run Prime95 or AVX2 specific load to see more power and you should check if it is stable after the under voltage with prime95 anyway. Use SVID adaptive mode for offset, but I guess you can only set SVID or VRM to set the offset, not both.
Processor | i5 13400F |
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thanks alot.It shouldn't be actually capable of consuming this much power in normal circumstances. 13400F peaks at 80 to 95 W depending on silicon lottery with limits removed at stock voltage.
With some UV, it could shrink to ~75 W under HEAVIEST loads.
yeah i only can do one on offset and the other on on manual.run Prime95 or AVX2 specific load to see more power and you should check if it is stable after the under voltage with prime95 anyway. Use SVID adaptive mode for offset, but I guess you can only set SVID or VRM to set the offset, not both.
The way it works is once it degrades it needs more voltage, that is. if you run 1.66 with prime95 for a certain amount of time who knows how long. if it's a game it takes longer. this means that Vmin is now migrating to a higher threshold. And that is exactly what intel says. some CPU experience higher than 1.55V VID and that affects Vmin. It just gets beaten to a pulp but still works.I'm sure you won't have problems. That's such a cool running chip. Loads of fun if you has an external clock gen.
Oh no, it's degrading!!! Well maybe at 1.66v.
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Of course. The only question is is it stable. Run more tests and if it doesn't crash under any load then you're golden. In case it crashes you should increase your voltage until it stops misbehaving. It's that simple.is -1.5 UV safe?
Processor | i5 13400F |
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Hi, yeah -1.5 was safe, temps are around 65 with 85W Power Usage.Of course. The only question is is it stable. Run more tests and if it doesn't crash under any load then you're golden. In case it crashes you should increase your voltage until it stops misbehaving. It's that simple.
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It's not likely the OP's 13400F is going to degrade anytime soon. My chip on the other hand maybe. But when I fire it up occasionally for DryIce, it seems to require the same voltage every time.Yes you leave on AUTO. but I'm not aware of the intricacies.
The way it works is once it degrades it needs more voltage, that is. if you run 1.66 with prime95 for a certain amount of time who knows how long. if it's a game it takes longer. this means that Vmin is now migrating to a higher threshold. And that is exactly what intel says. some CPU experience higher than 1.55V VID and that affects Vmin. It just gets beaten to a pulp but still works.
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Don't go putting bad ideas in his head dude.I'm sure you won't have problems. That's such a cool running chip. Loads of fun if you has an external clock gen.
Oh no, it's degrading!!! Well maybe at 1.66v.
Hi, yeah -1.5 was safe, temps are around 65 with 85W Power Usage.
it works prefect and I don't know if it's just my feeling or not but my PC feels Smoother in PR after this changes.
i reduce my PL1 to 85W Just to make some room if it needed but the PL2 is on the max.
one more thing: should I be worry about the CPU Current limit max on 511? because the intel profile is saying it's gonna put it on 307A but it won't change it the setting.
Processor | i5 13400F |
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should i even be worry?Don't go putting bad ideas in his head dude.
Is this not bothering anybody else? A 13400 shouldn't have an iccmax of 511.
OP: have you tried manually inputting a value?
System Name | BarnacleMan |
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Processor | 14700KF |
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Cooling | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 + P12 Max Fans |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury Beast |
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Well I do suppose you're not even on raptor lake.... and the cpu isn't even getting all that much wattage. And current is one part of watts, so maybe its really not getting all that much so it doesn't matter? It just seemed... alarmingly high to me. And I think the reason mobo manufacturers pumped up the current on raptor lake is because they had been doing it on every gen before that too. Still I'd like to hear somebody else's take on this.should i even be worry?
because it's a Locked CPU I don't think it can do damage to it self.
System Name | BarnacleMan |
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Processor | 14700KF |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B760 Aorus Elite Ax DDR5 |
Cooling | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 + P12 Max Fans |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury Beast |
Video Card(s) | Asus Tuf 4090 24GB |
Storage | 4TB sn850x, 2TB sn850x, 2TB Netac Nv7000 + 2TB p5 plus, 4TB MX500 * 2 = 18TB. Plus dvd burner. |
Display(s) | Dell 23.5" 1440P IPS panel |
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH Performance Mid-Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z623 |
Power Supply | Gigabyte 850w |
Isn't that just the current? Its not the iccmax. Its icccurrent. As in its currently the current. lol. jk. idk.Well if you want to be precise 88 Watts / 1 V = 88 iccmax
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Processor | 14700K |
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Case | Open bench |
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Power Supply | Corsair 1050w HX series |
Mouse | Razor Mamba Tournament Edition |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 |
VR HMD | Quest 2 |
Software | Windows |
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He won't pass 148w with a 10% swing unless he manually sets higher v-core. And being a locked cpu, it won't apply past max VID anyways; whatever that may be. Perhaps could force constant v-core through LLCmax, but I don't see the point.Isn't that just the current? Its not the iccmax. Its icccurrent. As in its currently the current. lol. jk. idk.
I just want to make sure its safe for iccmax to be so high on this cpu. Surely volts aren't always going to be 1.
Yeah I guess it should be. Since even at 1.5, it wouldn't be that much. If 88watts is all you're drawing. Its probably just me being paranoid from having that cpu die even at low voltage. Even though who knows, might not have even been related to power delivery.
System Name | BarnacleMan |
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Processor | 14700KF |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B760 Aorus Elite Ax DDR5 |
Cooling | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 + P12 Max Fans |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury Beast |
Video Card(s) | Asus Tuf 4090 24GB |
Storage | 4TB sn850x, 2TB sn850x, 2TB Netac Nv7000 + 2TB p5 plus, 4TB MX500 * 2 = 18TB. Plus dvd burner. |
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Power Supply | Gigabyte 850w |
Hahaha yeah I was a little confused with what the problem was at one point too. Is my cpu going to die? Should I reduce my power limits? I've reduced my power limits, why am I throttling? I've increased my power limits. How do I increase them more?He won't pass 148w with a 10% swing unless he manually sets higher v-core. And being a locked cpu, it won't apply past max VID anyways; whatever that may be. Perhaps could force constant v-core through LLCmax, but I don't see the point.
Under-volting the cpu is useless because he has adequate cooling.
The original thread was something about a bios update and NOT utilizing the full 148w in the meanwhile trying to under-volt because of some degradation hyper fear, now this being the third or forth thread about the same system.
I'm not certain what all the hyper fear is about. He's running one of the lowest end models available. If it blows up from absolutely no overclock ever, then he gets a free cpu through RMA either through the retailer or Intel.
No the IccMax won't matter. He needs to just leave all the shit on auto and set XMP and play the video games and be normal and happy and stop making threads over and over about it. (my 2 pennies.) Wants to run cool and save power, use windows power saving power plan and save power with power savings enabled. This is a very most basic system setup. There's nothing to really do to it. Put cpu in, turn on, play games. This aint that complicated.
Processor | i5 13400F |
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Motherboard | Asus Z790 Prime D4 |
Cooling | DeepCool 120MM |
Memory | 32GB Corsair 3200Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte RTX 3070 |
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Hi. yeah, I'm a little bit worried about the situation with the intel and that's why I opened 3 threads.Hahaha yeah I was a little confused with what the problem was at one point too. Is my cpu going to die? Should I reduce my power limits? I've reduced my power limits, why am I throttling? I've increased my power limits. How do I increase them more?
I just remember intel saying 'under no circumstances should iccmax exceed 400' and that kind of stuck with me. Though that was for raptor lake cpus, which this is technically not. But I still wanted to be sure. And yeah nobody was talking about EXCEEDING the max iccmax ( that I'm aware of). Was just kind of alarmed at how high it was (at least appearing) out of the box (511). But I guess other limits (voltage, frequency, w/e else) make it not really matter?
I do swear the whole not being able to hit 148w thing happened before he was playing around with undervolting though (Idk I wasn't part of that). The timeline is unclear like you said... cause of all the multiple threads ( though its only 2 you big exaggerator).
EDIT: No nevermind actually you're totally right, I clicked "See more" and yeah, there's more than 2, lol.