Do I need to be repasted? I'm a Gigabyte RTX 2070 SUPER. My symptoms are: I become very loud here and where with some games, not all games.

[Onasi]

What I did do at some point was reduce the power target to 90%. As others stated... it barely costs performance, but it probably extends the life of the card and cooling by multiple years.

Yeah, seeing as how they run the same chip and lowering the power target would put the 1080 around the level of 1070 in terms of wattage that would track. And an MSI too, just like mine. Seems like their cooling that gen was really solid.

Anyway, I scoured the net a bit and found something curious. Seems Gigabyte did use some fairly crappy paste on the 20-series cards of theirs and there are several reports of them drying out. Also, the thermal pads they used on that gen are also somewhat fragile and prone to tearing on disassembly, so… do with that information what you will.

 

[Dragam1337]

Hello my Cuties.



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Yes, it needs a repaste... a delta of 23c between core temp and hotspot heavily suggests that the majority of thermal paste has been pumped out and / or dried out.

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah, seeing as how they run the same chip and lowering the power target would put the 1080 around the level of 1070 in terms of wattage that would track. And an MSI too, just like mine. Seems like their cooling that gen was really solid.

Anyway, I scoured the net a bit and found something curious. Seems Gigabyte did use some fairly crappy paste on the 20-series cards of theirs and there are several reports of them drying out. Also, the thermal pads they used on that gen are also somewhat fragile and prone to tearing on disassembly, so… do with that information what you will.

Sounds like Gigabyte being GB.

I had a 780ti from Gigabyte that wouldn't boost past 1 Ghz and would throttle within 5 years of its release. Likely a similar poor paste job.

 

[Onasi]

@Vayra86
Yeah, it so happens that almost all my cards were MSI for more than two decades now and I have no complaints. The only exceptions were a GTX 570 from Zotac which was loud-ish, but otherwise fine and a 5870 from Sapphire which was also perfectly fine. Oh, and 770 from EVGA which, surprisingly, wasn’t great in terms of cooling or thermals. I do tend to hear quite a lot of negative noise about Gigabytes cards stretching all the way to early Windforce coolers.

 

[Vayra86]

@Vayra86
Yeah, it so happens that almost all my cards were MSI for more than two decades now and I have no complaints. The only exceptions were a GTX 570 from Zotac which was loud-ish, but otherwise fine and a 5870 from Sapphire which was also perfectly fine. Oh, and 770 from EVGA which, surprisingly, wasn’t great in terms of cooling or thermals. I do tend to hear quite a lot of negative noise about Gigabytes cards stretching all the way to early Windforce coolers.

Gigabyte is pretty much guaranteed to have one or a few duds in every year of product releases. Its like they make an effort to fail at least somewhere.

And then there's the RMA horror stories. I am not buying anything from them anymore. Even the monitor I have isn't perfect, one backlight's brighter, so uniformity is fucked. I had a mobo from them arriving with one doa ram slot (2013). As a matter of fact, I don't think anything Gigabyte I've bought was actually problem free entirely.

 

[Dragam1337]

Sounds like Gigabyte being GB.

I had a 780ti from Gigabyte that wouldn't boost past 1 Ghz and would throttle within 5 years of its release. Likely a similar poor paste job.

Yep, my gigabyte 4090 gaming oc had a super poor paste job aswell, with part of the die having no paste... meaning hotspot delta was more than 20c and reaching nearly 100c...

Repaste got delta down to 10c...

Gigabyte is pretty much guaranteed to have one or a few duds in every year of product releases. Its like they make an effort to fail at least somewhere.

And then there's the RMA horror stories. I am not buying anything from them anymore. Even the monitor I have isn't perfect, one backlight's brighter, so uniformity is fucked. I had a mobo from them arriving with one doa ram slot (2013). As a matter of fact, I don't think anything Gigabyte I've bought was actually problem free entirely.

I bought a range of 4090s, to find one without coilwhine... and gigabyte was ironically the only ones without coilwhine.

So i lived with the fact that i had to repaste it.

But yeah, previously i wouldn't ever had bought gigabyte either. But for some reason the big players (asus in particular) are doing nothing to prevent coilwhine it seems, and their 4090s SCREAMS like pigs...

 

[Vya Domus]

But yeah, previously i wouldn't ever had bought gigabyte either. But for some reason the big players (asus in particular) are doing nothing to prevent coilwhine it seems, and their 4090s SCREAMS like pigs...

There is not much they can do about that, the type of inductors that don't make as much noise are of worse quality.

I don't know of a single brand/model that just never has coilwhine.

 

[Onasi]

I don't know of a single brand/model that just never has coilwhine.

It’s inconsistent too. My current 1070 has never had any whine in all its years in any circumstances… except for the main menu of FF XIV. I don’t know why. It’s not even running high frames there, just what the GSync refresh ceiling is, which in my case is 165. No other game displays such behavior. It’s a mystery.

 

[Vayra86]

It’s inconsistent too. My current 1070 has never had any whine in all its years in any circumstances… except for the main menu of FF XIV. I don’t know why. It’s not even running high frames there, just what the GSync refresh ceiling is, which in my case is 165. No other game displays such behavior. It’s a mystery.

Well its a fact it happens only (on a half decent gpu) at framerates well above 90-100. And even there it can actually be present, just inaudible or drowned out by fan noise. Electronics all make some soundwaves. No mystery involved. Power makes noise apparently

 

[krlezehhhhh]

I wouldn't worry about repasting the GPU if you're not comfortable with it. Taking them apart, usually isn't, but can be a little tricky if you're not familiar with it. Also, you have to be careful because I've seen thermal pads get ripped apart when taking a GPU apart (it's not common, but cheap ones can do this) so you may want to have replacement pads available just in case. I'm not sure what size(s) you would need, but they could be .5mm to 1.5mm in thickness.

The last GPU I repasted was my 980Ti (after 5 years of owning it). The ONLY reason I did it was because I was hoping a complete cleaning would resolve an underlying issue of random fan spin ups where the fans on the GPU would spike to 100% for a couple of seconds for no reason. According to temp monitoring software no temps got close 90C, but I thought if there was a small possibility this might fix the issue that I should give it a try. I replaced all the thermal pads, completely cleaned off the heatsink and fans on the shroud and repasted. When all was said and done temps on the card were pretty much identical to what they were before and the random fan spin ups still happened.

I would suggest that if you want to clean off the card itself, that's probably going to be more helpful over repasting it. Remove the card from your system and clean everything off well.

With my 3080Ti I've set the power limit on it with MSI Afterburner to 75%. I think it's about a 10% performance loss over letting run with 100% power. I run everything great on my 1440p resolution. Dropping the power draw isn't going to limit the performance much (maybe 5% drop) if you bring it down to 85-90%.

Also, make sure the rest of your system is clean and it's getting proper air flow. If your case fans are dirty or case filters are clogged with dirt it'll reduce air flow and also cause temps to get higher than they should be.

i checked the gpu fans, clean. ofc there is spaghetti cable chaos inside tower.

can i stack 1mm pad on top of each other? i dont wanna spend 30 euro for 4 different thickness. https://de.ifixit.com/Anleitung/Gigabyte+GeForce+RTX+2070+Super:+Ersetzen+der+Wärmeleitpads-+und+paste/167996

gpu: GV-N207SGAMING OC-8GD

EDIT: i need 4 different thicknesses. thats 40 euro if arctis tp3

 

[neatfeatguy]

i checked the gpu fans, clean. ofc there is spaghetti cable chaos inside tower.

can i stack 1mm pad on top of each other? i dont wanna spend 30 euro for 4 different thickness. https://de.ifixit.com/Anleitung/Gigabyte+GeForce+RTX+2070+Super:+Ersetzen+der+Wärmeleitpads-+und+paste/167996

gpu: GV-N207SGAMING OC-8GD

EDIT: i need 4 different thicknesses. thats 40 euro if arctis tp3

I personally never stacked any pads, so I'm not sure how effective it is or if it causes any issues. Searching online you get people saying it shouldn't be a problem and others saying it could cause problems. I haven't found any real definite answer.

 

[Dragam1337]

i checked the gpu fans, clean. ofc there is spaghetti cable chaos inside tower.

can i stack 1mm pad on top of each other? i dont wanna spend 30 euro for 4 different thickness. https://de.ifixit.com/Anleitung/Gigabyte+GeForce+RTX+2070+Super:+Ersetzen+der+Wärmeleitpads-+und+paste/167996

gpu: GV-N207SGAMING OC-8GD

EDIT: i need 4 different thicknesses. thats 40 euro if arctis tp3

Don't replace pads - just be careful when you dissamble the cooler, and you can easily reuse them.

It's really just the gpu die you want to repaste.

 

[krlezehhhhh]

after repasting gpu. pads were perfect. nothing torn.

 

[Shrek]

after 3ish years even good paste will start to dry out.

Silicone oil is good to 500°F (260°C), so I would expect little drying out (pump out is another issue).

 

[Dragam1337]

after repasting gpu. pads were perfect. nothing torn.
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Great improvement - well done

 

[krlezehhhhh]

Wraith cooler. Cpu sticks to cooler. Cpu looks healthy. Yes, I warmed it up to 80c before taking off.
What now?

 

[Dragam1337]

Wraith cooler. Cpu sticks to cooler. Cpu looks healthy. Yes, I warmed it up to 80c before taking off.
What now?




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Use a razor to carefully cut it off in the way too thick TIM layer.

 

[Veseleil]

Wraith cooler. Cpu sticks to cooler. Cpu looks healthy. Yes, I warmed it up to 80c before taking off.
What now?




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Just pry it off with something. BTW, loving the macro shots.

 

[3x0]

Wraith cooler. Cpu sticks to cooler. Cpu looks healthy. Yes, I warmed it up to 80c before taking off.

I managed to detach it by pouring some 99% alcohol in the grooves where the copper heatpipes meet, leave it for a few minutes then lightly twist the CPU by hand. Should come off without any damage, razors are unnecessary and could scratch. Do not pull upwards by using excessive force, I almost managed to delid the CPU that way

 

[krlezehhhhh]

I managed to detach it by pouring some 99% alcohol in the grooves where the copper heatpipes meet, leave it for a few minutes then lightly twist the CPU by hand. Should come off without any damage, razors are unnecessary and could scratch

How?
The isopropanol will leak into fan electronics?

 

[3x0]

The isopropanol will leak into fan electronics?

No, on the copper surface that's in contact with the CPU. Clean the excess thermal paste around the CPU with a q-tip, then pour the alcohol.

 

[krlezehhhhh]

No, on the copper surface that's in contact with the CPU. Clean the excess thermal paste around the CPU with a q-tip, then pour the alcohol.

U saying I should turn the whole thing with cpu pins downwards and then spraying iso so that it falls down in tween the cooper ridges?

 

[Dragam1337]

U saying I should turn the whole thing with cpu pins downwards and then spraying iso so that it falls down in tween the cooper ridges?

Don't do that - just cut through the tim with a razor, as i wrote.

 

[krlezehhhhh]

Impossible to get razor into this?

 

[3x0]

U saying I should turn the whole thing with cpu pins downwards and then spraying iso so that it falls down in tween the cooper ridges?

No, obviously that would be stupid.