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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super Founders Edition

To anyone thinking it's just the price cut:
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YES! This. cant beleive I didnt notice until I saw the article on videocardz. Why is nobody talking about this yet? Bigger deal than the extra few cuda cores IMO.
Guess it doesnt apply to those who dont buy founders though.
Reminds me of the cost cutting they did on the GTX285 compared to the GTX280 back in the day!
GTX280 one of my fav cards of all time!

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Founders Edition Review - Energy-Efficient Beast

GeForce RTX 4080 launches today and offers fantastic gaming performance at 4K, with highest details. In our RTX 4080 Founders Edition review, we confirm that NVIDIA's new $1200 card beats the last-generation flagship RTX 3090 Ti conclusively, both in performance and value.
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super Founders Edition Review - Savings of $200

NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 4080 Super introduces a noteworthy $200 price reduction compared to the non-Super 4080, placing significant pricing pressure on AMD's RX 7900 XTX. Despite this, the performance gains vs RTX 4080 non-Super are only marginal, we expected more.
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quistin said:
however dlss is a game changer because on 4k quality settings it provides an image better than the native one while increasing my fps by a whooping %20
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No, that's just a placebo due to the sharpening filter applied over.
 
The card obviously does not need those power supply phases, which have been removed.

There are people within the testing community who would notice and criticise NVidia pretty badly if the changes meant for example some larger power draw spikes, etc.
 
Prima.Vera said:
No, that's just a placebo due to the sharpening filter applied over.
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the modern over reliance on poor TAA has made DLSS look a lot better than it actually is.
 
mxthunder said:
YES! This. cant beleive I didnt notice until I saw the article on videocardz. Why is nobody talking about this yet? Bigger deal than the extra few cuda cores IMO.
Guess it doesnt apply to those who dont buy founders though.
Reminds me of the cost cutting they did on the GTX285 compared to the GTX280 back in the day!
GTX280 one of my fav cards of all time!

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Founders Edition Review - Energy-Efficient Beast

GeForce RTX 4080 launches today and offers fantastic gaming performance at 4K, with highest details. In our RTX 4080 Founders Edition review, we confirm that NVIDIA's new $1200 card beats the last-generation flagship RTX 3090 Ti conclusively, both in performance and value.
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super Founders Edition Review - Savings of $200

NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 4080 Super introduces a noteworthy $200 price reduction compared to the non-Super 4080, placing significant pricing pressure on AMD's RX 7900 XTX. Despite this, the performance gains vs RTX 4080 non-Super are only marginal, we expected more.
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Considering this mostly impacts the FE and cheapo AIB cards (the 1000-1050$, PL castrated cards) there really is very little of an effective price cut. Looks like most of cards that retain 13+3 (or higher vrm specs) are largely between $1150-$1300, which unsurprisingly is the same price as the original 4080 was selling for on most retailers
 
quistin said:
I did take several screenshots and zoomed them. I do my extensive test just to be sure. So I am confident about what i claim.
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Try to disable first any TAA, FXAA or other extremely crappy AntiAliasing settings.
 
mxthunder said:
Why is nobody talking about this yet?
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Because it's a total non-issue. The card runs fine out of the box, and it runs fine at maximum power limit + maximum OC. I've personally tested both. So congrats NVIDIA for being smart and saving money where it doesn't make any difference.

The small perf gain is not due to the board power limit, as mentioned in the review. Not sure why I've seen such a theory from several outlets when you can disprove this with 30 seconds of testing (go in-game, look at FPS, max out power limit, look at FPS)
 
One more thing: those unnecessary power phases might have been on the FE cards from the time before the final TDP of the card has been decided. The power supply circuitry may have beed designed to handle higher power draw than what was needed in the end.

BTW 4080 was/is the most efficient card and it possibly can handle much higher power draw than it has been allowed to.
 
W1zzard said:
Because it's a total non-issue. The card runs fine out of the box, and it runs fine at maximum power limit + maximum OC. I've personally tested both. So congrats NVIDIA for being smart and saving money where it doesn't make any difference.

The small perf gain is not due to the board power limit, as mentioned in the review. Not sure why I've seen such a theory from several outlets when you can disprove this with 30 seconds of testing (go in-game, look at FPS, max out power limit, look at FPS)
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Not saying its an issue at all, I just find it fascinating the choices that nvidia makes and want to understand the reasons behind all of them. Was the original 4080 overbuilt? is the silicon better in some way that does not require as many phases? are they just trying to make up the $200 price difference? etc.
That is more interesting to talk about than the performance, as it turns out, this time around.
 
mxthunder said:
is the silicon better in some way that does not require as many phases?
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Ding, ding! NVidia has a lot of binned dies that perform better without as much power. They couldn't just re-release the 4080(and the other models) with new specs. Bean-counters and nitpickers would be in an uproar. So? SUPERS!!

These new models are more refined, better binned versions of the existing models. It's really that simple. It's also not new. They, and everyone else in tech, has been doing this kind of thing for decades.
 
Anyone else than me who got their hands on a 4080S FE, that have a constant low sounding coilwhine on thier card, like even when idle in windows?
Ive tried undervolting and stuff but nothing changes. And yes its the GPU not the PSU.
I have almost no coilwhine in OW2, but quite a lot in "A plagues tale".
But some coilwhine while gaming is expected, but not in windows.... Its not loud at all, but its hearable, and you hear it constantly when computer is just on.
Thinking of maybe replacing the GPU with a Gigabyte model instead, i can get one of those the non OC model for the same MSRP price.
 
Is this the worst super card ever released? It's almost like an undercut super version.
 
What is Nvidia going to do with all those less than perfect 4090 dies? Are they going to release 4080 Ti ?
 
3valatzy said:
Why warrant the "Super" tag?
Vote with your wallets. Maybe if the stock remains untouched on the shelves, they will discount it more.
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It doesn't, but the price is way better and people will buy it up, the 4090 is too expensive now for most people. Before it was like 1200 vs 1600, now it's way worse, about 1100 vs 1800-1900 (where I live), so there's no alternative (from Nvidia) unless you're willing to pay up 700-800 extra bucks for 25-30% extra performance.

If you want to save a bit of money, probably the most interesting alternative is RX 7900 XT, which currently sells for $710, but is considerably slower, which means lower detail settings or upscaling, but there's no DLSS on the card to help with that.
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Why does the author pretend there's no FSR? Weird. XTX costs about 950 where I live, the 4080 S is 1100, so there's something to consider, and the 4080 vanilla is still very expensive at over 1200 at the shop I looked at. No it won't come down in pricing, and why should it? It isn't any slower than the competing cards of the segment. It will stay rock solid at the same price point + the premium of the cooler on top, so not much movement at all.
 
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What is Nvidia going to do with all those less than perfect 4090 dies? Are they going to release 4080 Ti ?
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Compare the 4090's core count to the full AD102 silicon and you will answer your own question.
 
Lew Zealand said:
Compare the 4090's core count to the full AD102 silicon and you will answer your own question.
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the hypothetical 4080 Ti with 14080 cores was prioritized as quadro RTX 5880.
 
mxthunder said:
Not saying its an issue at all, I just find it fascinating the choices that nvidia makes and want to understand the reasons behind all of them. Was the original 4080 overbuilt? is the silicon better in some way that does not require as many phases? are they just trying to make up the $200 price difference? etc.
That is more interesting to talk about than the performance, as it turns out, this time around.
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Without public information we can just speculate

It's the same GPU silicon, look at the date on my FE sample GPU, it's from 2022. The power consumption profile is very similar, too, based on the data in my review, which leads me to the conclusion that the 4080 was overbuilt indeed in terms of VRM. Maybe NV implemented some microcode improvements to how power spikes are handled, which lowers the VRM requirements.

"make up for the difference" or "increase the margins" is the same thing for the engineers, pick the narrative you prefer. At the end of the day NV shareholders are paying the employees to increase their profits, so it makes a lot of sense to make the product cheaper to fabricate, especially if there's apparently no drawback.
 
These were in stock for 2 hours yesterday (for the NV USA store). I was initially planning to get the 4070 Ti Super but after reviews -> nah at $800 just step up to the 4080S, but it's 320W, I was thinking to lower watts and gpu cost -> oh wow look at how low power the budget 4060 Ti is -> sanity check, the 4070S is a more sane and balanced choice -> huh look at that, the 4080S FE is in stock.

I wasn't going to buy anything, but I realized my current card is 2+ years old, and can still be resold for a decent price.
 
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