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I guess parts will be extra warm if the computer is on for a long time? Maybe good to turn it off sometimes and not only to restarts?
System Name | D30 w.2x E5-2680; T5500 w.2x X5675;2x P35 w.X3360; 2x Q33 w.Q9550S/Q9400S & laptops. |
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I would not put that in my home...or my car.I'm thinking strongly about swapping over.
EDIT;
They do make them for my UPS,
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Why?I would not put that in my home...or my car.
But it is your choice.![]()
System Name | D30 w.2x E5-2680; T5500 w.2x X5675;2x P35 w.X3360; 2x Q33 w.Q9550S/Q9400S & laptops. |
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1. They do not like HEAT.Why?
I would agree with you concerning larger batteries in homes and especially in cars! The size of battery for UPS units however is not something I would personally worry about.1. They do not like HEAT.
2. They can't be extinguished by any way, other then throwing them in Pit or Metal case.
So in car, it is a NO WAY.
& in house, NOT RISKING it.![]()
System Name | BTXTREME |
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Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
A UPS is not internal to the Dell systems being discussed here. Additionally, Dell does NOT disallow user upgrades and whatnot, and doing so does not void the Dell warranty. I think your understanding here needs adjustment.One of the things that make Dells different than aftermarket DIY computers is that they are UL (Underwrtiters Laboratory) In EU it's probably something else. They've been tested and certified not to start fires. That's also why they tend to discourage modifications and uncertifide upgrades.
You seem to be greatly over-reacting. The battery is only one part of a UPS. My APC model can actually take and properly charge lithium batteries, so it's not a fire hazard or any other hazard.Attaching it to a flamethrower UPS defeats the whole purpose.
System Name | BTXTREME |
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Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
What many don't realize is that while Lead-Acid and Lithium-Ion are very different chemistries, their mutual charging characteristics are very similar and can be interchangeable. I was not aware of this myself until the subject came up in another thread and wanted to research the matter further. Simply put, a manufacturer can build a Lithium based battery that will act as a drop-in replacement for Lead-Acid batteries without the need to modify the device needing the battery. It must be done carefully, but is not difficult if the engineering is done right.Maybe there are some that are certifed with those batteries. But it seems this discussion was about switching to them in existing lead acid UPS devices. That might not be quite the same thing.
Context is important. I'm not saying you're over-reacting to the dangers of fire and I am not under-reacting to same. I personally will never own, drive or ride in a vehicle that uses Lithium batteries in bulk. What I'm saying is that batteries of such a type that are used in the home/office environment are well regulated and pose a nearly nonexistent risk. Because the dangers of Lithium are known, regulations are strict. One can't just make a Lithium battery without adhering to regulations for manufacturing and transportation(key point).Is it possible to overreact to setting your home or place of employment on fire? I guess there's only one way to find out.
System Name | BTXTREME |
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Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
Have you check in the BIOS to enable that SATA channel it's connected too? They are often disabled when no drives are connected, otherwise the BIOS gives warnings about the drive not being found.I got my 10tb drive today. It did not show up in my Dell T3500. I had to format it in GPT in my Asrock Z590 oc formula. I tried it in my Dell again. I cannot see the drive.
System Name | HP EliteBook 725 G3 |
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Processor | AMD PRO A10-8700B (1.8 GHz CMT dual module with 3.2 GHz boost) |
Motherboard | HP proprietary |
Cooling | pretty good |
Memory | 8 GB SK Hynix DDR3 SODIMM |
Video Card(s) | Radeon R6 (Carrizo/GCNv3) |
Storage | internal Kioxia XG6 1 TB NVMe SSD (aftermarket) |
Display(s) | HP P22h G4 21.5" 1080p (& 768p internal LCD) |
Case | HP proprietary metal case |
Audio Device(s) | built-in Conexant CX20724 HDA chipset -> Roland RH-200S |
Power Supply | HP-branded AC adapter |
Mouse | Steelseries Rival 310 |
Keyboard | Cherry G84-5200 |
Software | Alma Linux 9.1 |
Benchmark Scores | Broadcom BCM94356 11ac M.2 WiFi card (aftermarket) |
You cannot lump together traditional NMC Lithium Ion batteries and LiFePO4 (lithium-iron-phosphate) batteries, which are safer (and already in use in multiple mass production EVs). But the good news is that if you insist on avoiding lithium batteries completely, there is already an EV available in China with a new Na-ion (sodium ion) battery.What many don't realize is that while Lead-Acid and Lithium-Ion are very different chemistries, their mutual charging characteristics are very similar and can be interchangeable. I was not aware of this myself until the subject came up in another thread and wanted to research the matter further. Simply put, a manufacturer can build a Lithium based battery that will act as a drop-in replacement for Lead-Acid batteries without the need to modify the device needing the battery. It must be done carefully, but is not difficult if the engineering is done right.
Context is important. I'm not saying you're over-reacting to the dangers of fire and I am not under-reacting to same. I personally will never own, drive or ride in a vehicle that uses Lithium batteries in bulk. What I'm saying is that batteries of such a type that are used in the home/office environment are well regulated and pose a nearly nonexistent risk. Because the dangers of Lithium are known, regulations are strict. One can't just make a Lithium battery without adhering to regulations for manufacturing and transportation(key point).
You're right and I'm not.You cannot lump together traditional NMC Lithium Ion batteries and LiFePO4 (lithium-iron-phosphate) batteries
SafER, not perfectly safe. LiFePo4 batteries can be safer to use, but they WILL still catch fire. The lithium might be bound to iron in a phosphate substrate, but that doesn't mean it's not still very dangerous.which are safer (and already in use in multiple mass production EVs).
I'm waiting for a newer chemistry to hit the market. There is one involving a carbon/sulphur compound that shows great promise and is very safe.But the good news is that if you insist on avoiding lithium batteries completely, there is already an EV available in China with a new Na-ion (sodium ion) battery.
Yes i checked. It was the sata power from my old Cooler master 500w. I had to use a molex to sata adapter to make it spin. It first showed up as 1123mb in HDD Regenrator but after i updated the RTS it showed up as 9314. But in my computer it shows 9.09gb., taping the 3.3V tabs on the disk's power supply connector then after a certain SATA3.x version as voltage on this can cause the disk to become completely powerless via built-in MOS-FET pulleys on the disk controller card (a deliberate 'feature' on server disks for to be able to do 'Norwegian reset' - ie 'voltage off - voltage on' - remotely for backplanes that support this signalling). you have to search for yourself exactly which 3.3 V contact tongue turns off the disk and needs to be taped. I found that to diffecult so i used a molex to sata adapter.Have you check in the BIOS to enable that SATA channel it's connected too? They are often disabled when no drives are connected, otherwise the BIOS gives warnings about the drive not being found.
System Name | BTXTREME |
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Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
What happened when you used a SATA power connector?Yes i checked. It was the sata power from my old Cooler master 500w. I had to use a molex to sata adapter to make it spin. It first showed up as 1123mb in HDD Regenrator but after i updated the RTS it showed up as 9314. But in my computer it shows 9.09gb., taping the 3.3V tabs on the disk's power supply connector then after a certain SATA3.x version as voltage on this can cause the disk to become completely powerless via built-in MOS-FET pulleys on the disk controller card (a deliberate 'feature' on server disks for to be able to do 'Norwegian reset' - ie 'voltage off - voltage on' - remotely for backplanes that support this signalling). you have to search for yourself exactly which 3.3 V contact tongue turns off the disk and needs to be taped. I found that to diffecult so i used a molex to sata adapter.
Never seen or even heard of such a thing. However, we're getting a bit off-topic...Lead acid batteries can explode also. If over charged they can boil off the fluid and collect Hydrogen gas inside. One spark and BOOM.
System Name | BTXTREME |
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Processor | QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme |
Motherboard | Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX |
Cooling | Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan. |
Memory | 8GB Dell DDR2@800 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5 |
Storage | Crucial M500 240GB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell 22" LCD |
Case | Dell Dimension E 520 MT |
Audio Device(s) | onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers |
Power Supply | EVGA B2 750W semi modular |
Mouse | Logitech wireless (two installed) |
Keyboard | Logitech wireless backlit |
Software | Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1 |
System Name | Dell Precision Workstation 5820 XL Tower |
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Processor | Intel Xeon W-2195 18 cores 36 threads 2,3 - 4,3GHz 25MB l3 cache 8GT/s QPI |
Motherboard | Dell 0TVW7J |
Cooling | Air |
Memory | 8x32GB (256GB) DDR4 ECC registered Samsung 2400MHz CL17 |
Video Card(s) | Manli Gallardo RTX 3080 Ti |
Storage | 10TB |
Display(s) | HyperX Armada 25 240Hz |
Case | Dell Precision 5820 XL Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Jamo Cornet 145, Technics SU-VZ320, Yamaha YST-SW80 |
Power Supply | Delta Electronics H950EF-00 950W |
Mouse | Asus ROG Chakram |
Keyboard | Asus ROG Claymore II |
Software | Window 11 Pro for Workstations x64 23H2 |
Benchmark Scores | 3D Mark Time spy 16848 |
You have awesome PC. Congrats!!!Hey all. Just picked up a 2080ti today. Got it in the 5810. Runs that card at 250 watts and my CPU at 200 watts just awesome. So far no hiccups
It did not start. I tried to scan 9.09tb with H2testw and it filled the disk with files and read them without errors. Some said it would be impossible to have a 10tb drive in my T3500 when it has 32 bit lba but it seems to work. The disk size 9.09tb is because of it counts in tebybytes, confusing. HDD Regenerator scanned the disk at 169mb/s pretty fast.What happened when you used a SATA power connector?
Never seen or even heard of such a thing. However, we're getting a bit off-topic...
Weird. What BIOS version are you on? The latest for a T3500 is A17. If you're not running that version, you should update.It did not start.
That is nonsense. I've had a 12TB drive in mine and it worked perfectly.Some said it would be impossible to have a 10tb drive in my T3500
What setting are you talking about?It should be something with LBA 32 bit only being avaible to adress 2tb and then rewrite.