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Find a kit of 512MB RDIMMs(make sure you match the running specs, a few of us can point you in the right direction) and upgrade. That system will run soooo much better with 768MB of RAM.


I did. Several, Pentium 3 and 4. RDRAM was expensive, but when properly utilized, VERY fast. Did great things for games.

BTW, This was a good video;
I love this channel!

IMO, Intel could have included lower cost L2 cache, say 64K. But even the cache-less Celerons could OC like a boss and make up for their shortcomings. However, the 300A was just a joy!
I have to confession to make, I've never owned any of those legendary Celerons.. :(

Needs more tinkering.

 
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It is to expensive and a kit of two would only make 640mb with the two sticks i have to keep in there.
256+512=768. You have two RDIMMs and two CRIMMs(blank termination sticks) in that system. Take out the blanks and put in a pair of 256MB RDIMMs. So in the end, 2x128MB+2x256MB=768MB. Over there in the UK, RDIMMS might be more pricey as they're more rare, but over here stateside, they're price is still reasonable for the most part.

I have to confession to make, I've never owned any of those legendary Celerons.. :(
Fair enough. They really were the absolute best value CPU Intel ever made, and I'm comparing to the Core2Duos and Core2Quads which were exceptional values.
 
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256+512=768. You have two RDIMMs and two CRIMMs(blank termination sticks) in that system. Take out the blanks and put in a pair of 256MB RDIMMs. So in the end, 2x128MB+2x256MB=768MB. Over there in the UK, RDIMMS might be more pricey as they're more rare, but over here stateside, they're price is still reasonable for the most part.


Fair enough. They really were the absolute best value CPU Intel ever made, and I'm comparing to the Core2Duos and Core2Quads which were exceptional values.
Are the blank ones the half sized ones?o_OAnd what is the point of having blank ones in there? o_OThat seems the thing in the UK ,things are more expensive :(
 
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Yes. They are the ones with no chips on them.

They provide the RAMBUS memory bus termination. They are required, unlike normal stand alone DIMMs that provide their own bus termination.
Then If i take the other sticks out i will only have the kit of 512mb ? o_OOr can i just take one of them out?i still will only have 640 MB?o_O
 
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Then If i take the other sticks out i will only have the kit of 512mb ? o_OOr can i just take one of them out?i still will only have 640 MB?o_O
I might be missing something. You said earlier that the system has 256MB total, right? That can only be 4x64MB or 2x128MB+2xCRIMMs. Where are you getting 640MB from?
And based in the photo in this post...
...that setup is 2x128MB+2xCRIMMs. So if you take out the CRIMMs and add in 2x256MB and you will have 2x128MB+2x256MB which will add up to 768MB.
 
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I might be missing something. You said earlier that the system has 256MB total, right? That can only be 4x64MB or 2x128MB+2xCRIMMs. Where are you getting 640MB from?
Yes it does 2x 128mb and 2 x times CRIMES You are right there.if i have to use use the two CRIMMS and with the two kit of 2x 12
I might be missing something. You said earlier that the system has 256MB total, right? That can only be 4x64MB or 2x128MB+2xCRIMMs. Where are you getting 640MB from?
And based in the photo in this post...
...that setup is 2x128MB+2xCRIMMs. So if you take out the CRIMMs and add in 2x256MB and you will have 2x128MB+2x256MB which will add up to 768MB.
Yes but you said you need the CRIMMS in there? o_OIf i don,t need them in there you are right what you say. But the problem is they are far to expensive at £20 make an offer it is not worth it,bearing in mind i only paid £1 for the PC.View attachment 1719168344641.webp Can i get a version of

CPU Z for 98se or Windows ME or 2000?And Future mark for AMD 1999 MOTHERBOARD with any of thous systems? o_O

 
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I have been messing with PCs since the early 90s.

Anyone looking for retro hardware? I have a shit-ton.
 
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If you replace the CRIMMs with RDIMMs, the bus still gets termination as the bus loop is completed with the extra RDIMMs. The CRIMMs are just passthrough termination boards, completely passive.
20quid for 512MB kit?!? Grab those! Steal of a deal!
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I have been messing with PCs since the early 90s.

Anyone looking for retro hardware? I have a shit-ton.
Unforunatly i am in the UK :(I see you are in Canada.It,s allways the wat someone miles away from me.There was a guy on here sometime ago who offerd to give me stuff ,but he was the side of the UK i don,t drive so i had to refuse .Tranport in this country is well over priced the trains that is.It is cheaper to fly abroad. :(

If you replace the CRIMMs with RDIMMs, the bus still gets termination as the bus loop is completed with the extra RDIMMs. The CRIMMs are just passthrough termination boards, completely passive.
20quid for 512MB kit?!? Grab those! Steal of a deal!
Would 512 be enough,or does it need to be 768MB to make it worth while?o_OAnd the problem of drivers for it .They did not show anything on there no Sony drivers avaleable.:(
 
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Would 512 be enough,or does it need to be 768MB to make it worth while?o_OAnd the problem of drivers for it .They did not show anything on there no Sony drivers avaleable.:(
Honestly? You already have 256MB, adding in 512MB would be ideal for your setup. But if you found a another 256MB kit, you'd end up with 512MB. I would aim for a 512MB kit or even 1024MB(2x512MB). But then again, I don't know your budget. Go with what you can afford. Get something though, 256MB for XP is just painful.

If you do go with 2x512MB, you'll finish up with 1.25GB of RAM, which is very good for XP as long as you pair up a GPU with 256MB of it's own VRAM.
 
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Honestly? You already have 256MB, adding in 512MB would be ideal for your setup. But if you found a another 256MB kit, you'd end up with 512MB. I would aim for a 512MB kit or even 1024MB(2x512MB). But then again, I know your budget. Go with what you can afford. Get something though, 256MB for XP is just painful.
Yes you are right there,thats why i said in my pieace about it that it would be more suitable for an older system.I need a ethernet card for some of my older systems
will i be avle to get the driversthere is make on the card
* 100Mbps Ethernet LAN PCI Network Card Desktop Controller Taiwan L40M400 *

Honestly? You already have 256MB, adding in 512MB would be ideal for your setup. But if you found a another 256MB kit, you'd end up with 512MB. I would aim for a 512MB kit or even 1024MB(2x512MB). But then again, I don't know your budget. Go with what you can afford. Get something though, 256MB for XP is just painful.

If you do go with 2x512MB, you'll finish up with 1.25GB of RAM, which is very good for XP as long as you pair up a GPU with 256MB of it's own VRAM.
I have just seen this the thing is it is only £4.10 It seems to cheap.o_O

2 X NEC 256MB/16d non ECC​

rand
NEC
Form Factor
RIMM
Type
RDRAM
Total Capacity
512 MB
Number of Modules
2
Capacity per Module
256 MB
Model
Rambus
Number of Pins 184
NEC, MC-4R256CPE6C-754 total capacity of 512MB, divided into 2 modules of 256MB each. RIMM 184-pin NON ECC, Its compatibility with HP

Yes you are right there,thats why i said in my pieace about it that it would be more suitable for an older system.I need a ethernet card for some of my older systems
will i be avle to get the driversthere is make on the card
* 100Mbps Ethernet LAN PCI Network Card Desktop Controller Taiwan L40M400 *


I have just seen this the thing is it is only £4.10 It seems to cheap.o_O

2 X NEC 256MB/16d non ECC​

rand
NEC
Form Factor
RIMM
Type
RDRAM
Total Capacity
512 MB
Number of Modules
2
Capacity per Module
256 MB
Model
Rambus
Number of Pins 184
NEC, MC-4R256CPE6C-754 total capacity of 512MB, divided into 2 modules of 256MB each. RIMM 184-pin NON ECC, Its compatibility with HP
There is also these Elpida HP 1818-8540 +Rambus (2 Pairs. )less than £5 that seems dirt cheap are they the right ones? o_O
Are HP not that good or wha?o_OI see the other ones are the halt sized omes the CRIMMs.Od course i could get the two of them for less than a tenner. for 1 gb. :)

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Yes you are right there,thats why i said in my pieace about it that it would be more suitable for an older system.I need a ethernet card for some of my older systems
will i be avle to get the driversthere is make on the card
* 100Mbps Ethernet LAN PCI Network Card Desktop Controller Taiwan L40M400 *


I have just seen this the thing is it is only £4.10 It seems to cheap.o_O

2 X NEC 256MB/16d non ECC​

rand
NEC
Form Factor
RIMM
Type
RDRAM
Total Capacity
512 MB
Number of Modules
2
Capacity per Module
256 MB
Model
Rambus
Number of Pins 184
NEC, MC-4R256CPE6C-754 total capacity of 512MB, divided into 2 modules of 256MB each. RIMM 184-pin NON ECC, Its compatibility with HP


There is also these Elpida HP 1818-8540 +Rambus (2 Pairs. )less than £5 that seems dirt cheap are they the right ones? o_O
Are HP not that good or wha?o_OI see the other ones are the halt sized omes the CRIMMs.Od course i could get the two of them for less than a tenner. for 1 gb. :)

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Get the 1GB kit for that 10er you mentioned! That's an even better deal! XP will run well on that system after they're installed.
 
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Get the 1GB kit for that 10er you mentioned! That's an even better deal! XP will run well on that system after they're installed.
There are two lots from the same seller making 1gb,i have asked the seller if they can send them in one package so i don,t have to pay two lots of postage.It seems logical to me as they are both from the same seller.
And about the Ethernet Network card there is no make on the card would i be able to get drivers for it?
100Mbps Ethernet LAN PCI Network Card Desktop Controller Taiwan L40M400.that cap looks a bit dodgy o_O
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That wouldn't be the only time I've done it lol
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(couldn't find one of my photos so this is from the seller before he shipped it here)

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Both photos were pre-recap. The BP6 had a broken SMD transistor near the power-on header, and the 694D Pro-AR had crappy caps used for a recap (OST RLX.). The VP6 is currently on hold as I have to replace the entire 2nd socket due to the lugs completely crumbling away. The BP6 got semi-polymodded, and the 694D Pro-AR got recapped with Rubycon MFZ as well as Panasonic FJ. There's a 2nd VP6 as well however that one will not POST or beep, despite being fully recapped thanks to Topcat @ BCN (he's the one whom I got the VP6s from, along with a pretty spartan Micron branded 486 mobo.)
Had the same BP6 at home, with legal WinXP...unfortunately, my Dad thrown it away - as it was "junk to him"! o_O:banghead:

Had also VP6, but that went for some good money on eBAY. :cool:
 
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I am trying to get GPU-Z to work on Windows 2000 system, it’s recommended to use the older version 0.3.4 which i have downloaded but get this message *Unknwn Architecture*? o_O
And 3dmark 99 Winzipp self extraction i do that then it becomes blank,but after a time does loads and get this message
*An error occurred during the move data process 113*o_OI have 3dmark 2000 it works why can,t i get 3dmark 1999 on here? o_O
 
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There are two lots from the same seller making 1gb,i have asked the seller if they can send them in one package so i don,t have to pay two lots of postage.It seems logical to me as they are both from the same seller.
Nice!

I am trying to get GPU-Z to work on Windows 2000 system, it’s recommended to use the older version 0.3.4 which i have downloaded but get this message *Unknwn Architecture*? o_O
This is a question for the W1zzard . @W1zzard Sorry to bug you twice in as many days, but do you know what version of GPUZ would be best for Win2k? Wasn't 1.12 the last version with Win2k/XP support?
 

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This is a question for the W1zzard . @W1zzard Sorry to bug you twice in as many days, but do you know what version of GPUZ would be best for Win2k? Wasn't 1.12 the last version with Win2k/XP support?
Newest version should support 2K/XP just fine
 
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Newest version should support 2K/XP just fine

Realtek RTL8139D - 10/100 PCI Network Interface NIC Card Ethernet RJ 45 will it be easy to get drivers for this card for 98se ME and 2000 o_O


Honestly? You already have 256MB, adding in 512MB would be ideal for your setup. But if you found a another 256MB kit, you'd end up with 512MB. I would aim for a 512MB kit or even 1024MB(2x512MB). But then again, I don't know your budget. Go with what you can afford. Get something though, 256MB for XP is just painful.

If you do go with 2x512MB, you'll finish up with 1.25GB of RAM, which is very good for XP as long as you pair up a GPU with 256MB of it's own VRAM.
The guy made a misstake he only had one set the others were the CRIMMS,
 
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Ok, cool! Didn't know you were still supporting older OSes.


Well still, grab them. That'll still be 768MB, which is solid for XP.

There are two lots from the same seller making 1gb,i have asked the seller if they can send them in one package so i don,t have to pay two lots of postage.It seems logical to me as they are both from the same seller.
And about the Ethernet Network card there is no make on the card would i be able to get drivers for it?
100Mbps Ethernet LAN PCI Network Card Desktop Controller Taiwan L40M400.that cap looks a bit dodgy o_O
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I gave that one a miss i don,t like that cap that is bent over.:(I did get two of these though

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Realtek RTL8139D - 10/100 PCI Network Interface NIC Card Ethernet RJ45 for £8.14.I had a bad incident earlier on Molex adapter caught fire thats a nasty smell:mad:Why do they have those floppy connectors on CF Connectors it stoped working after that:(Why don,t they have a Molex connecter on them if they did you would not need an adapter.After all there is only one floppy connecter on a PSU well the ones i have o_OThats put me off using them.The black wire is showing a bit of bare wire 2073.that could be dodge.Has anyone else had one of those adapters catch fire? o_O


Ok, cool! Didn't know you were still supporting older OSes.


Well still, grab them. That'll still be 768MB, which is solid for XP.

I am trying to get GPU-Z to work on Windows 2000 system, it’s recommended to use the older version 0.3.4 which i have downloaded but get this message *Unknwn Architecture*? o_O
And 3dmark 99 Winzipp self extraction i do that then it becomes blank,but after a time does loads and get this message
*An error occurred during the move data process 113*o_OI have 3dmark 2000 it works why can,t i get 3dmark 1999 on here? o_O
It did it again burning :mad: Is it all ways the floppy cable that causes it?
Or could it be the PSU connecter?o_OThe two black wires are out a bit.
 

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Throw that molex to floppy adapter cable away. I wouldn't trust it any longer. Hopefully the poor earths (black) are the cause of the 5 volt (red) getting overheated. Worst case, it could be a short circuit on the CF carrier.

Futuremark Legacy Benchmarks.
Not sure which DirectX you need for 3DMark99, but make sure you have DX6, 7, & 8. You can get them here.
 
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Throw that molex to floppy adapter cable away. I wouldn't trust it any longer. Hopefully the poor earths (black) are the cause of the 5 volt (red) getting overheated. Worst case, it could be a short circuit on the CF carrier.

Futuremark Legacy Benchmarks.
Not sure which DirectX you need for 3DMark99, but make sure you have DX6, 7, & 8. You can get them here.
My question is can a molex connecter on a psu be the cuse of the burning of the molex adapter or is it all ways the molex adapter that is the cause?The black ones had a bit of the wire showing.Yes i definitely will throw it out.Are there some more reliable cables you can recommend, or do i have to use either a CF card or a floppy drive?I have this star tech adapter i just hope it does not happen with that if it does i am stuffed. o_OI really had to push the adapter in the connecter on the cf card where as the one on the PSU you don,t.Can any of the PSU connectors burn or is it just the Molex adapters that burn?the cf card is not showing now ,it was when i just tried it.Now i have changed the PSU and it is working. o_OGPUZ 0.3.5 surely this is a 32bit system 2000? o_O 3DMARK99 I self extract it with win2p it them goes blank for sometime then it ends with this ,then i click that and it goes away.o_OI all ways thought it was PrimaryMaster when it was in the slot next to the Ram, but it is secondary Master on here.

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