is radeon RX 6750 XT a steal ?

[oxrufiioxo]

Yeah 400 usd/euro for an 8GB card regardless of use case is dumb. Has nothing to do with 8GB being enough/not enough just spending that on an 8GB card somthing that has been a thing on budget cards for over a half decade at this point sucks.

Sad that literally the worse Nvidia gpu in I can't remember how long maybe since the 900 series is being recommended.....

Save up for something less crap or you'll be back here in a couple years asking what you should upgrade to again unless that is the goal swap budget trash every two years.

 

[soundzen]

why are gpu RX x800 and RTX xx80 are so hard to find here and so expensive? i dont fancy a used model, sorry

 

[Denver]

Don't buy the 6700/6750XT at that awful price. Get the 7700XT/7800X/4070.

4060ti is garbage in this price range, not a single person on the planet should buy it.

 

[soundzen]

ok, thats why im keeping the RX 6750 XT on my list also... but im not stretching to 500 Euros.

no RX ? common, im on a budget here !

 

[Kyan]

On pc part picker it seems that a RX 6800 is available for 450€ (it's at 390€ in amazon france, you can maybe buy it from there too).
XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (RX-68XLAQFD9) - PCPartPicker
It's the most efficient gpu from last gen. You will be okay for 5 years if you stick to 1080p 60Hz. I may be wrong and it can be too high for you. It's just what I've find with a quick search.

Here's the first result with a 10GB VRAM filter and portugal price

 

[Vya Domus]

How much more expensive is a 7700XT ? They should not be that far apart.

 

[Denver]

I'm not familiar with popular component stores in Portugal, but in a quick search I saw that the RX 7700XT is at a similar price, around €440-460.

 

[#22]

Why not to consider 4060 Ti 16GB? It's one of the all time favourite cards to hate for few reasons, but I would like to see here some good points against it. Not idiots hating.

If we agree that Radeons can't be considered as cards for AAA gaming due to lack of RT performance and poor upscaler, we are left with Nvidia's offer. If not counting 8GB cards, there's only 3060 12GB and 4060 Ti 16GB left in more affordable category. There's also Intel, but rather still can't be consider reliable.

EDIT: @Denver @Kyan If you laugh from my comment, explain it. Just clicking things to manifest something with avoiding confrontation is for losers

 

[Kyan]

Why not to consider 4060 Ti 16GB? It's one of the all time favourite cards to hate for few reasons, but I would like to see here some good points against it. Not idiots hating.

If we agree that Radeons can't be considered as cards for AAA gaming due to lack of RT performance and poor upscaler, we are left with Nvidia's offer. If not counting 8GB cards, there's only 3060 12GB and 4060 Ti 16GB left in more affordable category. There's also Intel, but rather still can't be consider reliable.

EDIT: @Denver @Kyan If you laugh from my comment, explain it. Just clicking things to manifest something with avoiding confrontation is for losers

RX 6800 is at the same price as the cheapest 4060 Ti 16GB, have better rastering performance (~20 more fps from tech power up 4060Ti 16GB review). 4060 Ti 16GB have 14% better efficiency and got more feature. It's not attrotious but it's still not something I will consider since I don't care about DLSS, RTX. Maybe CUDA a bit since I've test 1-2 thing AI related and my R5 3600 or 6750XT don't seem to like it

 

[Dr. Dro]

Why not to consider 4060 Ti 16GB? It's one of the all time favourite cards to hate for few reasons, but I would like to see here some good points against it. Not idiots hating.

If we agree that Radeons can't be considered as cards for AAA gaming due to lack of RT performance and poor upscaler, we are left with Nvidia's offer. If not counting 8GB cards, there's only 3060 12GB and 4060 Ti 16GB left in more affordable category. There's also Intel, but rather still can't be consider reliable.

EDIT: @Denver @Kyan If you laugh from my comment, explain it. Just clicking things to manifest something with avoiding confrontation is for losers

They'll happily recommend the 7600 XT, but when it comes to the 4060 Ti 16 GB... Like I said, >8 GB of VRAM is utterly unnecessary for the OP's use case.

ok, thats why im keeping the RX 6750 XT on my list also... but im not stretching to 500 Euros.

no RX ? common, im on a budget here !

Radeon doesn't necessarily translate to budget. Tech forums such as these are incredibly biased towards Radeon due to a fandom and some false sense of morality (they consider AMD a lesser evil and outright hate NVIDIA because of their stance on proprietary software and the fact they do charge a lot for their hardware at the upper end), it's rubbish you shouldn't listen to - and people generally don't, given their market share is back to single digits again. My recommendation to you stays the RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB, in particular that small dual fan MSI card. It's cheap, by far the most power efficient, supports every single one of NVIDIA's cool techs and is eligible for the studio driver branch, which is more productivity-focused and favors stability. It'll likely be receiving drivers in 2034, too...

An alternative is the RX 7600 XT, as I see it should be available at the 390 euro range. It is considerably worse than the 4060 Ti in the power efficiency front and does not perform as well, but it does meet your criteria for >8 GB, if you insist on that. Don't count on AMD's feature support or drivers being a consistent experience, however. They aren't.

Sapphire Radeon RX 7600 XT Pulse Review

The Sapphire Radeon RX 7600 XT Pulse is priced at the AMD MSRP of $330, offering 16 GB of VRAM for future-proofing. It comes equipped with an excellent dual-slot cooler, providing good noise levels and temperatures.

www.techpowerup.com

RX 6800 is at the same price as the cheapest 4060 Ti 16GB, have better rastering performance (~20 more fps from tech power up 4060Ti 16GB review). 4060 Ti 16GB have 14% better efficiency and got more feature. It's not attrotious but it's still not something I will consider since I don't care about DLSS, RTX. Maybe CUDA a bit since I've test 1-2 thing AI related and my R5 3600 or 6750XT don't seem to like it

OP has a mini case. The RX 6800 is an obsolete GPU and far from the recommendation that should be done here. It is extremely power inefficient in comparison to the RTX 4060 Ti, and it's not even 5% faster.

The killer that makes the RX 6800 utterly worthless as a proposition for an SFF is that its V-Sync 60 Hz power consumption is 208% higher. OP has explicitly stated that 1080p 60Hz gaming is one of the primary objectives of the upgrade.

Also utterly delusional if you even remotely think an RX 6800 has 5 years left on it with any meaningful degree of performance. The 7900 XTX doesn't, and neither does the 4080 Super.

 

[Kyan]

Also utterly delusional if you even remotely think an RX 6800 has 5 years left on it with any meaningful degree of performance. The 7900 XTX doesn't, and neither does the 4080 Super.

saying that the 6800 in 1080p 60Hz will not be able to run games in decent condition is really delusionnal. Same for the 4080S, it will be a good gpu for more than 3 years for sure, I've stick to my 1060 in 1440p till 2022. It's really just a matter of what you consider correct in term of experience and "quality" (only visualy) game you play.

OP has a mini case. The RX 6800 is an obsolete GPU and far from the recommendation that should be done here. It is extremely power inefficient in comparison to the RTX 4060 Ti, and it's not even 5% faster.

The killer that makes the RX 6800 utterly worthless as a proposition for an SFF is that its V-Sync 60 Hz power consumption is 208% higher. OP has explicitly stated that 1080p 60Hz gaming is one of the primary objectives of the upgrade.

Ok, my bad here, I always skip this stats but I should have think of it for OP's use case. But i will add that the case is not that small

 

[dgianstefani]

They'll happily recommend the 7600 XT, but when it comes to the 4060 Ti 16 GB... Like I said, >8 GB of VRAM is utterly unnecessary for the OP's use case.



Radeon doesn't necessarily translate to budget. Tech forums such as these are incredibly biased towards Radeon due to a fandom and some false sense of morality (they consider AMD a lesser evil and outright hate NVIDIA because of their stance on proprietary software and the fact they do charge a lot for their hardware at the upper end), it's rubbish you shouldn't listen to - and people generally don't, given their market share is back to single digits again. My recommendation to you stays the RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB, in particular that small dual fan MSI card. It's cheap, by far the most power efficient, supports every single one of NVIDIA's cool techs and is eligible for the studio driver branch, which is more productivity-focused and favors stability. It'll likely be receiving drivers in 2034, too...

An alternative is the RX 7600 XT, as I see it should be available at the 390 euro range. It is considerably worse than the 4060 Ti in the power efficiency front and does not perform as well, but it does meet your criteria for >8 GB, if you insist on that. Don't count on AMD's feature support or drivers being a consistent experience, however. They aren't.

Sapphire Radeon RX 7600 XT Pulse Review

The Sapphire Radeon RX 7600 XT Pulse is priced at the AMD MSRP of $330, offering 16 GB of VRAM for future-proofing. It comes equipped with an excellent dual-slot cooler, providing good noise levels and temperatures.

www.techpowerup.com

OP has a mini case. The RX 6800 is an obsolete GPU and far from the recommendation that should be done here. It is extremely power inefficient in comparison to the RTX 4060 Ti, and it's not even 5% faster.

The killer that makes the RX 6800 utterly worthless as a proposition for an SFF is that its V-Sync 60 Hz power consumption is 208% higher. OP has explicitly stated that 1080p 60Hz gaming is one of the primary objectives of the upgrade.

Also utterly delusional if you even remotely think an RX 6800 has 5 years left on it with any meaningful degree of performance. The 7900 XTX doesn't, and neither does the 4080 Super.

Well said.

Lots of selective reading comprehension it seems.

OP plays at 1080p 60 Hz

Realistically, if OP has 600 euros, try to find a 4070 or a 4060 Ti 8/16 GB.

Neither of those cards will have issue with the 550 W Seasonic PSU he currently has.

6750XT/6800 however...

The VRAM argument is completely and utterly moot. Even at 1440p, the 4060 Ti 8 GB does not have issues in TPU game testing.

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GeForce RTX 4060 Ti comes with a 8 GB VRAM buffer—same as last generation's RTX 3060 Ti. There have been heated discussions claiming that 8 GB is already "obsolete," I've even seen people say that about 12 GB. While it would be nice of course to have more VRAM on the RTX 4060 Ti, for the vast majority of games, especially at resolutions like 1080p, having more VRAM will make exactly zero difference. While there are a handful of games in our test suite that show a loss in performance compared to the 16 GB card, even at 1080p, the remaining thousands of games will be perfectly fine. I think it's not unreasonable for buyers in this price-sensitive segment to to set textures to High instead of Ultra, for two or three titles. If you still want more memory, then NVIDIA has you covered. The RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB is available at $450 (or +$50), but I don't think the performance gains are big enough to justify the cost increase.

85 minimum FPS.

So, 25 FPS above OP's refresh rate for the 1% lows.

Even at 1440p it's above 60...

 

[soundzen]

as a noob and amateur player on 1080, i observe this forum gpu database, compare its performance ranking, the vram on gpu and its price online... always had nvidia but im opened for amd.

 

[dgianstefani]

as a noob and amateur player on 1080, i observe this forum gpu database, compare its performance ranking, the vram on gpu and its price online... always had nvidia but im opened for amd.

Well if you're happy with no DLAA and double the power draw for 10 more FPS -95 instead of 85 at 1080p, when you're running 60 Hz anyway so everything above 60 is kinda pointless...

And yes, I mean double.

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www.techpowerup.com

You can literally even turn on RT in many games and still hit near 60 FPS, with DLSS that's above 60 easy, before even taking into account FG.

These are on ultra settings too.

• All games are set to their highest quality setting unless indicated otherwise.

 

[soundzen]

thanks again guys but please no arguments, im so stressed already to hold on to my leftovers budget till september after paying irs in august if my calculations were correct.

 

[Vya Domus]

for 10 more FPS -95 instead of 85 at 1080p, when you're running 60 Hz anyway so everything above 60 is kinda pointless...

Stop pretending all current or future games will just magically always need the same GPU power for 60hz. Or the same amount of VRAM for that matter.

 

[dgianstefani]

Stop pretending all current or future games will just magically always need the same GPU power for 60hz. Or the same amount of VRAM for that matter.

Here we go...

Yes, I'm sure paying more money for a previous generation card that's a whole 13% faster in raster, with much higher power draw, and no support for current technologies is a better choice, because apparently it's more "future proof" because the VRAM number is higher...

From W1zz's 4070 reviews.

AMD RX 7800 XT also has 16 GB VRAM, but in most games it still loses to the 12 GB 4070 Super. AMD's newest card, the RX 7900 GRE offers 16 GB, too, but can't fundamentally improve the gaming experience over the RTX 4070 Super, despite the bigger VRAM size, and especially not at ray tracing.

lmao.

 

[#22]

RX 6800 is at the same price as the cheapest 4060 Ti 16GB, have better rastering performance (~20 more fps from tech power up 4060Ti 16GB review). 4060 Ti 16GB have 14% better efficiency and got more feature. It's not attrotious but it's still not something I will consider since I don't care about DLSS, RTX. Maybe CUDA a bit since I've test 1-2 thing AI related and my R5 3600 or 6750XT don't seem to like it

Start with playing with framerate limiter and see how much of a difference makes ~20% fps. Imo from 15% we can start argue that you could see the difference when do such testing, so trying hard to notice. In real life gaming it would be easily above 20% if only not lost by rapid framerate drop.

You don't care about DLSS, because you use Radeon. FSR looks bad and it's like that for years. Last time I tried FSR was launch day Starfield. Preferred to turn it off and be happy with dropping below 60 fps. But I keep up with upscalers analyses, so know well from theory and practice.

With RT you couldn't see much with 6750XT - it's similar to 3050's level of RT performance, so suitable only for screen shots. My opinion about RT comes from having RT/DLSS capable gear from the start. Both started bad, but since I played original Metro Exodus damn five years ago, I have no doubts in graphical impact of RT to the point of simply noticing it's lack in games not including. Graphics won't move forward relying on traditional techniques usually executed ugly. And graphics are not only about eye candy, but also immersion heavily relies on it, so now you don't care about both.

That's how your opinion and mine compare, so anybody can weigh their values

 

[dgianstefani]

thanks again guys but please no arguments, im so stressed already to hold on to my leftovers budget till september after paying irs in august if my calculations were correct.

You've got a decent system, you don't need to worry about buying a new PSU or anything else. Just grab a GPU upgrade and enjoy.

You've even got 32 GB RAM so that's not holding you back either.

In future, if you need to (I doubt it if you're playing at 60 Hz), you've got the option of upgrading to a cheap drop in Raptor Lake CPU.

 

[soundzen]

no i will never play those modern games tested by forum, most are shooters which i deslike... im into skyrim, the elder scrolls, enshrouded type of survival farming open world discovery more slow paced peaceful games LOL --- i will upgrade my psu to 750 or 850 with 100~130€ ive kept alongside 400 for gpu is my 550w not enough

 

[dgianstefani]

no i will never play those modern games tested by forum, most are shooters which i deslike... im into skyrim, the elder scrolls, enshrouded type of survival farming open world discovery kind of game --- i will upgrade my psu to 750 or 850 with 100~130€ ive kept alongside 400 for gpu is my 550w not enough

Why do you feel the need to spend ~$100 on a PSU? It's not necessary.

For Skyrim with a lot of mods, it can be helpful to have more VRAM, it's one of the few examples of games that stand out as actually benefitting from more VRAM over a generally faster card (there isn't necessarily a correlation between VRAM and speed, 4070S being faster than the 7800/7900GRE is an example of this).

So, if you do play with mods, consider going for the 4060 Ti 16 GB or the 4070, and you will not need a new PSU for either of those cards.

Minimum recommended PSU: 350 W

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If you go for a RX 6800, you will need a stronger PSU.

 

[Vya Domus]

Yes, I'm sure paying more money for a previous generation card that's a whole 13% faster in raster, with much higher power draw, and no support for current technologies is a better choice, because apparently it's more "future proof" because the VRAM number is higher...

I didn't even explicitly said he should buy a 6750XT, 400 euro for an 8GB card is abhorent and there are in fact games where performance craters if you don't have more than 8GB.

That's why I said he should rather get a used 3080 if he's dead set on an Nvidia card, stop being such a giga fanboy for no reason.

 

[soundzen]

everyone relax take a deep breath and tell me "good luck now piss off" LOL thanks all

 

[dgianstefani]

I didn't even explicitly said he should buy a 6750XT, 400 euro for an 8GB card is abhorent and there are in fact games where performance craters if you don't have more than 8GB.

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That's why I said he should rather get a used 3080 if he's dead set on an Nvidia card, stop being such a giga fanboy for no reason.

Any actual reasoning to this statement considering OP plays old games in 1080p 60Hz?

Or is it just "8 GB = bad" logic and anyone who disagrees is a "giga fanboy"...

Buying a power hungry 3080 used for a similar price as a new 4060 Ti 8 GB for a whole 2 GB extra VRAM is... questionable logic.

everyone relax take a deep breath and tell me "good luck now piss off" LOL thanks all

Thanks for the nice picture

Quite relaxed, just making sure self professed "noobs" go away with good evidence based advice.

Stop pretending all current or future games will just magically always need the same GPU power for 60hz. Or the same amount of VRAM for that matter.

no i will never play those modern games tested by forum, most are shooters which i deslike... im into skyrim, the elder scrolls, enshrouded type of survival farming open world discovery more slow paced peaceful games LOL --- i will upgrade my psu to 750 or 850 with 100~130€ ive kept alongside 400 for gpu is my 550w not enough

So no, a 1440p, Ray Tracing benchmark in a 2024 game known to be demanding is irrelevant to someone who plays at 1080p 60 Hz in older games and who has stated he doesn't care about RT.

 

[Denver]

I don't have enough time in this life to argue with angry children talking about RT on low-end GPUs, just seeing them roll out the long list of "bad and irrelevant things" to talk bad about AMD and distort the topic already makes me feel ashamed.

The best GPU you can buy in this price range is the 7700XT, period. But if you're not that demanding and only play old games like Skyrim, any modern GPU will do, even the 3060 12GB/7600.