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rdk said:
Is this your guess or there is a something that confirms it?
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It's Phison E16 controller right?
If it is it supports 1600 MHz.
Need to check if its running as 1600 MHz
Phison E18 supports higher iirc 2666 MHz
 
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please would be possible to expand advanced search with following:
1. controller's H.B.M. support
2. size range supported of H.B.M. (e.g. default / custom or range from-to)
3. DRAM cache size (range from-to)
(atm. it's possible to just search if there is any DRAM cache but not size)
 
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Dwarden said:
2. size range supported of H.B.M. (e.g. default / custom or range from-to)
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Not sure if such a filter makes sense. The NVMe spec doesn't define a range, only "minimum" and "preferred", Google for HMPRE and HMMIN

Also, going by my own real-life performance data it doesn't matter which size of HMB, but which algorithms, i.e. you want WD SN770 and you'll never notice you have a DRAM-less drive
 
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W1zzard said:
Not sure if such a filter makes sense. The NVMe spec doesn't define a range, only "minimum" and "preferred", Google for HMPRE and HMMIN

Also, going by my own real-life performance data it doesn't matter which size of HMB, but which algorithms, i.e. you want WD SN770 and you'll never notice you have a DRAM-less drive
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so e.g. the drives with Realtek RTS5762 controller as a Hybrid controller,
which supports DRAM Cache for storing Meta-Data, but also H.M.B. (Host Memory Buffer)

in this example A-ADATA has ones with 128MB DRAM on those
hence
those aren't faster / more responsive than just drives with HBM (in system RAM) only ?
(and ofc shall be better than no-HBM and no-DRAM cache drives while worse than drives with 1,2,4,GB onboard DRAM cache)

plus like recently SOLIDIGM shown with P41 (no-DRAM) and P44 Pro (nGB-DRAM)
with theirs custom driver (non Microsoft default driver ) it's more responsive (clever prefetch etc.)
plus they can use custom/dynamic size of HBM (not the default Microsoft driver enforced fixed size)
as result there are significant gains in performance

thus adding also one more point
4. database entry + filter search if the drive has custom driver not just default Microsoft one ;)

cause it would be nice to know/search if drive supports HBM at all (and what type), if it has fixed or custom size and if there is custom or not driver etc.
 
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Dwarden said:
with theirs custom driver (non Microsoft default driver ) it's more responsive (clever prefetch etc.)
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That's going to be a massive negative since you cant use directstorage with third party drivers

I can see the point of wanting to filter by DRAM/HBM, but too fine a level of detail won't help since some drives handle a lack of DRAM better than others
 
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Mussels said:
That's going to be a massive negative since you cant use directstorage with third party drivers

I can see the point of wanting to filter by DRAM/HBM, but too fine a level of detail won't help since some drives handle a lack of DRAM better than others
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well either Microsoft is going to adapt especially for signed / certified drivers
or Valve and others 'competitors' will do it sooner for e.g. SteamOS
(also the amount of titles using DirectStorage isn't even 0.01% of popular games so not problem, for now)

and yes, e.g. SLC cache size / behavior plays role too etc. again may need some filter for that ...
5. SLC cache present / type / size as filter

:)
 
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Heya @GabrielLP14 ,

Kioxia Exceria G2 1 TB​

0.384a
OS: 10.0 build 19045
Drive : 2(NVME)
Driver : W10(2:3)
Model : KIOXIA-EXCERIA G2 SSD
Fw : ECFA17.1
Size : 953869 MB [1000.2 GB]
LBA Size: 512
AdminCmd: 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x80 0x81 0x82 0xD0 0xD1 0xD2
I/O Cmd : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x08 0x09
F/W : ECFA17.1 00
P/N :
Bank00: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank01: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank02: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank03: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank04: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank05: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank06: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank07: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank08: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank09: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank10: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank11: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank12: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank13: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank14: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank15: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Controller : PS5012-E12
CPU Clk : 666
Flash CE : 16
Flash Channel : 4
Interleave : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ -------- --------]
FlashR Clk,MT : 666
FlashW Clk,MT : 666
Die per CE : 1
Block per CE : 3324
Page per Block: 1344
Bit Per Cell : 3(TLC)
DRAM Size,MB : 1024
DRAM Clock,MHz: 1600
DRAM Type : DDR4
PMIC Type : PS6102/PS6106
PE Cycle Limit: 730
SLC cache : 0x600000/0x400000
 
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Hugis said:
Heya @GabrielLP14 ,

Kioxia Exceria G2 1 TB​

0.384a
OS: 10.0 build 19045
Drive : 2(NVME)
Driver : W10(2:3)
Model : KIOXIA-EXCERIA G2 SSD
Fw : ECFA17.1
Size : 953869 MB [1000.2 GB]
LBA Size: 512
AdminCmd: 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x80 0x81 0x82 0xD0 0xD1 0xD2
I/O Cmd : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x08 0x09
F/W : ECFA17.1 00
P/N :
Bank00: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank01: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank02: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank03: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank04: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank05: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank06: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank07: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank08: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank09: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank10: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank11: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank12: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank13: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank14: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank15: 0x98,0x3e,0x98,0x3,0x76,0xe4,0x8,0x1e - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 2Plane/die
Controller : PS5012-E12
CPU Clk : 666
Flash CE : 16
Flash Channel : 4
Interleave : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ -------- --------]
FlashR Clk,MT : 666
FlashW Clk,MT : 666
Die per CE : 1
Block per CE : 3324
Page per Block: 1344
Bit Per Cell : 3(TLC)
DRAM Size,MB : 1024
DRAM Clock,MHz: 1600
DRAM Type : DDR4
PMIC Type : PS6102/PS6106
PE Cycle Limit: 730
SLC cache : 0x600000/0x400000
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Thanks mate
 
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GabrielLP14 said:
Thanks mate
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the previous one you put up was a 2TB but you labeled it on here as 1TB, dunnno if you have changed that :)

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Dwarden said:
well either Microsoft is going to adapt especially for signed / certified drivers
or Valve and others 'competitors' will do it sooner for e.g. SteamOS
(also the amount of titles using DirectStorage isn't even 0.01% of popular games so not problem, for now)

and yes, e.g. SLC cache size / behavior plays role too etc. again may need some filter for that ...
5. SLC cache present / type / size as filter

:)
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I don't see it ever being adopted onto linux, when it wont even work on 10
They locked the drivers down because they keep blocking it working, some DRM and antivirus block it still to this day - it's requirements to function are quite strict
 
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i got in mind those features / improvements from Solidigm because it's in theirs interested to support linux based OSes (SteamOS, servers, workstations and in general enterprise)

in sense of DirectStorage, i expect someone to come up with OSS variant too ...
 
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  • S500 Pro is listed as S5000 Pro.
  • In the search filters, under "Controller Manufacturer", MaxioTech is there twice with different capitalisation (and different amounts of drives shown for each).
  • Some drives I sent in January have still not been added :p I have even more that I haven't sent details of yet, too.
 
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S456 said:
  • S500 Pro is listed as S5000 Pro.
  • In the search filters, under "Controller Manufacturer", MaxioTech is there twice with different capitalisation (and different amounts of drives shown for each).
  • Some drives I sent in January have still not been added :p I have even more that I haven't sent details of yet, too.
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oh Thank for the heads up i'll fix those things
Hmm can you help remember which drives you sent me in janurary? To be honest i've been quite busy so i didn't have much time and probably forgot them but i'll try ASAP

S456 said:
  • S500 Pro is listed as S5000 Pro.
  • In the search filters, under "Controller Manufacturer", MaxioTech is there twice with different capitalisation (and different amounts of drives shown for each).
  • Some drives I sent in January have still not been added :p I have even more that I haven't sent details of yet, too.
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  • S500 Pro - Fixed
  • MaxioTech fixed
Thanks for the heads up. If you don't mind can you tell me again which drive i need to add?
 
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Thanks for the heads up. If you don't mind can you tell me again which drive i need to add?
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  • Integral V2 Series 2.5" 120GB (I also now have details for the 240GB version that I haven't sent yet - it uses completely different components)
  • Patriot Burst Elite (this is not the same as Burst as far as I can tell)

I also have the following new info (let me know if you want the flash id txt for each):
  • Kingston A400 with SMI controller and Micron B47R flash.
  • Silicon Power A55 128GB with SMI controller and Micron B47R flash.
 
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S456 said:
  • Integral V2 Series 2.5" 120GB (I also now have details for the 240GB version that I haven't sent yet - it uses completely different components)
  • Patriot Burst Elite (this is not the same as Burst as far as I can tell)

I also have the following new info (let me know if you want the flash id txt for each):
  • Kingston A400 with SMI controller and Micron B47R flash.
  • Silicon Power A55 128GB with SMI controller and Micron B47R flash.
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  • I couldn't find decent reviews, do you have any link for sources?
  • Will add the Burst Elite
can you provide me some links for these other drives?
 
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GabrielLP14 said:
can you provide me some links for these other drives?
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In the ZIP file I sent you in January I included a PDF for each drive.

GabrielLP14 said:
I couldn't find decent reviews, do you have any link for sources?
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Well, with the Integral brand, I'm not sure how well known they are outside of Western-Europe. A lot of reviews of SSDs seem to come from Eastern-Europe etc. I did take some photos of the inside of one of the Integral V2 drives, but I don't know where they are at the moment.
 
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@GabrielLP14 The TPU review of the 1TB Crucial P5 Plus is missing in the SSD database.
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Wirko said:
@GabrielLP14 The TPU review of the 1TB Crucial P5 Plus is missing in the SSD database.
www.techpowerup.com

Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB Review

The Crucial P5 Plus is the latest flagship SSD from Crucial. It is built using a new in-house PCI-Express 4.0 controller made by Micron, paired with the company's state-of-the-art 176-layer 3D TLC NAND flash. At $180, the Crucial P5 is priced similarly to the offerings of WD and Samsung, but...
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Oh i didn't know we had one thanks for the update
 
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