Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

ViperXTR · Sep 16, 2023

RJARRRPCGP said:
Did Windows start saying "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA"? IIRC, that's a classic one for losing RAM stability. (Whether it's the RAM, the RAM subsystem or of course one of the RAM slots)

Exactly that bsod error. But after that, I can't boot properly anymore, boot throwing missing boot files error requiring windows repair etc. Then i tested only 1 ram stick at a time, and the other one is the one constantly getting boot error and fails memtest while the other is good, passes memtest and boots up properly.
Got new sets of ram sticks and is all ok now.

RJARRRPCGP · Sep 16, 2023

ViperXTR said:
Exactly that bsod error. But after that, I can't boot properly anymore, boot throwing missing boot files error requiring windows repair etc. Then i tested only 1 ram stick at a time, and the other one is the one constantly getting boot error and fails memtest while the other is good, passes memtest and boots up properly.
Got new sets of ram sticks and is all ok now.

Yeah, that screams something RAM-related. Those are classic RAM instability symptoms. Even though I got "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" for RAM that appeared to have degraded in just one year! Back in late-May. Unless the IMC is a dud! With the same Ryzen 7 CPU model that your sig has at the time of this post.

ViperXTR · Sep 16, 2023

RJARRRPCGP said:
Yeah, that screams something RAM-related. Those are classic RAM instability symptoms. Even though I got "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" for RAM that appeared to have degraded in just one year! Back in late-May. Unless the IMC is a dud! With the same Ryzen 7 CPU model that your sig has at the time of this post.

I wonder if it has something to do with my tiny voltage increase? I tried running it on 3733 to 3800mhz from 3600 (1867 to 1900mhz ifclock) with it because it fails to post, boot and be stable if i don't slightly up the voltage.

RJARRRPCGP · Sep 16, 2023

Is 0.96-0.97V way too low for SoC?

My daily-driver build at the time of this post:

ASRock B550 PG Velocita build (has been my daily driver since at least early-2022) Overlay stats for the build while gaming!

I just had a good game today, with Halo Custom Edition 1.0.10:

www.techpowerup.com

freeagent · Sep 17, 2023

RJARRRPCGP said:
s 0.96-0.97V way too low for SoC?

If running 1600 1:1 its fine.

RJARRRPCGP · Sep 17, 2023

freeagent said:
If running 1600 1:1 its fine.

When it went unstable back on May 18th, I had it at 1:1.

freeagent · Sep 17, 2023

RJARRRPCGP said:
When it went unstable back on May 18th, I had it at 1:1.

I dont really know anything other than my B-Die.. I have no real experience with DDR4 other than what I am running right now.. I know I can run 4 sticks at 1600 1:1 with ~.95v on all three of my Zen 3 parts.

Throw those sticks out and get some B-Die

I kid..

RJARRRPCGP · Sep 17, 2023

freeagent said:
Throw those sticks out and get some B-Die

I kid..

How could I tell that I'm ordering ones with B-die?

Count von Schwalbe · Sep 17, 2023

B-die tracker - Google it

freeagent · Sep 17, 2023

RJARRRPCGP said:
How could I tell that I'm ordering ones with B-die?

The timings should be flat, ie 14-14-14, or 16-16-16.

I was given an older set of B-Die that have numbers like today, 4000 18-something something, but they run 3800 16-16-16 no problem at 1.45v. I havent really messed with them too much since it is my sons system.

Edit:

His board is the Strix B550-F, the original one

What a trooper

tabascosauz · Sep 17, 2023

freeagent said:
I dont really know anything other than my B-Die.. I have no real experience with DDR4 other than what I am running right now.. I know I can run 4 sticks at 1600 1:1 with ~.95v on all three of my Zen 3 parts.

Throw those sticks out and get some B-Die

I kid..

I think my SR Viper Steels are dying again. Had to come back down to 3800CL16 about a week ago. I just end up progressively nuking Windows if I stay up there at 4400.

Thinking of swapping in my Ballistix Rev.E again, but I just don't think I give enough of a shit. I already RMA'd the Patriots once.

DR Tridents still running like a charm, but then again, it's never been run daily past 3800 or 1.55V. Viper Steels been running at 1.6V for a while now, always being punished by the iGPU.

Count von Schwalbe · Sep 17, 2023

tabascosauz said:
1.6V

freeagent · Sep 17, 2023

tabascosauz said:
I think my SR Viper Steels are dying again. Had to come back down to 3800CL16 about a week ago. I just end up progressively nuking Windows if I stay up there at 4400.

Thinking of swapping in my Ballistix Rev.E again, but I just don't think I give enough of a shit. I already RMA'd the Patriots once.

DR Tridents still running like a charm, but then again, it's never been run daily past 3800 or 1.55V. Viper Steels been running at 1.6V for a while now, always being punished by the iGPU.

I am running my G.Skills at 1.6v right now, though its not the first time. They seem to be ok with it, and temps are not all that different..

Maybe I shouldnt run 1.6v

tabascosauz · Sep 17, 2023

freeagent said:
I am running my G.Skills at 1.6v right now, though its not the first time. They seem to be ok with it, and temps are not all that different..

Maybe I shouldnt run 1.6v

There's probably not much in this world that is as brutal as iGPU, so you're probably fine. The Strix-I is also apparently a pretty bad board for mem OC, maybe it's not even the Patriot kit. Maybe I will have to rework procODT or something because the board is so useless it can't work it out on its own

freeagent · Sep 17, 2023

The one thing that I love about running an X3D..

Is how quiet my system is. Such a treat.

My fans are barely doing anything over idle and it is glorious.

RJARRRPCGP · Sep 17, 2023

freeagent said:
His board is the Strix B550-F, the original one

What a trooper

I hope mine is good! I have the ROG Strix B550-F Gaming, which came with BIOS version 2006, which is from 2021, IIRC. Seemed to be even better after flashing it to the latest one as of early-September.

It's not even powered on right now and I have it in the Fractal Focus G case and configured the BIOS with my Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 Super.

I would have went all into it, if I didn't have a lot of important stuff on the one that's in the sig, at the time of this post.

tabascosauz said:
I think my SR Viper Steels are dying again. Had to come back down to 3800CL16 about a week ago. I just end up progressively nuking Windows if I stay up there at 4400.

Thinking of swapping in my Ballistix Rev.E again, but I just don't think I give enough of a shit. I already RMA'd the Patriots once.

What symptoms? Is CBS reporting random files being corrupted and/or Windows starts logging file corruption reports for random files? The Bluetooth file issue is a known issue with 22H2. It's if other files are affected.

ViperXTR · Sep 17, 2023

Geez, 1.6v? I thought me seeing 1.4v on my old ram was pretty high (i suspect this killed one of my ram sticks)

freeagent said:
The one thing that I love about running an X3D..

Is how quiet my system is. Such a treat.

My fans are barely doing anything over idle and it is glorious.

One day, ill have an X3D as well, prices are dropping on my region but ill still wait a bit

freeagent · Sep 17, 2023

ViperXTR said:
Geez, 1.6v?

I think its ok for Samsung B-Die. I think 1.65 is ok too..

AusWolf · Sep 17, 2023

Nordic said:
I would have to go back to stock to test that. I don't see the point.

I'm just thinking there might be something with your cooling, just like my Silent Loop 2 280 mm wasn't good for the X3D. It worked with every other CPU I've had, but the X3D ran at 4400-4500 MHz max under it at max temps. The Dark Rock 4 works so much better! It lets it run at max boost, 4800 MHz all-core while maxing out at 82-ish °C.

My conclusion is that the X3D hates water (or there's something with the coldplate design).

TheLostSwede · Sep 17, 2023

Got to say, this RAM is really something else. CTCWD532G6000HC30DC01
https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/catalog/act.php?act=2&index_id=277 (PDF)

EXPERT DESKTOP DDR5

The T-CREATE EXPERT DDR5 Memory's professional cooling design delivers stable performance, larger capacities, faster processing speeds, and next-level multitasking.

www.teamgroupinc.com

Nordic · Sep 17, 2023

I have plenty of room for improvement.

Belfaborac · Sep 17, 2023

TheLostSwede said:
Got to say, this RAM is really something else. CTCWD532G6000HC30DC01
https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/catalog/act.php?act=2&index_id=277 (PDF)

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I don't mean to rain on your parade or anything, but pretty much all Hynix M or A die can do that well...

freeagent · Sep 17, 2023

78X3D is pretty spunky compared to 58X3D.. pretty nice!

TheLostSwede · Sep 17, 2023

Belfaborac said:
I don't mean to rain on your parade or anything, but pretty much all Hynix M or A die can do that well...

Not all of it is good for tight timings though, high frequency, sure, I don't have much to come with there, but considering my CPU, why would I bother with that?

freeagent said:
78X3D is pretty spunky compared to 58X3D.. pretty nice!

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Not a bad AM4 system though.
I'm hoping this system is going to last me at least three years now.

freeagent · Sep 17, 2023

TheLostSwede said:
I'm hoping this system is going to last me at least three years now.

I don't think that will be a problem at all.. It is a beast :rockout:

System Name	Ultima
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard	MSI Mag B550M Mortar
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 rev4 w/ Ryzen offset mount
Memory	G.SKill Ripjaws V 2x16GB DDR4 3600
Video Card(s)	Palit GeForce RTX 4070 12GB Dual
Storage	WD Black SN850X 2TB Gen4, Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB , 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD sata,
Display(s)	ASUS TUF VG249Q3A 24" 1080p 165-180Hz VRR
Case	DarkFlash DLM21 Mesh
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Realtek ALC1200 Audio/Nvidia HD Audio
Power Supply	Corsair RM650
Mouse	Rog Strix Impact 3 Wireless \| Wacom Intuos CTH-480
Keyboard	A4Tech B314 Keyboard
Software	Windows 10 Pro

System Name	KHR-1
Processor	Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard	ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
Memory	32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR
Video Card(s)	Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
Storage	Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
Display(s)	Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup)
Case	Corsair 275R
Audio Device(s)	Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers
Power Supply	eVGA Supernova G3 750W
Mouse	Logitech G Pro (Hero)
Software	Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2

System Name	Ultima
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard	MSI Mag B550M Mortar
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 rev4 w/ Ryzen offset mount
Memory	G.SKill Ripjaws V 2x16GB DDR4 3600
Video Card(s)	Palit GeForce RTX 4070 12GB Dual
Storage	WD Black SN850X 2TB Gen4, Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB , 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD sata,
Display(s)	ASUS TUF VG249Q3A 24" 1080p 165-180Hz VRR
Case	DarkFlash DLM21 Mesh
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Realtek ALC1200 Audio/Nvidia HD Audio
Power Supply	Corsair RM650
Mouse	Rog Strix Impact 3 Wireless \| Wacom Intuos CTH-480
Keyboard	A4Tech B314 Keyboard
Software	Windows 10 Pro

System Name	KHR-1
Processor	Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard	ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
Memory	32 GB G.Skill RipJawsV F4-3200C16D-32GVR
Video Card(s)	Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
Storage	Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
Display(s)	Alienware AW3423DWF OLED-ASRock PG27Q15R2A (backup)
Case	Corsair 275R
Audio Device(s)	Technics SA-EX140 receiver with Polk VT60 speakers
Power Supply	eVGA Supernova G3 750W
Mouse	Logitech G Pro (Hero)
Software	Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2

Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Cooling	Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1
Memory	2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14
Video Card(s)	Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC
Storage	WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB
Display(s)	LG 50UP7100
Case	Fractal Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	JBL Bar 700
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Oculus 3
Software	Yes
Benchmark Scores	Yes

System Name	Work Computer \| Unfinished Computer
Processor	Core i7-6700 \| Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard	Dell Q170 \| Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi
Cooling	A fan? \| Truly Custom Loop
Memory	4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 \| 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26
Video Card(s)	Dell Radeon R7 450 \| RTX 2080 Ti FE
Storage	Crucial BX500 2TB \| TBD
Display(s)	3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 \| TBD
Case	Dell \| Heavily Modified Phanteks P400
Power Supply	Dell TFX Non-standard \| EVGA BQ 650W
Mouse	Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse\| TBD

System Name	ab┃ob
Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

System Name	Nebulon B
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi
Cooling	be quiet! Dark Rock 4
Memory	2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB
Storage	2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2
Display(s)	Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen
Case	Kolink Citadel Mesh black
Audio Device(s)	Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime GX-750
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard	Logitech G413 SE
Software	Bazzite (Fedora Linux) KDE

System Name	Overlord Mk MLI
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory	32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s)	Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage	1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s)	Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case	Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard	Corsair K70 Max
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w

Processor	7800x3d
Motherboard	Gigabyte B650 Auros Elite AX
Cooling	Custom Water
Memory	GSKILL 2x16gb 6000mhz Cas 30 with custom timings
Video Card(s)	MSI RX 6750 XT MECH 2X 12G OC
Storage	Adata SX8200 1tb with Windows, Samsung 990 Pro 2tb with games
Display(s)	HP Omen 27q QHD 165hz
Case	ThermalTake P3
Power Supply	SuperFlower Leadex Titanium
Software	Windows 11 64 Bit
Benchmark Scores	CB23: 1811 / 19424 CB24: 1136 / 7687

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7900X
Motherboard	MSI MPG X670E Carbon WiFi
Cooling	Custom Loop (Watercool/HWLabs)
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5-6000 64GB (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5K)
Video Card(s)	Gainward RTX 4090 Phantom GS
Storage	7 x M.2, 4 x SSD, 2 x HDD.
Display(s)	Alienware AW3423DW
Case	Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s)	Logitech Z207, Shanling UA1 Plus
Power Supply	Corsair HX1200
Mouse	Logitech MX Master
Keyboard	Logitech k360
Software	Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	None, but I think they'd be fairly decent.

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