NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Founders Edition

[TheinsanegamerN]

Well, my mortgage is paid off and RTX 4090 is less than a 1-week salary, but I'm mindful of the less well-off PC gamers in the PC community and I still remember the "struggle street" situation.

If you're mindful of gen Y/Z, then you should know expensive technology is not a problem. Most older teens or young 20 somethings around here have no problem acquiring the latest $1400 iphones, or leasing cars with 14% interest rates.

They are half the reason things are so pricy now. Utterly irresponsible spending is EVERYWHERE.

Gen Z or late Gen Y entering the housing market is brutal. I entered the housing market in the early 2000s, before the building boom.

I entered the housing market during the tail end of the great recession, and bought my first house at 23. Not living in the hustle and bustle is great. Being responsible also isnt hard, I've seen people who make more then me be flat broke with nothing to show for it. Gaming is, at the end of the day, a luxury, as are things like eating out, owning a new car, buying fancy clothes, and owning the latest technology. But we want it all, and we want it NOW.

RX 7900 XT at $700 is gone.

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Powercolor. Gross. Wouldnt touch them with a 10 foot pole.

In 2016 for 200 money there was 8GB
Where is 16GB?

Inflation is a thing. You're not getting a 16GB GPU for $200 anytime soon.

Also, that was a RX480, which was $229, not 199. $199 was GB. And that was GDDR5, which is much cheaper and was back then, compared to GDDR6 today.

 

[N/A]

The biggest spit in face is that RTX 4060Ti is low end gpu like GTX 1050Ti with 128bit bus for 400€ wtf. Probably cheaper to made than original 60 class gpus.

Cheaper to make with 22900 B transistors I doubt it. The 128 bit PCB itself is cheap, what used to be a single slot card.
But there are thousands of people walking around all day and doing jobs related to that getting done. Even though the thing itself is just a waste of sand.

On average

249€ GTX 1060 is ~ 96% faster than 199€ GTX 960 @2560x1440

1060 is 980 +2 GB
2060 is 1080 -2GB
3060 is 2070 +4GB
4060 is 2080 +0GB in a way 4060 is what 3060 should have been, but wasn't becasue of crypto.
5060 is 4070 +4GB easily. and we are back on track with + 100% gen on gen jump.

 

[Bomby569]

Wow interesting. The 4060 ti does have pretty decent FG performance. Too bad it can't do FG in EVERY title. If it could then it'd be a clear victor for me against the 6700 xt actually and I could see this card not having such negative views.

But still looking on ebay, there's used 6800 xt's and 3080 for $400 so that IS still the best deal I'm seeing. Yet it's used so there is some realm of uncertainty to buying those. I would buy a used card for myself but not as a gift for someone else.

tech yes city did a video touching this too.
But not all games support FG, or support at the same level i think, so it is a bit of an unfair view especially from a buyers perspective, if you happen to prefer a game(s) that isn't supported or don't implement it so great. It also adds some lag i think.
It's a nice bonus but can't be a big review point. I understand reviewers not making it a focus of the review.

but you can't ignore it too

 

[JimmyDoogs]

tech yes city did a video touching this too.
But not all games support FG, or support at the same level i think, so it is a bit of an unfair view especially from a buyers perspective, if you happen to prefer a game(s) that isn't supported or don't implement it so great. It also adds some lag i think.
It's a nice bonus but can't be a big review point. I understand reviewers not making it a focus of the review.

but you can't ignore it too

I buy pretty much every AAA title and I think I've used FG in maybe 5 games. FG is not in Star Wars or Last of Us Part 1. I will say though every time I've used it I notice a decrease in lag and even %1 lows are way better. I highly prefer having it on in EVERY case I've used it in while turning DLSS 2 or AI Upscaling off. But FG is NOT in every game so it's not the defining winner of this tier. For playing Cyberpunk, the Dead Space remake (Or even the aforementioned Harry Potter) it'll beat out the 6750 xt. But playing Last of us or Star Wars? The 6750 XT is the clear winner. Kind of a tough choice between the two. I still say used 6800 xt or 3080 all the way this month.

 

[ValenOne]

Powercolor. Gross. Wouldnt touch them with a 10 foot pole.

The majority of PowerColor cards are manufactured by Foxconn.

Personally, I'm not complaining about the price, but I dislike NVIDIA's mid-range stagnation.

I don't recall PowerColor committing EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3's spikes problems.

 

[JimmyDoogs]

Never heard of any problems with PowerColor cards. I thought they were some of the better AMD cards.

 

[btk2k2]

@W1zzard With more games using texture swapping when they run out of VRAM to keep framerates steady how are you ensuring your FPS comparisons are actually done at a like for like IQ and GPU workload?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661119867242651650

Here we see the 4060Ti 30% ahead of the 6700XT but the IQ is not even in the same ballpark.

How would you report this kind of thing? Would you give the 4060Ti a DNR because it didn't display the same image, would you use that FPS figure but point out IQ discrepancy (that would impact the geomean at the end though) would you ignore such titles. Would you change settings to the highest playable and then test all competing cards at that lower setting. I don't see any good answer but it is a challenge you are going to have to overcome.

 

[tvshacker]

@W1zzard With more games using texture swapping when they run out of VRAM to keep framerates steady how are you ensuring your FPS comparisons are actually done at a like for like IQ and GPU workload?

Very interesting question.
I really hope @W1zzard can answer if he did see this happening in the tests and how he plans on identifying these cases in the future.

 

[W1zzard]

LOL.
TPU moderator now doing damage control, going around and posting this "notice" on forum users legitimate questions, how much Nvidia is paying TPU!

Trolling in Reviews. Discussion is welcome, claiming we are breaking the law is not ok, not even on the internet

Who is trolling? Also I did not claim (means proven fact), just raised a question about possible payoff!

Just recheck your AMD reviews, constantly -5% avg weaker results on same games than 90% of other reviewers with same card and bench settings.

I gave you that warning myself. Don't dance around the words. Happy to have a constructive discussion with you next time

 

[Bomby569]

Never heard of any problems with PowerColor cards. I thought they were some of the better AMD cards.

when i bought team red, it was preferably sapphire for me.

 

[JimmyDoogs]

LOL.
TPU moderator now doing damage control, going around and posting this "notice" on forum users legitimate questions, how much Nvidia is paying TPU!

Trolling in Reviews. Discussion is welcome, claiming we are breaking the law is not ok, not even on the internet

Who is trolling? Also I did not claim (means proven fact), just raised a question about possible payoff!

Just recheck your AMD reviews, constantly -5% avg weaker results on same games than 90% of other reviewers with same card and bench settings.

Who is Trolling? People have been up in arms to the staff of a website for reviewing a product with their own opinions as a FREE service to you. It's trolling when instead of asking the staff to do something but DEMANDING something out of them. I own a 4090. I like it. Does that mean it's right for everyone? No. Just because one person likes the 4060 ti that doesn't mean they're saying "Everyone stop what you're doing and buy this card." It's honestly still a legitime choice in it's price range. If anything you guys are just missing the plausibility of FG. Is that right for everyone? No. Is it right for people who play a specific FG title? Yes. For people who play a non FG title then get the 6750 xt. It's very obvious to me.. You didn't pay anything for this review, so it's strange to me to demand anything like you're a mom in a restaurant. You can ask like a human being, that's it. If you don't think it's worth it then I'd love to hear the reasoning why you don't want it because that stuff is fun and interesting to me. But what's not is when people criticize something silly like a badge and completely miss all the amazing information provided the minute that the embargo is lifted.

 

[SSDOverprovisioning]

UE4 is smart. It really trolls you. I can play Jedi Survivor at 4K FSR Quality with ray tracing enabled on my 8 GB card. But then, textures go PS2 style even if the texture detail is set to high. At 1440p FSR quality it is still very adamant, and only at 1080p FSR quality, you will get normal looking textures most of the time with ray tracing.

All of this happens while the dedicated VRAM usage is stranded to 6.2-6.3 GB and total VRAM usage never goes above 7.2 GB. Maybe NVIDIA should fix that instead.. Same happens in Hogwarts Legacy (even the shared hogwarts comparison sees the 8 GB with only 6.2 GB usage. Spiderman also behaved similarly).

8 GB sucks. Stay away from it.

For hogwarts legacy, you need to play at 1080p high preset without ray tracing for an 8 gig card to load proper textures. No other two ways about it. Even enabling DLSS3 buckles a 12 GB card at 1440p with ultra preset.

The card design is also troll: DLSS2 and DLSS3 exists for ray tracing (since ray tracing makes games super CPU bound). But ray tracing also increases VRAM consumption immensely to a point you won't even able to use it at 1080p with 8 GB buffer. So practically, its a troll card. Maybe it could be a cheap way to feed a 1080p 240 Hz screen without ray tracing. I dunno.

 

[Viilutaja]

I gave you that warning myself. Don't dance around the words. Happy to have a constructive discussion with you next time

Ok, I ask directly then.

What warrants that Highly recommended badge then?
So far every reputable YT channel have said "F'OFF Nvidia" - NO BUY!

Also I did not dance around words. I asked a question about Nvidia paying you off, because the conclusion. Which was a fair point, probably every other reader who saw that badge, asked same question in their head.
You clearly got offended by that mark, which shows there is something there and then, rephrased my question to actual 'I claimed' to make me as a bad guy.
You as a 'journalist' you should know the difference there.

Who is Trolling? People have been up in arms to the staff of a website for reviewing a product with their own opinions as a FREE service to you. It's trolling when instead of asking the staff to do something but DEMANDING something out of them. I own a 4090. I like it. Does that mean it's right for everyone? No. Just because one person likes the 4060 ti that doesn't mean they're saying "Everyone stop what you're doing and buy this card." It's honestly still a legitime choice in it's price range. If anything you guys are just missing the plausibility of FG. Is that right for everyone? No. Is it right for people who play a specific FG title? Yes. For people who play a non FG title then get the 6750 xt. It's very obvious to me.. You didn't pay anything for this review, so it's strange to me to demand anything like you're a mom in a restaurant. You can ask like a human being, that's it. If you don't think it's worth it then I'd love to hear the reasoning why you don't want it because that stuff is fun and interesting to me. But what's not is when people criticize something silly like a badge and completely miss all the amazing information provided the minute that the embargo is lifted.

Where did you see me demand?
And I asked as politely as I could, is Nvidia paying TPU for this review?
"Highly recommended" is total 180' of every other review site out there!
Legitimate aske by me.
TPU is not some Nvidia fanboy who is discussing this over the beer in their moms basement. There are readers and links will be directed to this review. Nvidia is making money of this Highly recommended conclusion- because TPU (clearly not a noname site is saying ITS THAT GOOD)!

 

[JimmyDoogs]

Ok, I ask directly then.

What warrants that Highly recommended badge then?
So far every reputable YT channel have said "F'OFF Nvidia" - NO BUY!

Also I did not dance around words. I asked a question about Nvidia paying you off, because the conclusion. Which was a fair point, probably every other reader who saw that badge, asked same question in their head.
You clearly got offended by that mark, which shows there is something there and then, rephrased my question to actual 'I claimed' to make me as a bad guy.
You as a 'journalist' you should know the difference there.

I'll answer this question for him. Because it's a traditional image they use at the end of a review when it is something plausable to buy. It's not like he specifically made the image for this one review. If anything why do you push bashing on other people?

 

[Viilutaja]

I'll answer this question for him. Because it's a traditional image they use at the end of a review when it is something plausable to buy. It's not like he specifically made the image for this one review. If anything why do you push bashing on other people?

What people and where am I bashing? I did not look who wrote that article- it could have been Donald J Trump- do not care! TPU is a brand and an organization. My question was directed towards TECHPOWERUP.
If the OP got offended, that's on him on being silly sensitive there.

I have seen them not putting any badge after some reviews. So this is a cop out answer- "they had to put something there!".

 

[Vya Domus]

The 4070ti shouldn't have existed, or more precisely they should have never intended to market it as a 4080.

That really screwed up their product stack beyond repair, their original plan was to shift every product 1 tier above in price but because the 4080 12GB got rebranded now they had to also rebrand everything else as being one tier above what it was originally meant to be so everything now looks even worse than it already was.

 

[Gica]

Because setting a single setting, Textures, from High to Ultra will make most games look noticeably better for a tiny and usually impercievable fps reduction, not that laughably large 50% you tossed out. Well, unless you run out of VRAM which this card will do way before a cheaper 6700 XT. That's an OK thing to happen at $270-300, not $400 in the 4060 Ti.

Show me the game where you lose half the fps when setting textures from High to Ultra. LOL and importantly with which card (hint: the ones that run outta VRAM).

Changing from the High to Ultra preset involves numerous settings that have a major impact on the GPU, some on the CPU as well. So, up to VRAM, the GPU kills you at high resolutions and settings. For this reason the 6700XT will never surpass the 3070Ti and the 6800 16GB cannot surpass the 3080 10GB.
4060 is the card for 1080p and 1440p. If 8GB isn't enough for these resolutions, then anything under 16GB can't run 4k. Really?
AMD's tactics are clear. In the absence of competitiveness in front of nVidia (see RX 7600 reviews), it beats the drum on memory. Exactly like in the days when Assassins was scary "as many cores as possible" in 2017 and now, 6 years later, we find that you can play quietly with 4 cores

If a few celebrities wear panties on their heads, all the sheep will do the same and think you're an idiot if you wear them where they belong.

 

[pavle]

A great 4050 card, people just need to see it as it is. Review was as thorough as always.
Never trust fake_frames™.

 

[wheresmycar]

2020, RTX 3080 - $700
2022, RTX 4080 - $1200
2024, RTX 5080 - $2040
2026, RTX 6080 - $3468
2028, RTX 7080 - $5896
2030, RTX 8080 - $10022
2032, RTX 9080 - $17038
2034, RTX 1080 - $28965

...so a RTX 1080 "TI" probably for ~$30k

Excellent!! In 2034 i'm gonna sell my GTX 1080 TI

 

[fullinfusion]

GamersNexus video on this card was so entertaining, as he was having a hard time holding his compouser trying not to laugh so much about this shit card! GG Nvidia!

 

[rsouzadk]

Nice 4050 review.

 

[N3M3515]

You're too late to the party, where do you see that award?

Seems like he came straight to the comments

If so, I could pay for it $1,200

And that's how nvidia tests the waters to see if they can sell a $700 gpu at $1200

 

[Arcdar]

thanks for a very detailed and as always exzellent review

 

[N3M3515]

Powercolor. Gross. Wouldnt touch them with a 10 foot pole.

Can you share?, i've had "fighter" and "Red devil" with no problems.

 

[Techkek]

Insane shilling in the value and conclusions page for this absolute trash card. Legitimate integrity questions for TPU being asked in discussion. Admin/reviewer using open hostility, bullying and literally every strawman, goal post moving logical fallacy possible to defend NVIDIA. This card is flatly an embarrassment. Everyone knows it. Watching you go full tilt defending it is bizarre.