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I see what you are saying. It would be strange to develop a discrete GPU and its drivers to be only compatible with the ARM ISA.Ok, a bad statement. Article says:
"Arm is already entering the PC market through its partners like Qualcomm with Snapdragon X chips. However, these chips run an integrated GPU, and Arm wants to provide discrete GPUs and compete there. While details are still scarce, Arm could make GPUs to accompany Arm-based Copilot+ PCs and some desktop builds. "
What I meant to say is it's not clear ARM is entering x86 PC market. True, there aren't any uses for discrete gaming GPUs outside x86 PCs. Yet.
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I'm not 100% sure but cloud gaming need gpu for rendering, with or without output, right ?The article states…
“…is reportedly developing a new discrete GPU at its Ra'anana development center in Israel.”
“The team is focused on creating GPUs primarily aimed at the video game market.”
What market other than the PC uses discrete GPUs for video games?
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I havent seen brainrot this bad since the singing chicken nuggets.$200~400 range cards are not gonna pay your bills for the next gen uarch R&D, this is where AMD was at least partially smart in having to sell/make more server CPU's than say consumer/server GPU's although the AI boom caught them flat footed.
And so unless you are Nvidia DIY space is not for you, in fact stay away from PC (graphics) completely!
That's what you think, let's how see how it actually plays out in the real world where we have the likes of Google/Apple/Oracle/Amazon/FB/MS & a million other similar monopolies!Yeah, no. If NV actually, literally was the only player left they would absolutely be hit by an anti-trust.
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4060ti is $400. 4060 is $300.Nvidia's mid range is $500~1000, they've not released a "mid range" priced GPU since probably Pascal. Maybe we should all book a trip through Elon's time machine when mid range actually cost like a mid range, not x50/Ti class chips selling for 1.5-2x their normal prices or sold as x60/Ti instead.
The irony of you listing multiple companies that compete with each other as an example of monopolies is just......LMFAOThat's what you think, let's how see how it actually plays out in the real world where we have the likes of Google/Apple/Oracle/Amazon/FB/MS & a million other similar monopolies!
Maybe you should look up the word irony, on GoogleThe irony of you listing multiple companies that compete with each other as an example of monopolies is just......LMFAO
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Hey look, moving goalposts! Neat!4060 is AD107 which is historically a xx50 card.
There are alternatives to everything you just listed. Often multiple other big players.Maybe you should look up the word irony, on Google
And yes all of them are monopolies in some sectors. Or maybe you didn't know that Amazon sells products online, as well as has AWS?US Considers a Rare Antitrust Move: Breaking Up Google
A bid to break up Alphabet Inc.’s Google is one of the options being considered by the Justice Department after a landmark court ruling found that the company monopolized the online search market, according to people with knowledge of the deliberations.www.bloomberg.com
Doesn't stop them from being monopolies does it? Did you look up irony onThere are alternatives to everything you just listed. Often multiple other big players.
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Have you looked up Dunning-Kruger yet?Didn't move any post or whatever, the mid range card IMO is a mid sized card/chip ^ that market has moved substantially from even 5 years back! Maybe you should relook at teh statement you quoted?
Doesn't stop them from being monopolies does it? Did you look up irony onBinggoogle yet?
Just the tip of the iceberg of problems with ARM GPU drivers.They can make it out of Blue Cheese or Casu Martzu intead.
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GDDR ≠ DDRPutting more stress on the RAM market. IMO.
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Those are low end for nVidia mid range starts at 4070's so 4070/70S/70Ti and ends at 4080 non Super/Ti4060ti is $400. 4060 is $300.
$500 is the new $300.
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Unfortunately, he's not the one moving goalposts. 4060 is a tiny chip sold for almost same money as 3060 providing about the same performance... but two years later. And with 4090 being more than 1.5 times faster than 3090 despite being more cut-down Ada than 3090 is cut-down Ampere.Hey look, moving goalposts! Neat!
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And Apple M3 ≠ 9700X, but they still compete for foundry space. However, I doubt another minor player in the GPU space will affect memory demand, as their sales will be at the expense of someone else's.GDDR ≠ DDR
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Qualcomm makes Adreno, so there's zero chance of them doing an Arm based GPU. It'll most likely be another unheard of xinese company, like in the case of Imagination.Will arm even make a GPU though? They don't make CPUs. Sure, they make the uARCH, but will it be up to people like Qualcomm to actually design and make the chips?
It's even harder to get certified pro level drivers, so the only use case appears to be another shitty AI accelerator...Considering the level of effort required to develop and maintain game ready drivers for GPUs, I can't see many people licensing the ARM GPU ISA for gaming chips.
It's not as bad in the memory market though.And Apple M3 ≠ 9700X, but they still compete for foundry space. However, I doubt another minor player in the GPU space will affect memory demand, as their sales will be at the expense of someone else's.