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XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX Magnetic Air

Magnetic Fans? I have a few Corsair fans with Magnetic Levitation and they are as quiet as a kitten.
 
Here in the wild we see the typical AMD GPU fanboy. The fanboy, when confronted with the truth of how AMD's consumers GPUs are poorer on a performance-per-watt level than their competition, desperately defends the honour of their favourite company by moving the goalposts to talk about the competition's non-consumer GPUs. Simultaneously, the fanboy screams "NGEEEEDIA" while soiling itself, retreating while hurling its feces at the perceived threat. Back in the safety of its mother's basement, the fanboy masturbates furiously to its collection of posters of AMD's long-dead mascot Ruby, an R9 Nano clutched in one hand and its genitals in the other.
They say when someone insults someone else they are really fearful of that quality found in themself.
 
You're contradicting yourself. If you absolutely refuse to use any of the AMD HYPR-RX features such as Anti-Lag+ or Fluid Motion Frames then I might throw you a bone here, but otherwise, I'm calling out on those being things that were "lame, phony or whatever" until AMD added because NVIDIA had them and their user base demanded this feature parity (which isn't achieved because AMD's technologies are of inferior quality). That they're open-source and platform-agnostic only enabled GeForce owners to make use of them, too... not that they would, I haven't seen a single person picking FSR 2.2 when DLSS is available, and with DirectSR (single implementation), it's guaranteed that all games that support super resolution features will now ship with a combination of FSR 2.2 + other technologies by DirectX metacommand, with minimal development time.
I do not use any of those, since they are not working in ChimeraOS, which is where my 7900 xtx is.

Sadly, these days were are ok in going the lock-in route, thus limiting our options for the future and placing us at the vendor’s mercy. Just ask the loyal Ngreedia customers how dlss new features required a 40 series gpu.
 
This is definitely a cool product but I would hesitate to call it commercially viable given the extra cost. It really doesn't perform that much better than a standard XTX without overclocking the hell out of it. I have to admit that a 13% increase in performance from a non-liquid-cooled video card overclock is one of, if not the, best that I've ever seen but there's always these questions to ask:

1) How many people would be willing to pay more for this than any other RX 7900 XTX or, for that matter an RTX 4080 Super? (I wouldn't)
2) How many people realistically overclock their video cards? (I don't)
3) How many people will care about easily removing fans from their video card? (I don't)
4) How much of a difference will there be between this card when overclocked as opposed to any other XTX when overclocked? (Probably not much)
5) Is the ~40W difference between this and any other RX 7900 XTX enough to matter to most people? (It doesn't matter to me)

Now, I'm only looking at it from my own perspective, comparing it to my own ASRock RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming OC. It's very possible that many people would be interested in the Mercury Magnetic Air, but I don't see that being the case. I think that if people are looking to spend $1,000 on a video card today, the RTX 4080 Super would be their most likely choice since the PNY Verto is $50 less at $950.

Yes, but not like this. These are removable/replaceable. This feature makes replacing them with fans that have different blade profiles an easy job. It also means that cleaning the fans and the heatsink is a MUCH easier situation.
It is a much easier job, sure, but let's be honest, how often is it needed? My video cards are all pretty much pristine and I have never had to clean them.
Sure, but I can control when to install them, so it aligns with my full retests every few months. Definitely no plans to add any always online game. My life is complicated enough already
They're also kinda pointless because online games are always designed to be playable with the lowest-end hardware possible to maximise the number of potential customers. They're completely irrelevant when examining top-end cards like the RX 7900 XTX. I think that the highest-end card for which online gaming could be even slightly relevant would be the RX 7800 XT and even then, the overwhelming majority of online games could be completely maxxed-out by an RX 7700 XT or RTX 4070.

The only thing that you really learn from testing online games with top-tier video cards is whether or not the game engine has a frame cap. :laugh:

But yes, none of all the gpus i had, ever needed a replacement fan.
Neither have I, and I have working video cards that date back to 2008 and earlier. Even my ancient Palit GeForce 8500 GT with it's single dinky little fan works perfectly:
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Nice review @W1zzard, but wait, does this actually mean that somebody, anybody, is attempting to introduce a feature that is even remotely innovative.... oh my, how dare they.:fear:..:eek:
I'm all for innovation but innovation for the sake of it is a waste of time and resources. Having "easy to remove" fans for video cards that almost never have fans fail or get really dirty seems like the result of having many engineers with a lot of time on their hands looking to justify their own existence.
That's not only XFX, the whole industry are trying their hardest to normalise these chonkers. Of course every reasonable user enjoys silent and cool equipment that's very far from risky conditions but c'mon, this has become ridiculous 2.5 generations ago already.
From what I hear, the RTX 5090 is going to make the RTX 4090 look like an RTX 2060 with regard to size. Just look at this pic from Guru3D:
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I would really like to see this become more common.
GPU fans break? Now you don't need to redneck one together or have to buy a new heatsink, just take out the fans and slot a new one in.
I'd like to see how it fares over time. Since I'm sure you'd have to replace them more often wouldn't you?
Who knows? I have never had a video card fan fail on me, like ever. I've also never cleaned a video card in my life but all of the cards in my collection dating back to my GeForce 8500 GT are still pristine.
That's not comparable. I can get my 7900 XTX to use only 280W to 320W (spikes up to 400W still) by lowering the power limit. Those special BIOS options are basically doing the same thing: Limiting TGP
Yeah, I'm not really seeing a huge difference over my own XTX either.
It doesn't help that the initial batch had a manufacturing defect in the vapor chamber either. But you don't want to run the MBA design on a card with such a hideously high TDP anyway. There's no incentive to purchase such a card because they are consistently the loudest, hottest and simultaneously the worst performers. Any space-constrained build is far better serviced by an equivalent Ada Lovelace GPU regardless of targeted volume, since their performance per watt is far higher and its upscaling features (which can be used for power saving and thermal management purposes) are still superior to what AMD currently offers.
These are facts, no doubt, but they only apply to RTX 40-series cards because nobody in their right mind would choose an RTX 3050 over an RX 6600.
Hopefully, they will consider releasing a high-quality first-party design, something like they did with RX Vega generation. They will need to pull a compact and efficient GPU with RDNA 4 since they won't compete with Blackwell on the performance front, so a premium design for this niche makes sense to me.
The thing is, even so-called "first-party" coolers are third-party coolers. The nVidia Founder's Edition coolers are reportedly made by Cooler Master and the ATi Reference cards are made by PC Partner (better known as Zotac or Inno3D). Instead of out-sourcing like they do, I'd be interested to see how well both companies would do at actually making their own cooling solutions.
Here in the wild we see the typical AMD GPU fanboy. The fanboy, when confronted with the truth of how AMD's consumers GPUs are poorer on a performance-per-watt level than their competition, desperately defends the honour of their favourite company by moving the goalposts to talk about the competition's non-consumer GPUs.
It is true that in this generation, GeForce cards are more efficient. In the previous generation, Radeon cards were more efficient. I think that the reason nobody talked about it back then was because the GPU shortage made people a lot less picky. The primary focus was on actually getting a GPU (while trying to get raped as gently as possible when it came to price) in a desired performance tier. A secondary criterion like power consumption was reduced to the level of semantics so it wasn't something that anyone focused on.

Having said that, he does kinda have a point when it comes to comparing Intel and AMD CPUs because, at the high-end, the power use gulf between AMD and Intel CPUs is pretty colossal. I think that it's actually a bigger deal with CPUs than video cards because video cards already have massive cooling solutions on them and aren't heavily-used as commonly as CPUs are. I have criticised Intel for releasing products like the i9-13900KS and i9-14900KS but at the same time, I've also criticised AMD for releasing products like the R9-7900X3D and R9-7950X3D. I have no patience for cynical products like those.
 
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1) How many people would be willing to pay more for this than any other RX 7900 XTX or, for that matter an RTX 4080 Super? (I wouldn't)

Only few.

2) How many people realistically overclock their video cards? (I don't)

Undervolting and underclocking are the better options these days.

3) How many people will care about easily removing fans from their video card? (I don't)

None. Especially when the mining is gone.

4) How much of a difference will there be between this card when overclocked as opposed to any other XTX when overclocked? (Probably not much)

0.

5) Is the ~40W difference between this and any other RX 7900 XTX enough to matter to most people? (It doesn't matter to me)

Yes.

Now, I'm only looking at it from my own perspective, comparing it to my own ASRock RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming OC. It's very possible that many people would be interested in the Mercury Magnetic Air, but I don't see that being the case. I think that if people are looking to spend $1,000 on a video card today, the RTX 4080 Super would be their most likely choice since the PNY Verto is $50 less at $950.

Remember that this is an old card with very early version of ray-tracing units (very slow), released back in 2022, and this year is the year of a new generation - RTX 5000. If people are really going to throw a grand for a GPU, then better throw it for the new generation.
 
The thing is, even so-called "first-party" coolers are third-party coolers. The nVidia Founder's Edition coolers are reportedly made by Cooler Master and the ATi Reference cards are made by PC Partner (better known as Zotac or Inno3D). Instead of out-sourcing like they do, I'd be interested to see how well both companies would do at actually making their own cooling solutions.

Well, manufacturing is outsourced, but the design is very much inhouse. GN actually interviewed the engineer that developed the NVIDIA FE cooling system


Now that you mention it, CM has also done gigs for AMD before - Radeon R9 Fury X, Pro Duo Fiji and RX Vega 64/Frontier Edition watercooled use CM AIO systems. Of course, built to AMD's specification as well

Anyway, exotic cooling system on this XFX card, I'd like to see more of this, but it was just timed and marketed wrong in this instance.

I do not use any of those, since they are not working in ChimeraOS, which is where my 7900 xtx is.

Sadly, these days were are ok in going the lock-in route, thus limiting our options for the future and placing us at the vendor’s mercy. Just ask the loyal Ngreedia customers how dlss new features required a 40 series gpu.

Ah, you are on Linux. That's indeed a case apart.
 
It is a much easier job, sure, but let's be honest, how often is it needed?
It's not common, but there are situation for it.
My video cards are all pretty much pristine and I have never had to clean them.
You must live in a very clean environment. Most people need to clean their PC's out every 6 months at least. I clean mine out even 1 or 2 months.
 
The only thing that you really learn from testing online games with top-tier video cards is whether or not the game engine has a frame cap. :laugh:

I can verify league of legends will do 1000+ fps but along your lines of chatter I suspect my cpu is still the bottle neck
 
I showed this review to several people. Showed that the XTX even beat the RTX 4090 at 1080p in Remnant 2, Cyberpunk, and Call of Duty. Tied in Spiderman 2.

Nobody believes me.

How can AMD sell video cards when their far superior XTX card can't sell, but people line up to buy the RTX 4090 IMAGINING that somehow their GPU is 100 percent faster, not 15 percent, and even loses in some games.

Also I made this from Ghost of Tsushima from Techpowerup data.

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The 7900 XT for $700 is unbeatable imo. Should be the number one selling GPU. I don't know what AMD can do to fix this.
 
I showed this review to several people. Showed that the XTX even beat the RTX 4090 at 1080p in Remnant 2, Cyberpunk, and Call of Duty. Tied in Spiderman 2.

Nobody believes me.

How can AMD sell video cards when their far superior XTX card can't sell, but people line up to buy the RTX 4090 IMAGINING that somehow their GPU is 100 percent faster, not 15 percent, and even loses in some games.

Also I made this from Ghost of Tsushima from Techpowerup data.

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The 7900 XT for $700 is unbeatable imo. Should be the number one selling GPU. I don't know what AMD can do to fix this.
Nobody is buying a 7900 XTX or RTX 4090 to play at 1080p, you muppet.
 
Nobody is buying a 7900 XTX or RTX 4090 to play at 1080p, you muppet.
I know your username begins with "ass", but that doesn't mean you need to be one.
 
I showed this review to several people. Showed that the XTX even beat the RTX 4090 at 1080p in Remnant 2, Cyberpunk, and Call of Duty. Tied in Spiderman 2.

Nobody believes me.

How can AMD sell video cards when their far superior XTX card can't sell, but people line up to buy the RTX 4090 IMAGINING that somehow their GPU is 100 percent faster, not 15 percent, and even loses in some games.

Also I made this from Ghost of Tsushima from Techpowerup data.

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The 7900 XT for $700 is unbeatable imo. Should be the number one selling GPU. I don't know what AMD can do to fix this.

If you buy a 7900XTX or 4090 for 1080p gaming, nobody should ever believe you, so you brought it upon yourself.

Cherry picking just gives people a bad taste, just like how AMD recent lie about 5800XT beating 13600K, which got torn apart by the tech press like HUB and GamersNexus
 
I know your username begins with "ass", but that doesn't mean you need to be one.
People don't need to be muppets either, yet here we are.

p.s. try taking the stick out of your butt sometime.
 
Nobody is buying a 7900 XTX or RTX 4090 to play at 1080p
And you know that how? High refresh-rate displays are a thing. Competitive gaming is also a thing. Ever heard the term: "Frame-rate is life"? Oh yes. Not to long ago, I personally built a system with a 4090 paired with a high refresh-rate 1080p display. Granted, it also needed a fast CPU, but I digress...

you muppet.
Really with the personal insult?
p.s. try taking the stick out of your butt sometime.
Hey, you started it.. Quit acting like one and people will quit pointing it out. Just throwing it out there.
 
Funny that I have bought over 50 GPUs during the past 2 decades and have had a single instant where the fan fail, it was with the XFX R9 290

XFX should not be charging a premium for this at all.
Funny cus.. i had over 15 GPUS over the last 20 years too... and i had 6 GPUs fail (totally fail, they overheated) cus the fans stop working/died. Id totally pay for this. In every case that i needed to replace a fan, it was NEVER easy. This idea is brilliant. I know it's not new or anything, but i wish EVERY single card had this. Even someone like my friend (he can barely open his PC case lol) wouldn't have any issue with the replacement. It's that easy.

So idk if i got bad luck or what, cus i did go to the repair shop a few times. They told me how this kind of thing happens, its not totally rare or anything. So you probably got lucky. Your story reminds me of the hard drive stories. There are people that keep claiming how they still use drives from 2005 etc, with 0 fails. Meanwhile, i lost at least 10 hard drives over the last 25 years. I got around 30 right now, and even these 30... have a few bad sectors and stuff. Anyways, fans never last forever... even a cooling fan that blows air in your face. I had to buy many of these over the last 30 years. All of my PC case fans failed too. They do have a life-expectancy after all, but even then... many of them can fail much sooner too. Like a hard drive. So yeah, congratz on being 100% lucky! Now pass on that luck to others, u had it long enough!
 
Funny cus.. i had over 15 GPUS over the last 20 years too... and i had 6 GPUs fail (totally fail, they overheated) cus the fans stop working/died. Id totally pay for this. In every case that i needed to replace a fan, it was NEVER easy. This idea is brilliant. I know it's not new or anything, but i wish EVERY single card had this. Even someone like my friend (he can barely open his PC case lol) wouldn't have any issue with the replacement. It's that easy.

So idk if i got bad luck or what, cus i did go to the repair shop a few times. They told me how this kind of thing happens, its not totally rare or anything. So you probably got lucky. Your story reminds me of the hard drive stories. There are people that keep claiming how they still use drives from 2005 etc, with 0 fails. Meanwhile, i lost at least 10 hard drives over the last 25 years. I got around 30 right now, and even these 30... have a few bad sectors and stuff. Anyways, fans never last forever... even a cooling fan that blows air in your face. I had to buy many of these over the last 30 years. All of my PC case fans failed too. They do have a life-expectancy after all, but even then... many of them can fail much sooner too. Like a hard drive. So yeah, congratz on being 100% lucky! Now pass on that luck to others, u had it long enough!

Your GPUs overheated were not due to broken fans, but rather the driver stop the fans from working properly (aka erratic behavior of the idle stop function) leading to high VRAM temperature and eventual failure. Newer GPUs have safeguard that will trigger the fans to max speed once Hotspot or VRAM thermal threshold is reached, which alert users that something might be wrong before GPU come to complete failure.

I would rather spend a premium on a premium products with premium fans, rather than the ability to change fans (which probably won't be purchaseable after a few years when you need it anyways).

My luck is probably because I buy premium PSU and UPS :cool:, furthermore I monitor all my components thermal all the time using MSI Afterburner for the past 20 years.
 
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The driver version says 24.3.1, did you use 2 different versions for the review and for the oc?
 

XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX Magnetic Air​

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XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX Merc 310 OC​


Seems to be absolutely the same PCB incl. assembly!
What about a crossflash, is that still possible without the driver whining?
I'll gladly take the extra clock speed for free, but I'm more interested in the apparently somewhat newer bios.
AMD updates the GOP every now and then and fixes basic problems, also in terms of compatibility, but unfortunately the manufacturers don't think about making this available to everyone as an update for existing cards.
 
Are you guys planning on updating your blender results to include Hip-rt? AMD still loses on blender with that enabled, but it's a world of difference going from the XTX barely keeping up with the 3070, to around 3090 performance in blender with it enabled, which has been available for months by now, which makes the whole blender testing suite, outdated info.
 
If you buy a 7900XTX or 4090 for 1080p gaming, nobody should ever believe you, so you brought it upon yourself.

Cherry picking just gives people a bad taste, just like how AMD recent lie about 5800XT beating 13600K, which got torn apart by the tech press like HUB and GamersNexus

You are so wrong. 1080p is the relevant number, you upscale it to 4k from there. Secondly you can just look at the 1440p results are they are similar.

Also no cherry picking here, we are reading the same review right? "XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX review" from Techpowerup. You can read the review and see the same results.

Cherry picking, how about a red herring, talking about the 5800 XT for some reason. LMAO. Your post.
 
Appreciate the review but a little disappointed the memory junction temp isnt mentioned, there's a notable delta between my Nitro+ hotspot & mem junction(mem runs ~10C hotter). Trying to find if its a common thing between different AIB models but a lot of reviews leave it out.
 
I had a friend looking to buy a reference model so I sold him mine and got this model for a good price!!

Very impressed with the build quality and noise.
 
I had a friend looking to buy a reference model so I sold him mine and got this model for a good price!!

Very impressed with the build quality and noise.
Until early today, it was the cheapest 7900 XTX in Canada.

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