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Is High Power 600W Bronze Eco good enough?

 
With no-name brands it used to be you could load them half of what it said on the box. With 80Plus standard PSU's this probably goes up to 2/3 (in your case 400W), but I wouldn't trust it to go higher than that.
 
pavle said:
With no-name brands it used to be you could load them half of what it said on the box. With 80Plus standard PSU's this probably goes up to 2/3 (in your case 400W), but I wouldn't trust it to go higher than that.
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That explains why my old xilence xp550 from 2006 just cut off power while gaming. i was pulling like 300w 350w out of that, which caused the psu to get hot hot and yeah you know the rest. i hope the whole pc is okay and its just the psu.
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its segotep a brand known in asia and europe... but dont think it has a great track record in terms of reliability... seems like you might need to save up a little bit more... for a better reliable brand
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I think i'll get a high power bronze 600w eco. it is the most price performance thing available as in right now.

damn. psu prices did increase right? because afaik before 2020 ish or something you could have bought a decent psu for like 30 usd or something for some budget builds, now 50. almost %25 of the whole build cost is psu lmao
 
Is it good? Yes. Is it overdimensioned? Yes. The system is very weak and outdated, and the PSU for it is highly potent. Ignore the standard cynical tech forum kneejerk posts...
A 600W PSU is extremely common, and for the time of your card it counted as high-end (whereas the card never did), and one would rather expect a question and serious discussion for a high-end or at least sort of modern system. Not something like this.
 
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FelixH said:
Is it good? Yes. Is it overdimensioned? Yes. The system is very weak and outdated, and the PSU for it is highly potent. Ignore the standard cynical tech forum kneejerk posts...
A 600W PSU is extremely common and one would rather expect a question and serious discussion for a high-end or at least sort of modern system. Not something like this.
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If he can't afford a new system because a junk unit blows it up, does your logic still count? Quality units save systems period.
 
Toothless said:
If he can't afford a new system because a junk unit blows it up, does your logic still count? Quality units save systems period.
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Who said anything about junk unit? Buying a decent quality PSU goes without saying. The discussion surrounded the Watts. What's the logic of buying a crappy 800 Watts PSU to "prevent it from blowing up"? Not practical.
 
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I'm starting to wonder if used PSUs from the late-2010s are a better deal. Such as an eVGA Supernova G3 750W. Same as the one in my sig, which has been daily-driven.
 
RJARRRPCGP said:
I'm starting to wonder if used PSUs from the late-2010s are a better deal. Such as an eVGA Supernova G3 750W. Same as the one in my sig, which has been daily-driven.
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I have a G2 750W which works like a charm.
 
Ege56813 said:
50 usd or something.
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Just save up some more cash so you can buy a proper PSU.
Remember, a PSU is the heart of your system.
 
Ege56813 said:
...psus have platforms? I thought it was only ATX and MATX or whatever sorry


whats a cwt based unit?
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Each manufacturer has its own design; someone like EVGA or Corsair will have models from different manufacturers.
 
Shrek said:
Each manufacturer has its own design; someone like EVGA or Corsair will have models from different manufacturers.
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Yeah. Basically Seasonic, Super Flower and FSP are the only known retail PSU brands which actually makes their own PSUs.
 
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Ruru said:
Yeah. Basically Seasonic, Super Flower and FSP are the only known retail PSU brands which actually makes their own PSUs.
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Some sell under different names
Sirtec AKA Highpower
Helly AKA 1st player
HEC AKA Cougar

Some like CWT are better known in different parts of the world as a brand and OEM

Some brands like Corsair & CM design their own units so they can take them them to various manufactures as opposed to just buying a unit from an OEM and repackaging it for consumer sales
*Also Seasonic & Superflower outsource as well as make their own units. You then bring in things like in house SMT lines or outsourced so how much of the unit is built in house?
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might justify a secondhand supply, avoiding the junk models
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but you would need to know the unit's actual history. I can sell you a solid PSU that I used as a back up that barely has 100 hrs of office use on it. Billy Bob could have used the same PSU in his mining rig for the last eight years running the snot of out it. We both can sell the same unit "barely used" yet you go with Billy Bob. Damn Billy Bob, you did Shrek dirty in that PSU sale!
 
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Do Corsair design their own units (just asking); I though they made variations like a different fan...

CM = Cooler Master for those wondering (like me)
 
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Shrek said:
Do Corsair design their own units (just asking); I though they made variations like a different fan...
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yes (they have their own engineers same with CM) and work in conjunctions with their oem partners. That allows them to take platforms from CWT to Chicony, Great Wall, etc., which they have in the past.

Shrek said:
I though they made variations like a different fan...
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They have also done that as well, more in the past but are more hands on then when they started with PSU. Probably the most hands on pure brand in terms of design and in house test labs both for their units and the competition.

Shrek said:
CM = Cooler Master for those wondering (like me)
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lol, yes sorry CM has really stepped up their PSU game.
*actually so has thermaltake. Still sell some junk but have teamed up with CWT to bring in some solid to quality units to the market. ten, twenty years ago I would say avoid both of them at all costs.
 
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Hyderz said:


its segotep a brand known in asia and europe... but dont think it has a great track record in terms of reliability... seems like you might need to save up a little bit more... for a better reliable brand
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From that page, the paper shield does not inspire confidence

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Ege56813 said:
that psu is so old even I wouldnt trust it..

E5 2690v3 TBU 3.5 ghz all core 140w tdp
rx 580 2048sp 150w tdp
4x8 quad channel ram ddr4 2133mhz NON ECC
X99 QD4 2024 Mobo
2x nvme ssd
3x sata hdd
1x sata ssd

Like 1000 to 1700 1800. Roughly translates to 50 usd or something.

Im thinking of getting the high power eco 600 bronze. or msi mag a600dn 80+

...psus have platforms? I thought it was only ATX and MATX or whatever sorry


whats a cwt based unit?


Ah no, low voltages does not happen here. Maaaybe once a month. It stays around 230 250V.
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Channel well technology

Look at cooler master
 
Ege56813 said:
psus have platforms? I thought it was only ATX and MATX or whatever sorry
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yep.
some "high-tech" text going down:
Johnny Lucky PSU Database

as I know CWT is best, and of course SeaSonic and FSP are reliable too.

Correct me techie-ppl if I'm wrong!
 
AleXXX666 said:
as I know CWT is best, and of course SeaSonic and FSP are reliable too.
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all three are more than capable and reliable, channel well is the largest consumer after market OEM out there (there are bigger companies that handle direct to business sales). You can certainly say they have been on top of their game in the last ten years or so with many of the top lines they have produced for various brands.

Too often people think one OEM has a sterile lab that employees jet propulsion engineers in lab coats & goggles while the other guys are in a garage with a bunch of tech school drop outs with a 20yr old soldering gun from radio shack, cigarette danging out of their mouth, and an open cans of flammable liquids everywhere.
 
Shrek said:
the paper shield does not inspire confidence
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I can see a reflection of the adjacent components so I suspect that is some sort of plastic insulation rather than paper. Or maybe it is plastic coated paper. Either way, your point about inspiring, or not inspiring confidence seems valid to me.

It seems that insulating layer was added to the design as an afterthought. If you go back to the original image on the Amazon page, and look at the magnified image of that picture, the assembly techniques appear to be shoddy all around. There is a little black hook on the right side of that insulating layer they simply dabbed (and not very carefully) a blob of black paint (or some sort of black adhesive) on - expecting that to hold that layer in place. But then they became aware that that was not enough so secured it with a blob of hot glue.

I will note that supply is marketed for its "Compact Size" which might explain why the internals appear to be very cramped. That said I have to wonder about their math skills too as they claim,

"At just 140mm long, the GN-650 Series offers great flexibility in build configurations"...

...then they show the length to be 5.9".
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5.9 inches, according to my fingers and toes carry the 1, equals 149.86mm - but who's counting?

Yeah, I can imagine those caps bulging in a couple years due to, among other things, initial quality and lackluster cooling.

That said, it does come with a 5 year warranty which, for a budget PSU, is not bad. OF COURSE, a longer warranty does NOT imply higher quality but it does suggest the company has enough confidence in the PSU to gamble the vast majority will last at least 1,827 days (factoring in 2 leap years).
 
Shrek said:
From that page, the paper shield does not inspire confidence
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Bill_Bright said:
I can see a reflection of the adjacent components so I suspect that is some sort of plastic insulation rather than paper. Or maybe it is plastic coated paper. Either way, your point about inspiring, or not inspiring confidence seems valid to me.
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Ive seen plastic protecting a control board, I'm guessing that's what that is. At a quick glance it looked like a loose inductor coil. But why would you advertise that image? It's pure "look at our half assed cost cutting"

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To have electrolytic capacitors so close to what looks like a heatsink is asking for trouble; things just seemed too crowded to me for good cooling.

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Here is my 500W EVGA (ignore the dual bridge rectifiers as that is a modification I did myself)

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As always

Disclaimer: do not mess with power supplies as the main capacitors can carry a lethal charge even when the supply is not plugged in.
 
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