ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super TUF

[Teddy1983]

If I understood correctly, it doesn't make any difference to me which bios I will use, because due to the large computer case, the graphics card behaves the same? It doesn't make sense to me this calm bios because I thought that the fans would spin slower at the expense of higher temperatures, and here it turned out to be no difference. Not that it was loud on a normal one, but just out of curiosity I turned on the calm one and was surprised by the results. Yes, on both versions of the bios the computer achieves identical results in 3D Mark, for example. Well I'm back to the normal bios. Thank you.

 

[Dr. Dro]

If I understood correctly, it doesn't make any difference to me which bios I will use, because due to the large computer case, the graphics card behaves the same? It doesn't make sense to me this calm bios because I thought that the fans would spin slower at the expense of higher temperatures, and here it turned out to be no difference. Not that it was loud on a normal one, but just out of curiosity I turned on the calm one and was surprised by the results. Yes, on both versions of the bios the computer achieves identical results in 3D Mark, for example. Well I'm back to the normal bios. Thank you.

Yeah, there is no need to worry. Enjoy your card, man. It's much better that the quiet BIOS doesn't cost you any performance or makes the hardware run hotter, it means that your setup is in great shape. Have fun!

 

[W1zzard]

why I don't see any difference in the operation of this card in terms of the bios used

You should definitely see a difference in fan RPMs. The quiet BIOS is designed to run at considerably lower RPM, no matter your ambient temp or airflow in the case

 

[wheresmycar]

"quiet BIOS" - never really used this feature. Just lower RPM or does this setting reduce power consumption too without losing too much on the performance side? Or, maybe different manufacturers implement different methods?

 

[Teddy1983]

Well, the problem is that on both settings, according to GPU-Z, the rotation of the screws is the same, e.g. around 1500 RPM. On both settings, clocks, memory, power consumption, test results are basically the same. I'm a bit surprised by it, just because I've read that on a calm card it works identically, only the fan curve is less aggressive, but because of that the temperatures are supposed to be higher. For me, the temperatures are the same. In fact, apart from comparing the two, e.g. in the 3d mark test, I can't think of any other An idea to rule out or confirm a problem with the operation of these two bioses.

 

[W1zzard]

Well, the problem is that on both settings, according to GPU-Z, the rotation of the screws is the same, e.g. around 1500 RPM. On both settings, clocks, memory, power consumption, test results are basically the same. I'm a bit surprised by it, just because I've read that on a calm card it works identically, only the fan curve is less aggressive, but because of that the temperatures are supposed to be higher. For me, the temperatures are the same. In fact, apart from comparing the two, e.g. in the 3d mark test, I can't think of any other An idea to rule out or confirm a problem with the operation of these two bioses.

Upload both BIOSes to our database and post the links here

 

[Teddy1983]

Hi. As suggested, I uploaded to the quiet bios database. It is in the process of being verified. I'm posting a link.
Kolekcja VGA Bios: Asus RTX 4070 Ti Super 16 GB | TechPowerUp
Performance bios I couldn't put in the database because someone had already posted it. Here's the link to it.
Kolekcja VGA Bios: Asus RTX 4070 Ti Super 16 GB | TechPowerUp
Thank you very much in advance for your assessment of the situation.

 

[W1zzard]

Hi. As suggested, I uploaded to the quiet bios database. It is in the process of being verified. I'm posting a link.
Kolekcja VGA Bios: Asus RTX 4070 Ti Super 16 GB | TechPowerUp
Performance bios I couldn't put in the database because someone had already posted it. Here's the link to it.
Kolekcja VGA Bios: Asus RTX 4070 Ti Super 16 GB | TechPowerUp
Thank you very much in advance for your assessment of the situation.

thanks! Here is the quiet BIOS from my review sample, give it a try: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/264941/asus-rtx4080super-16384-231123

 

[Teddy1983]

Why does this bios have 4080 super in its name? It turns out that the error because the file name matches the 4070 ti super tuf. It's been a while since I made a comparison between the two bios. I checked the one posted here by W1zzard. There is no difference e.g. in the 3d mark test. The bios coincided with the one I already had on the card, because that was the message I got. Still, I installed this one from W1zzard. You can't see the differences, so I guess that's how it should be for me. I'm also wondering if I could flash the bios from the OC version? It seems to be an identical graphics card. I thought for a moment that maybe the physical switch on the card is faulty and even though I have rearranged it, nothing changes. However, it changes, because according to GPU-Z on silent I am on bios with a 9B tip and on performance on 9C. Oh well, let's get over it. Thank you for your help. I learned how to flash the bios of a card today, the first time I did it.

 

[MisiuF1]

After some testing it looks I had on my card two quiet BIOSes from factory, after flashing performance bios that someone posted here: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/264609/asus-rtx4070tisuper-16384-231123 I can finally see difference in temperatures and RPM.

 

[BorntoPlayGJFF]

Has anyone tested if this model has coil whine? I'm waiting for Amazon to ship my order, but I'm still wondering if I made the right decision.

 

[Teddy1983]

Po kilku testach wygląda na to, że miałem na karcie dwa ciche BIOSy z fabryki, po wgraniu biosu wydajności, który ktoś tu zamieścił: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/264609/asus-rtx4070tisuper-16384-23112 w końcu widzę różnicę w temperaturach i obrotach. D

Are you absolutely sure that you had 2x silent bios by default? The silent bios is labeled as 95.03.45.00.9B and the default bios is 95.03.45.00.9C. I understand that you had on both bios switch settings labeled as 95.03.45.00.9B?

 

[W1zzard]

Why does this bios have 4080 super in its name?

My bad, I entered the wrong name.. this is really a 4070 Ti Super BIOS, I've fixed the naming

I'm also wondering if I could flash the bios from the OC version?

Yes, same card, should be fine

After some testing it looks I had on my card two quiet BIOSes from factory, after flashing performance bios that someone posted here: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/264609/asus-rtx4070tisuper-16384-231123 I can finally see difference in temperatures and RPM.

Nice. Maybe the same thing happened to @Teddy1983 ?

 

[Teddy1983]

The same thing didn't happen to me. According to GPU-Z, I have two different bios nomenclatures depending on which jumper setting I'm on. On silent it is the 9B tip and on the default it is the 9C ending. Despite several tests, I couldn't show any differences in maximum temperatures and maximum fan speeds. Same game, same time, same test and no differences. Anyway, I've already posted here illustrative screenshots from these tests. I don't know, maybe the methodology was wrong because I measured the parameters with GPU-Z where all sensors were set to Maximum. Perhaps this is the problem and some sensors, such as fans, should be set to medium score? This does not change the fact that in the case of the temperature of, for example, the core GPU, when the sensor is set to maximum, then in the case of the silent bios, the maximum temperature should be higher. Am I wrong? Maybe it's actually I have such an airy case that whether it's quiet or The default BIOS is temperatures stay the same?

 

[W1zzard]

then in the case of the silent bios, the maximum temperature should be higher

Correct

Maybe it's actually I have such an airy case that whether it's quiet or The default BIOS is temperatures stay the same?

Even on an open bench you will have different fan speed -> significantly different temps & noise

 

[MisiuF1]

I had B and C bios named correctly but they were performing the same (maximum about 1300 RPM). I flashed C bios from link above and C bios is working after that as it should (max RPM 1600-1800)

 

[MarsM4N]

EDIT: @MarsM4N any similar reports on CPU sales from 3DC/TEYT? I'm interested in seeing how Zen 4 stacks up against Zen 3 + vs 13th/14th Gen in Q4-2023. Got a link to follow up on quarterly reports?

Found something over at 3DCenter: Processor Sale Numbers November 2023 (Amazon US & Mindfactory DE)

I knew AMD is dominant here, but I didn't expect it to be so extreme. Surprising, even in the US AMD is steam rolling Intel in DIY segment.

Amazon US: 96'000 x (AMD/Intel 73:27 %)
Mindfactory: 24'649 x (AMD/Intel 97:3 %)

AMD Zen 3: ∑ 45'000 (47%) / AMD Zen 4: ∑ 25'000 (26%) / Intel: ∑ 26'000 (27%)

The overall market share looks quite different, though. (AMD: ~20% / Intel: ~80%). That's because Intel is still dominating the OEM/Office/Server market.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Found something over at 3DCenter: Processor Sale Numbers November 2023 (Amazon US & Mindfactory DE)

I knew AMD is dominant here, but I didn't expect it to be so extreme. Surprising, even in the US AMD is steam rolling Intel in DIY segment.

Amazon US: 96'000 x (AMD/Intel 73:27 %)
Mindfactory: 24'649 x (AMD/Intel 97:3 %)

AMD Zen 3: ∑ 45'000 (47%) / AMD Zen 4: ∑ 25'000 (26%) / Intel: ∑ 26'000 (27%)

The overall market share looks quite different, though. (AMD: ~20% / Intel: ~80%). That's because Intel is still dominating the OEM/Office/Server market.

Yes, like we've been trying to tell you, the numbers don't add up unless you're exclusively talking about the European market.

AMD enjoys strong DIY channel performance overall, particularly regarding processors due to the AM4 platform's very long lifecycle and vast amount of cheaply upgradable systems, but a particularly stellar performance in the European DIY market on both CPU and GPU businesses as it's extremely value sensitive and receptive to products that offer a passable experience in exchange for some savings, however little that may be. To the European consumer, every single euro counts, and this is a compromise that they are happy to make.

Haven't you noticed that people complaining about Nvidia's pricing practices almost invariably bring up the € or £ in their arguments? Hard times.

 

[MarsM4N]

Yes, like we've been trying to tell you, the numbers don't add up unless you're exclusively talking about the European market.

How don't the numbers add up? Did you miss the "Amazon US: 96'000 x (AMD/Intel 73:27 %)", Amazon US is not Europe. They clearly dominate the DIY CPU market, on either side of the ocean.

The overall market share is still in favour of Intel. Guess they have some "convincing arguments" to bind OEM customers to them.

Intel accused of bribery and coercion

Intel is being sued by the New York attorney general, accused of using disguised kickbacks to protect its market

www.theguardian.com

 

[Dr. Dro]

How don't the numbers add up? Did you miss the "Amazon US: 96'000 x (AMD/Intel 73:27 %)", Amazon US is not Europe. They clearly dominate the DIY CPU market, on either side of the ocean.

The overall market share is still in favour of Intel. Guess they have some "convincing arguments" to bind OEM customers to them.

Intel accused of bribery and coercion

Intel is being sued by the New York attorney general, accused of using disguised kickbacks to protect its market

www.theguardian.com

That article is 15 years old. The Intel and AMD of that time are nothing alike the companies of today. And like I said, DIY channel. Don't make this harder than it needs to be...

 

[wheresmycar]

Found something over at 3DCenter: Processor Sale Numbers November 2023 (Amazon US & Mindfactory DE)

I knew AMD is dominant here, but I didn't expect it to be so extreme. Surprising, even in the US AMD is steam rolling Intel in DIY segment.

Amazon US: 96'000 x (AMD/Intel 73:27 %)
Mindfactory: 24'649 x (AMD/Intel 97:3 %)

AMD Zen 3: ∑ 45'000 (47%) / AMD Zen 4: ∑ 25'000 (26%) / Intel: ∑ 26'000 (27%)

The overall market share looks quite different, though. (AMD: ~20% / Intel: ~80%). That's because Intel is still dominating the OEM/Office/Server market.

Thats really impressive!! Both the GPU and CPU stats pretty much resemble my personal thoughts on how the market should be moving considering AMD is offering more than just fast food burgers for sale. Actually i gotto come out with it, i'm heavily invested (a good chunk of savings) in AMD stocks since 2016+ even though i've spent my entire life on Intel chips and Nvidia cards. So i'm somewhat rooting for AMD to keep the slow and gradual bullish climb from subsiding. These stats add optimism at a larger mainstream scale, i wasn't aware the difference in sales units was so expansive (although not doubt Nvidia walks away with higher profit margins).

Its interesting seeing how the stats vary from both the US and EU markets (CPU/GPU sales). Im my experience (UK dweller), Nvidia products are hard to get hold of at launch and when available prices shoot up. Nvidia creates too much buzz, shorts on supplies at launch (i bet the quota doesn't favour UK/EU) and has us hanging to consider alternatives. I like to think theres more of me out there... the price conscious, not confined by any measure but just not willy nilly willing to grease Nvidia's insatiability. I've been a loyal customer for too long to be taxed inconsiderately.

Anyway liking what i'm seeing... more healthy compo WAS inevitable, just didn't expect the ripples turning to waves so quickly.

 

[Teddy1983]

I had B and C bios named correctly but they were performing the same (maximum about 1300 RPM). I flashed C bios from link above and C bios is working after that as it should (max RPM 1600-1800)

I've spent some time lately on these bios. I installed the one from the link above (9C) and the 9B from W1zzard. I even installed the normal from TUF OC version. I don't see any difference in fan speeds and temperatures. These are my observations.