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No, it's because of bad implementationIs this because we reach the end of Moore's law?
No, it's because of bad implementationIs this because we reach the end of Moore's law?
System Name | Z77 Rev. 1 |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 3770K |
Motherboard | ASRock Z77 Extreme4 |
Cooling | Water Cooling |
Memory | 2x G.Skill F3-2400C10D-16GTX |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1080 |
Storage | Samsung 850 Pro |
Display(s) | Samsung 28" UE590 UHD |
Case | Silverstone TJ07 |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME 600W Titanium |
Mouse | EVGA TORQ X10 |
Keyboard | Leopold Tenkeyless |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark Time Spy: 7695 |
It's epidemic. It's really frustrating hearing their 'apology' knowing that it is constant and by design."Higher than normal case volume?" I see/hear that literally every time I try to reach customer service of any corporation .. it actually means "we have only few agents, because we're trying to save money and value our time higher than yours"
Processor | AMD R7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero |
Cooling | Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1 |
Memory | 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 50UP7100 |
Case | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | JBL Bar 700 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Oculus 3 |
Software | Yes |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
System Name | Personal / HTPC |
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Processor | Ryzen 5900x / Ryzen 5600X3D |
Motherboard | Asrock x570 Phantom Gaming 4 /ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming |
Cooling | Corsair H100i / bequiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 |
Memory | 32GB DDR4 3200 / 16GB DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA XC3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti / EVGA RTX 3060 XC |
Storage | 500GB Pro 970, 250 GB SSD, 1TB & 500GB Western Digital / lots |
Display(s) | Dell - S3220DGF & S3222DGM 32" |
Case | CoolerMaster HAF XB Evo / CM HAF XB Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G35 headset |
Power Supply | 850W SeaSonic X Series / 750W SeaSonic X Series |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Black Microsoft Natural Elite Keyboard |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 / Windows 10 Pro 64 |
Those CPUs will probably get dropped in one of the those cheap CPU vending machines in Japan. The one you put in a few bucks and get out a random CPU.I'm wondering what will happen to all the returned CPUs ... If there's enough of them, it makes business sense to re-test, re-label and re-sell them. Intel, Green Computing At Scale, advancing towards the Net-Zero goal!
Processor | Intel Core i7-14700K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-H |
Cooling | DeepCool AK500 WH |
Memory | Crucial Pro 32GB Kit (16GB x 2) DDR5-5600 (CP2K16G56C46U5) |
Video Card(s) | Intel ARC A770 Limited Edition |
Storage | Solidigm P44 Pro (2TB x 2) / PNY CS3140 2TB |
Display(s) | Philips 32M1N5800A |
Case | Lian Li O11 Air Mini (White) |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Fanless Titanium 600W |
Keyboard | Dell KM714 Wireless |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64 |
"Higher than normal case volume?" I see/hear that literally every time I try to reach customer service of any corporation .. it actually means "we have only few agents, because we're trying to save money and value our time higher than yours"
Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Memory | 48 GB |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |
Storage | 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe |
Display(s) | 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024 |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit |
That is a fantastic idea and would be wonderful. These CPUs will run great as lower clocked models. I have doubts about Intel's ability to change the product configuration. Afaik these fuses are one-time-write onlyI'm wondering what will happen to all the returned CPUs ... If there's enough of them, it makes business sense to re-test, re-label and re-sell them. Intel, Green Computing At Scale, advancing towards the Net-Zero goal!
System Name | Silicon Graphics O2 |
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Processor | R5000 / 180MHz |
Cooling | noisy fan |
Memory | 384 MB |
Storage | 4 GB |
Case | the one with the old logo and proud of it ;) |
Software | IRIX 6.5 |
Intel gave away Pentium 60s as promotional keychains back in the days of the FDIV bug.I'm wondering what will happen to all the returned CPUs ...
Processor | Intel i7-13700K |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix Z690-E Gaming |
Cooling | NZXT Kraken Elite 360 |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6400 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X Liquid |
Storage | Western Digital SN850X 4Tb x 4 |
Case | Corsair 5000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Creative AE-5 Plus |
Power Supply | Corsair HX-1200 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 |
System Name | Enslaver :) |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | ASUS TUF Gaming B650-Plus |
Cooling | CPU: Noctua D15 G2, Case: 2 front in, 1 rear out |
Memory | 2x16GB Kingston Fury Beast RGB 6000MHz |
Video Card(s) | ASUS TUF RTX 4070Ti OC |
Storage | Samsung Evo Plus 1TB NVMe , internal WD Red 4TB for storage, WD Book 8TB |
Display(s) | LG CX OLED 65" |
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh C Performance |
Audio Device(s) | HDMI audio powering Dolby Digital audio on 5.1 Z960 speaker system |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x |
Mouse | Logitech G700 |
Keyboard | ASUS Strix Tactic Pro |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64 |
if anything intel extended the warranty on boxed affected cpus
System Name | Still not a thread ripper but pretty good. |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 7950x, Thermal Grizzly AM5 Offset Mounting Kit, Thermal Grizzly Extreme Paste |
Motherboard | ASRock B650 LiveMixer (BIOS/UEFI version P3.08, AGESA 1.2.0.2) |
Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, D5 PWM, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-5600 ECC Unbuffered Memory (2 sticks, 64GB, MTC20C2085S1EC56BD1) + JONSBO NF-1 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate |
Storage | Samsung 4TB 980 PRO, 2 x Optane 905p 1.5TB (striped), AMD Radeon RAMDisk |
Display(s) | 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount) |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model) |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Commander Pro for Fans, RGB, & Temp Sensors (x4) |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
Mouse | Logitech M575 |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional (64bit) |
Benchmark Scores | RIP Ryzen 9 5950x, ASRock X570 Taichi (v1.06), 128GB Micron DDR4-3200 ECC UDIMM (18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) |
If you have enough of them you can make resin based tiles and tile your bathroom. Imagine Intel Inside your shower!Those CPUs will probably get dropped in one of the those cheap CPU vending machines in Japan. The one you put in a few bucks and get out a random CPU.
This Japanese vending machine dispenses Intel Core CPUs for just $3.25 a pop
The machine was highlighted by X/Twitter user LaurieWired (via Tom's Hardware), who posted that a user called Sawara-San had won the Coffee Lake S chip after placing...www.techspot.com
System Name | Raptor Baked |
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Processor | 14900k w.c. |
Motherboard | Z790 Hero |
Cooling | w.c. |
Memory | 32GB Hynix |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4080 w.c. |
Storage | 2TB Kingston kc3k |
Display(s) | Gigabyte 34" Curved |
Case | Corsair 460X |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | PCIe5 850w |
Mouse | Asus |
Keyboard | Corsair |
Software | Win 11 |
Benchmark Scores | Cool n Quiet. |
Imagine Intel Inside your shower!
System Name | Still not a thread ripper but pretty good. |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 7950x, Thermal Grizzly AM5 Offset Mounting Kit, Thermal Grizzly Extreme Paste |
Motherboard | ASRock B650 LiveMixer (BIOS/UEFI version P3.08, AGESA 1.2.0.2) |
Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, D5 PWM, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-5600 ECC Unbuffered Memory (2 sticks, 64GB, MTC20C2085S1EC56BD1) + JONSBO NF-1 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate |
Storage | Samsung 4TB 980 PRO, 2 x Optane 905p 1.5TB (striped), AMD Radeon RAMDisk |
Display(s) | 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount) |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model) |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Commander Pro for Fans, RGB, & Temp Sensors (x4) |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
Mouse | Logitech M575 |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional (64bit) |
Benchmark Scores | RIP Ryzen 9 5950x, ASRock X570 Taichi (v1.06), 128GB Micron DDR4-3200 ECC UDIMM (18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) |
Please share pictures!I've already started filling out my bathroom with 14900K's
Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASRock X670E Taichi |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 Chromax |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 4090 Trio |
Storage | Too much |
Display(s) | Acer Predator XB3 27" 240 Hz |
Case | Thermaltake Core X9 |
Audio Device(s) | Topping DX5, DCA Aeon II |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Titanium 850w |
Mouse | G305 |
Keyboard | Wooting HE60 |
VR HMD | Valve Index |
Software | Win 10 |
"Higher than normal case volume?" I see/hear that literally every time I try to reach customer service of any corporation .. it actually means "we have only few agents, because we're trying to save money and value our time higher than yours"
The mentality of take the profit now with some undermining quality, some lack of safety, do stuff with cheaper parts... and so on and on and on... and deal with consequences later... if they come... is growing.
System Name | ❶ Oooh (2024) ❷ Aaaah (2021) ❸ Ahemm (2017) |
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Processor | ❶ 5800X3D ❷ i7-9700K ❸ i7-7700K |
Motherboard | ❶ X570-F ❷ Z390-E ❸ Z270-E |
Cooling | ❶ ALFIII 360 ❷ X62 + X72 (GPU mod) ❸ X62 |
Memory | ❶ 32-3600/16 ❷ 32-3200/16 ❸ 16-3200/16 |
Video Card(s) | ❶ 3080 X Trio ❷ 2080TI (AIOmod) ❸ 1080TI |
Storage | ❶ NVME/SSD/HDD ❷ <SAME ❸ SSD/HDD |
Display(s) | ❶ 1440/165/IPS ❷ 1440/144/IPS ❸ 1080/144/IPS |
Case | ❶ BQ Silent 601 ❷ Cors 465X ❸ Frac Mesh C |
Audio Device(s) | ❶ HyperX C2 ❷ HyperX C2 ❸ Logi G432 |
Power Supply | ❶ HX1200 Plat ❷ RM750X ❸ EVGA 650W G2 |
Mouse | ❶ Logi G Pro ❷ Razer Bas V3 ❸ Logi G502 |
Keyboard | ❶ Logi G915 TKL ❷ Anne P2 ❸ Logi G610 |
Software | ❶ Win 11 ❷ 10 ❸ 10 |
Benchmark Scores | I have wrestled bandwidths, Tussled with voltages, Handcuffed Overclocks, Thrown Gigahertz in Jail |
System Name | Enslaver :) |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | ASUS TUF Gaming B650-Plus |
Cooling | CPU: Noctua D15 G2, Case: 2 front in, 1 rear out |
Memory | 2x16GB Kingston Fury Beast RGB 6000MHz |
Video Card(s) | ASUS TUF RTX 4070Ti OC |
Storage | Samsung Evo Plus 1TB NVMe , internal WD Red 4TB for storage, WD Book 8TB |
Display(s) | LG CX OLED 65" |
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh C Performance |
Audio Device(s) | HDMI audio powering Dolby Digital audio on 5.1 Z960 speaker system |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x |
Mouse | Logitech G700 |
Keyboard | ASUS Strix Tactic Pro |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64 |
dont need to a sherlock holmes to see that current Intel CPU has use like 250w compared to my 7800x3d 85w. 250w is like way too high. I dont want a sauna in my PC caseI'm not surprised at all. Intels been on a sharp power consumption upwards trajectory since 10th Gen.
There can only be 2 outcomes 1) impressive engineering built to last 2) not so impressive engineering replicating a bursting pressure pot.
I was left shouldering on the latter or in the least assuming nippier performance degradation later down the line. From the lens of a laymen, for me its the intense compo driving Intel to push the boundary a little too aggressively, ultimately compromising the much desired balance between performance and power efficiency (..and over-powered architecture reuse which often achieves unappealing incremental improvements). Push one too many boundaries and every now and then those elasticated boundaries generate a conscience of their own and hit back with a hard slap.
Processor | Intel i7-13700K |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix Z690-E Gaming |
Cooling | NZXT Kraken Elite 360 |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6400 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X Liquid |
Storage | Western Digital SN850X 4Tb x 4 |
Case | Corsair 5000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Creative AE-5 Plus |
Power Supply | Corsair HX-1200 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 |
Not doubting your stability, just stating that the intel diagnostic test doesn't test for stability all that well. When the CPU has degraded very slightly (and fails one of the now notorious decompression tests) the stability test still gives a pass. Only when CPU's have degraded a bit more does this stress test actually give a fail.
They should design a better test and they know they can
System Name | BarnacleMan |
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Processor | 14700KF |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B760 Aorus Elite Ax DDR5 |
Cooling | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 + P12 Max Fans |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury Beast |
Video Card(s) | Asus Tuf 4090 24GB |
Storage | 4TB sn850x, 2TB sn850x, 2TB Netac Nv7000 + 2TB p5 plus, 4TB MX500 * 2 = 18TB. Plus dvd burner. |
Display(s) | Dell 23.5" 1440P IPS panel |
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH Performance Mid-Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z623 |
Power Supply | Gigabyte 850w |
Yup. Corrupt OS due to bad SSD... return the CPU! Ram XMP not stable? Return the cpu! Forgot to plug your router into the power strip? Return the cpu!Like I said before everything.... Driver crash, CTD, BSOD, will be blamed on the intel cpu now. The part that is usually the last one somebody suspects is the culprit.
Thats great and all (I'm downloading that tool as we speak) but I think intel said they are working on a tool to diagnose this new problem in particular and not just.... CPU general health, which this appears to be?
Processor | Intel i7-13700K |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix Z690-E Gaming |
Cooling | NZXT Kraken Elite 360 |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6400 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X Liquid |
Storage | Western Digital SN850X 4Tb x 4 |
Case | Corsair 5000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Creative AE-5 Plus |
Power Supply | Corsair HX-1200 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 |
Thats great and all (I'm downloading that tool as we speak) but I think intel said they are working on a tool to diagnose this new problem in particular and not just.... CPU general health, which this appears to be?
EDIT: Yay, I passed
View attachment 359367
Though I still have a feeling this may not be a.... fully reliable way... to test affected or at risk raptor lake cpus....
Processor | Intel Core i7-14700K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-H |
Cooling | DeepCool AK500 WH |
Memory | Crucial Pro 32GB Kit (16GB x 2) DDR5-5600 (CP2K16G56C46U5) |
Video Card(s) | Intel ARC A770 Limited Edition |
Storage | Solidigm P44 Pro (2TB x 2) / PNY CS3140 2TB |
Display(s) | Philips 32M1N5800A |
Case | Lian Li O11 Air Mini (White) |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Fanless Titanium 600W |
Keyboard | Dell KM714 Wireless |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64 |
System Name | RemixedBeast-NX |
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Processor | Intel Xeon E5-2690 @ 2.9Ghz (8C/16T) |
Motherboard | Dell Inc. 08HPGT (CPU 1) |
Cooling | Dell Standard |
Memory | 24GB ECC |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte Nvidia RTX2060 6GB |
Storage | 2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD//2TB WD Black HDD |
Display(s) | Samsung SyncMaster P2350 23in @ 1920x1080 + Dell E2013H 20 in @1600x900 |
Case | Dell Precision T3600 Chassis |
Audio Device(s) | Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 // Fiio E7 Amp/DAC |
Power Supply | 630w Dell T3600 PSU |
Mouse | Logitech G700s/G502 |
Keyboard | Logitech K740 |
Software | Linux Mint 20 |
Benchmark Scores | Network: APs: Cisco Meraki MR32, Ubiquiti Unifi AP-AC-LR and Lite Router/Sw:Meraki MX64 MS220-8P |
have they even given full list of batch codes and such so we all know which ones really are effected cuz some of the 13th gen use older cores and some don't there was a thread that showed 2 different pics of the same model cpu and they both use different cores and they physically looked a lil different too. So they don't even have control over basic stuff like that and basic stuff that led to the whole oxidation thing.Seeing as L1Techs and some others have ways of identifying when cores aren't working properly, etc., surely Intel would be better off making a validation / check tool available to test the CPU for errors.
I'm not saying it should be used to exclude/validate RMA claims, but surely it would be useful for those who suspect an RMA is needed or those who haven't actually had any meaningful amount of issues but wish to check anyway and may be impacted without knowing...
System Name | ❶ Oooh (2024) ❷ Aaaah (2021) ❸ Ahemm (2017) |
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Processor | ❶ 5800X3D ❷ i7-9700K ❸ i7-7700K |
Motherboard | ❶ X570-F ❷ Z390-E ❸ Z270-E |
Cooling | ❶ ALFIII 360 ❷ X62 + X72 (GPU mod) ❸ X62 |
Memory | ❶ 32-3600/16 ❷ 32-3200/16 ❸ 16-3200/16 |
Video Card(s) | ❶ 3080 X Trio ❷ 2080TI (AIOmod) ❸ 1080TI |
Storage | ❶ NVME/SSD/HDD ❷ <SAME ❸ SSD/HDD |
Display(s) | ❶ 1440/165/IPS ❷ 1440/144/IPS ❸ 1080/144/IPS |
Case | ❶ BQ Silent 601 ❷ Cors 465X ❸ Frac Mesh C |
Audio Device(s) | ❶ HyperX C2 ❷ HyperX C2 ❸ Logi G432 |
Power Supply | ❶ HX1200 Plat ❷ RM750X ❸ EVGA 650W G2 |
Mouse | ❶ Logi G Pro ❷ Razer Bas V3 ❸ Logi G502 |
Keyboard | ❶ Logi G915 TKL ❷ Anne P2 ❸ Logi G610 |
Software | ❶ Win 11 ❷ 10 ❸ 10 |
Benchmark Scores | I have wrestled bandwidths, Tussled with voltages, Handcuffed Overclocks, Thrown Gigahertz in Jail |
dont need to a sherlock holmes to see that current Intel CPU has use like 250w compared to my 7800x3d 85w. 250w is like way too high. I dont want a sauna in my PC case
Processor | Intel Core i7-14700K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-H |
Cooling | DeepCool AK500 WH |
Memory | Crucial Pro 32GB Kit (16GB x 2) DDR5-5600 (CP2K16G56C46U5) |
Video Card(s) | Intel ARC A770 Limited Edition |
Storage | Solidigm P44 Pro (2TB x 2) / PNY CS3140 2TB |
Display(s) | Philips 32M1N5800A |
Case | Lian Li O11 Air Mini (White) |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Fanless Titanium 600W |
Keyboard | Dell KM714 Wireless |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64 |
I contemplated crossing due to this very reason, but the Intel support kept me at bay this is because over they years I've had impeccable service from Intel in regards to replacements and returns. Unlike some companies "cough' asus" who have left me to bite the bullet in the pastYep crossing the 200w mark is what finally ended my life-long Intel constancy which surprisingly coincided with AMDs X3D which was a big bonus. Unfortunately we can't say the same for the current uptick in GPU power consumption unless we're settling with low/mid tier cards. So a radiating mini radiator sauna it is for me, unfortunately!