7800X3D PPT

Blaeza · 2024-08-04T13:39:48+0100

I know the PPT of a 7800X3D is 120W.

So why is mine running at 162?!?

I did manage to change the soc to 1.125 through Ryzen Master though instead of 1.3V now.

oxrufiioxo · 2024-08-04T13:42:58+0100

Must be high....

3x0 · 2024-08-04T13:43:47+0100

Blaeza said:
I know the PPT of a 7800X3D is 120W.

No, TDP is 120W. PPT is a different thing.

Blaeza · 2024-08-04T13:44:26+0100

oxrufiioxo said:
Must be high....

Lmao...

Klemc · 2024-08-04T14:27:12+0100

Here my 7800 XD HWInfo, CPUBoost_OFF/+XMP/ON/ON+XMP

SoC doesn't changes a bit (only XMP ON).

If it's due to motherboard, mine is B650E-E (Asus).

Tomgang · 2024-08-04T14:31:54+0100

I am not sure exactly. But it is normal for tdp and real wattage to be different.

Examples for my own cpu's. My 5600X is a 65 watt tdp but in Ryzen master says 76 watt and my 5950X is a 105 watt tdp part of but Ryzen master says 141 watt. So i'll say its normal behaviour with that wattage of 165 watt on ppt

AusWolf · 2024-08-04T14:45:21+0100

PPT (power limit) = TDP (random bullshit number) * 1.35, that is 120 W * 1.35 = 162 W on the 7800X3D. Don't worry, you'll never get anywhere near it.

Blaeza · 2024-08-04T16:09:09+0100

-CO15 produced this

WTF is going on?

Zach_01 · 2024-08-04T16:36:41+0100

I find RyzenMaster to be useless. I stopped using it years ago and uninstalled it since. Any CPU setting should be changed in UEFI/BIOS.
Check HWiNFO while running things to see if anything is wrong.

If an AMD CPU has a TDP of 120W then its max power (PPT) should be around 170W.

120W is a “declaration” of the minimum cooling capacity the CPU needs to operate on default settings and perform as advertised on specific ambient conditions.

It’s confusing I know but it is what it is…

Blaeza · 2024-08-04T17:48:57+0100

Zach_01 said:
I find RyzenMaster to be useless. I stopped using it years ago and uninstalled it since.
Check HWiNFO while running things to see if anything is wrong.

If an AMD CPU has a TDP of 120W then its max power (PPT) should be around 170W.

120W is a “declaration” of the minimum cooling capacity the CPU needs to operate on default settings and perform as advertised on specific ambient conditions.

It’s confusing I know but it is what it is…

I changed the co to -13 and its fine again. AM5 is funky.

Zach_01 · 2024-08-04T17:52:56+0100

Have you tried to change it from BIOS?
Also what did HWiNFO said during those weird RM readings?

Blaeza · 2024-08-04T18:13:03+0100

Zach_01 said:
Have you tried to change it from BIOS?
Also what did HWiNFO said during those weird RM readings?

Bios is locked for a lot of things. As in greyed out.

HWINFO was all normal.

Zach_01 · 2024-08-04T18:41:46+0100

Blaeza said:
Bios is locked for a lot of things. As in greyed out.

HWINFO was all normal.

An X670E board with locked settings?
Something’s not right I think

Blaeza · 2024-08-04T18:47:06+0100

I can adjust the bios settings with Ryzen master though. Weird.

Super Firm Tofu · 2024-08-04T19:26:10+0100

Blaeza said:
I can adjust the bios settings with Ryzen master though. Weird.

They're not locked. If it shows "Auto" and does nothing when you click on it, you'll need to enter the numbers manually. For SoC, you'd click in it and type 1.125 (from your example). The options don't show up in a menu to choose from.

Blaeza · 2024-08-04T19:47:08+0100

Super Firm Tofu said:
They're not locked. If it shows "Auto" and does nothing when you click on it, you'll need to enter the numbers manually. For SoC, you'd click in it and type 1.125 (from your example). The options don't show up in a menu to choose from.

Give me some credit please lmao...

I've tried typing numbers in and nothing happens.

EDIT. I'm a complete and utter tit. Soc is at 1.2 now. FFS! :nutkick:

System Name	My 2nd new build
Processor	Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	X670E MSI Tomahawk WiFi
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 ARGB
Memory	G-Skill Trident Z Neo RGB 6000 CL30 32GB
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Mouse	Glorious Model D l Pad GameSir G7 SE
Keyboard	Redragon Vara K551P
Software	Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	Lets get my GPU working first...

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Memory	G-Skill Trident Z Neo RGB 6000 CL30 32GB
Video Card(s)	Powercolor 7900 GRE Red Devil
Storage	Samsung 870 QVO 1TB x 2, Lexar 256 GB, TeamGroup MP44L 2TB, Crucial T700 1TB
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Case	Montech 903 MAX AIR
Audio Device(s)	Corsair void wireless/Razer Kraken
Power Supply	MSI MPG AGF 850 watt gold
Mouse	Glorious Model D l Pad GameSir G7 SE
Keyboard	Redragon Vara K551P
Software	Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	Lets get my GPU working first...

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7800X3D PPT

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