 eur shipped. its used after all.

 

[freeagent]

I have to ask that would it be 300EUR including postage costs

I'd hit it