Intel Statement on 13th and 14th Gen Core Instability: Faulty Microcode Causes Excessive Voltages, Fix Out Soon

[Lewzke]

My friend has no issues with 13700KF, but he runs DDR5-5600 "only", the maximum official RAM speeds. I think I will leave his BIOS as it is until this issue is fully solved. (discovered)

 

[Caring1]

My friend has no issues with 13700KF, but he runs DDR5-5600 "only", the maximum official RAM speeds. I think I will leave his BIOS as it is until this issue is fully solved. (discovered)

One of Intel's recommendations was to set the memory at 5600, I suppose that would place less strain on the IMC.

 

[trparky]

And here comes the lawyers...
Intel Processor Instability Issues Class Action Lawsuit Investigation 2024 | JOIN TODAY (abingtonlaw.com)

 

[Ayhamb99]

This is going to be entertaining to watch

 

[neatfeatguy]

Ah, the good old class action lawsuit. In the end, if Intel has to pay out it won't be anywhere near what they reaped in profit from these CPUs and the money people will get from it won't be anywhere near the price they paid for a CPU. The lawyers will walk away with upwards of 30% of all the money from it and the remining 70% will be distributed out amongst thousands, if not millions of every day consumers. So...enjoy that iced mocha or energy drink money you'll get back. Intel will just laugh all the way to the bank. On the other hand not only has this current situation put them into a bad light if the class action suit is successful it'll just be another blemish that could push more consumers away from them. Looks like Intel is on a slippery slope here and they may be in for a wild ride to the bottom of the hill soon.

All this hoopla with Intel and these CPU issues has me thinking about how I ran my Phenom II x4 940 on 1.5125V for 3-4 years to keep the 3.6GHz OC I had on it. Never had an issue. Back when things were built to last!

 

[Lewzke]

Moral of the story: don't rush the testing phase EVER.

 

[mkppo]

Back when things were built to last!

When it comes to CPU's they're all still built to last except 13/14 gen where Intel somehow dropped the ball really hard.

Steve doing deep investigation into this isn't going to look good for intel..they should've seen this coming. I've said it before - Wendell and Steve investigating issues together is bad news. I know HUB did some investigation on a surface level and had pretty bad things to say. This will be worse.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Realistically it won't. Worst case scenario it drops what, 100mhz on the pcores? Let's say 200? Heck let's make it 300 just for the sake. That's a 3% drop on the mt performance of the chip. It's so irrelevant you won't even notice.

No the owner may not notice, but the scores that count in reviews can change the landscape where intel stacks up.

 

[trparky]

Looks like Intel is on a slippery slope here and they may be in for a wild ride to the bottom of the hill soon.

The mightier they are, the harder they fall.

Suffice it to say, AMD is going to enjoy a very big uptick in sales and reputation if they can pull off the Ryzen 9000-series launch with relatively no issues.

 

[LittleBro]

Intel’s crashing 13th and 14th Gen CPUs get two additional years of warranty coverage

This should mean that most affected CPUs will have a 5-year warranty.

www.theverge.com

 

[Ayhamb99]

 

[Evrsr]

"It has found that faulty processor microcode has been causing the processors to operate under excessive core voltages, leading to their structural degradation over time."
So if the excessive core voltage degraded the CPU, then HTF is a microcode update going to fix those degraded chips like..?

• Eh, then you didnt get what you paid for. At that point I would expect a voucher or cash in addition to the replacement CPU.
• The code has to be written to the CPU, or at least the bios. As having it in the OS is not a fix.

Sure. If it was me, I'd limit voltages even though turbo clocks could lower a bit. (there are places they say "up to 6GHz", not guaranteed)
For users that really cared, just accept the RMA. Others that would mostly use multithreaded loads would not really care.

The performance drop would not be significant for MT users to care enough to do RMAs.

 

[b1k3rdude]

Well its old news now, the only option for chips that have degraded is warranty replacement. But as usual 'scroogtel' is fighting tooth & nail not to honour the warranty...