thanks again guys but please no arguments, im so stressed already to hold on to my leftovers budget till september after paying irs in august if my calculations were correct.
I have not read this entire thread (after when I last posted) as I too hate seeing (especially bad advice mixed with forceful arguments) fighting, but I was almost going to PM you to ask if this was the case.
Hence, I read until you actually said it.
I respect your situation.
We can still discuss in PM options if you'd like; I'm not against recommending a nVIDIA card if it suits you (last three cards I've owned were nV; before that largely ATi/AMD since the voodoo2).
I believe I have solid reasoning for everything I chose to purchase, and am very frugal. I have a 2080 Ti because some people are...not well-informed (I bought it VERY cheap after the 3000 series launched).
Some of the reasons for the reality of such ignorance and short-sightedness continue in this very thread.
But, as such, there have been and are many reasons to buy Radeon over the years, and that will continue. It is also especially the case for those that buy new.
If you can, please do truly wait for N48 (likely branded as 8600/xt or 9600/xt). It will be named for the Navi 4 architecture, and likely bring worth-while price, performance, and efficiency gains for your sitch.
It will also likely render many of these arguments moot.
I think that will be the card for your situation in which you will feel you got your money's worth but also won't need to worry for quite some time.
If you do not agree after reviews are out, there will likely be many options more in-tune with your price goals at that time given AMD's upper-end (N44) will likely fight the 4070 Ti Super, if not the 4080 (granted, that could involve overclocking; may not apply to you but may apply to market conditions), which will cause a cause a shake-up. nVIDIA may even release a 4060 Ti Super (the current products have unused cores on them so it could happen) and discount older cards, if not just the later.
All I care about is you getting the best native 1080p/60 (perhaps with some extra goodies like RT if applicable) for the longest amount of time for the cheapest amount of money.
IE: Happiness but not getting ripped off.
In that respect, especially given your desire to buy new, among other things I've learned wrt to your POV, I think this is the way to go so that you won't have buyer's remorse or need to upgrade again soon.
If nothing else, this will give you the most up-to-date information on the situation (to hear people argue about.)
I wish you much luck and please do have fun with whatever you end up doing/choosing.
I would kindly remind people that nobody uses their card at 100% load all the time, and idle/media playback is a miniscule amount of power regardless of difference, especially vs something like using a tv.
I remain at your (or anyones') disposal via PM if they seek my advice, but must bounce from this thread. Not because I invite ignoranance (I appreciate all pov/info); just can't imagine it being productive.
Some must be especially bored this weekend, which is fair-enough, as that's probably what brought me here to begin with as well (although I do like help whenever/however I can).