The TPU UK Clubhouse

[FreedomEclipse]

The problem with wind turbines is the material the blades are made of. It's some sort of fiberglass or carbon composite that is either super hard to recycle or near or Impossible to do so.

If they are broken or come to the end of their service life, they usually get dumped and forgotten in some woodland somewhere or landfill as there is no way to properly dispose of them.

I've only heard of a few businesses repurposing blades that have a come to the end of their service life. Off the top of my head, One of them turns the blades into canoe's. The other in to skateboards or surf boards. The other 'other' business was crushing/flattening them down with some sort mill and using the fibres to make ropes or other things

(And before anyone says 'what'. Fiberglass/carbon composites have a limited service life because (a) They are exposed to the elements come wind, rain or shine - All these cause the blades to develop microfractures which means the blades cant continue to remain in service. (b) birds and 'bird strikes' - They kill a lotta birds (c) possible issue with animals ingesting some of the fiberglass/carbon that comes off the blades basically a microplastics type issue.)

 

[kurosagi01]

The problem with wind turbines is the material the blades are made of. It's some sort of fiberglass or carbon composite that is either super hard to recycle or near or Impossible to do so.

If they are broken or come to the end of their service life, they usually get dumped and forgotten in some woodland somewhere or landfill as there is no way to properly dispose of them.

I've only heard of a few businesses repurposing blades that have a come to the end of their service life. Off the top of my head, One of them turns the blades into canoe's. The other in to skateboards or surf boards.

Its ok EVs are going into landfill despite people are arguing and say they are the way forward for the environment too.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Its ok EVs are going into landfill despite people are arguing and say they are the way forward for the environment too.

Thats the problem. The Government keeps pushing people to buy electric cars with huge batteries but nobody asks what happens to the batteries after they are done and the Gov wont tell you either. Most of them will end up in landfill while some of them will get recycled.

To recycle them takes a lot of heat to melt it all down so they can separate out all the elements like the lithium, copper, alumimiun and cobalt etc etc etc. Lithium can also be quite poisonous and toxic and if you chuck a tonne of lithium batteries in a big hole and leave them there for a long time. It will eventually leak into the soil and the land as it decomposes/breaks down and that is another ecological disaster waiting to happen.

Its all about satisfying the EU.

The UK actually does really really well when it comes to pollution compared to other countries....

As you can see we are ranked 112th on the chart.

The cleanest energy is nuclear or hydro energy.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Thats the problem. The Government keeps pushing people to buy electric cars with huge batteries but nobody asks what happens to the batteries after they are done and the Gov wont tell you either. Most of them will end up in landfill while some of them will get recycled.

To recycle them takes a lot of heat to melt it all down so they can separate out all the elements like the lithium, copper, alumimiun and cobalt etc etc etc. Lithium can also be quite poisonous and toxic and if you chuck a tonne of lithium batteries in a big hole and leave them there for a long time. It will eventually leak into the soil and the land as it decomposes/breaks down and that is another ecological disaster waiting to happen.

Its all about satisfying the EU.

The UK actually does really really well when it comes to pollution compared to other countries....


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As you can see we are ranked 112th on the chart.

The cleanest energy is nuclear or hydro energy.

Australia and new zealand are pretty good, Maybe Australia is because only the outer ring of the country is actually populated, the inner bit is death.

 

[mechtech]

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Really windy last night, the tenant next door garden furniture got blown down which is crazy.
It has genuinely been windy this year, are we certain we shouldn't look at investing in some wind power.

I am aware, it went to +5c overnight and had a frost warning the other day. Although summer is back...................at least for 1 more week.

Thats the problem. The Government keeps pushing people to buy electric cars with huge batteries but nobody asks what happens to the batteries after they are done and the Gov wont tell you either. Most of them will end up in landfill while some of them will get recycled.

To recycle them takes a lot of heat to melt it all down so they can separate out all the elements like the lithium, copper, alumimiun and cobalt etc etc etc. Lithium can also be quite poisonous and toxic and if you chuck a tonne of lithium batteries in a big hole and leave them there for a long time. It will eventually leak into the soil and the land as it decomposes/breaks down and that is another ecological disaster waiting to happen.

Its all about satisfying the EU.

The UK actually does really really well when it comes to pollution compared to other countries....


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As you can see we are ranked 112th on the chart.

The cleanest energy is nuclear or hydro energy.

From outside the box Hydro. By outside the box I mean everything supporting it.
So for Nuclear,
-rough mining (diesel equipment, explosives/gases, low level waste/dust, transportation, storage, security)
-then there is refining (buildings, equipment, high/low level waste, transportation, storage, security, etc. etc.)
-then the nuke plant (high and low level waste and all the infrastructure, security, power the plant consumes, the large amount of resources - specialized "nuclear" approved items)
-long term storage - buildings, heat, security, etc.

I find it odd that so many people exclude that from the bigger picture.

Having said that though, if managed ethically, morally and properly along the whole chain, nuclear is the way to go for bulk electricity.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

A slight sneaky suspicion.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Also - If anyone here ever wants to order some genuine PTM7950 off moddy but doesnt want to because its stupidly expensive to import it in. Drop me a message and hopefully we can split the price between us. The more of us that want some, the better it will work out for all of us because the shipping fee from USA/CA to the UK is really off putting.

(there is no reason why we cant all work together right?)

 

[AusWolf]

A slight sneaky suspicion.

Good luck with that! Looks like a decent card.

Speaking of selling, I think I'm done with Facebook Marketplace. The number of people taking you for an idiot is astonishing.

I'm trying to sell a CPU+RAM combo, and someone just messaged me how low I'd go down. I said, make me an offer and we'll see. Then he gave me a number lower than I'd get in CeX. What are people thinking?

 

[kurosagi01]

Good luck with that! Looks like a decent card.

Speaking of selling, I think I'm done with Facebook Marketplace. The number of people taking you for an idiot is astonishing.

I'm trying to sell a CPU+RAM combo, and someone just messaged me how low I'd go down. I said, make me an offer and we'll see. Then he gave me a number lower than I'd get in CeX. What are people thinking?

People on Facebook will always low ball thats just how it is.

 

[AusWolf]

People on Facebook will always low ball thats just how it is.

Lowballing is one thing. Offering a lower price for some extra hassle, when I could get more money hassle-free is another.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Lowballing is one thing. Offering a lower price for some extra hassle, when I could get more money hassle-free is another.

And that's not to mention the phone sellers wanting to meet you in a pub carpark, yes i have had them, and had some guy agree a price, then he came and said oh sorry i can only get X amount that was £30 lower than what we agreed, then got miffed cos i would'nt accept his "offer"

Facebook don't give a crap about the marketplace. You report obvoious scams and they are still there days later.

I have had some good deals from there don't get me wrong, and sold stuff and got paid bank transfer to post it, yup i know how silly they are, but i'm no rip off, so do always post stuff if they pay fo it. I'm banned for life from paypal so can't use that.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I used to do some buying and selling from Gumtree many years back. I dont think ive done that for more than a decade now.

 

[AusWolf]

And that's not to mention the phone sellers wanting to meet you in a pub carpark, yes i have had them, and had some guy agree a price, then he came and said oh sorry i can only get X amount that was £30 lower than what we agreed, then got miffed cos i would'nt accept his "offer"

Facebook don't give a crap about the marketplace. You report obvoious scams and they are still there days later.

I have had some good deals from there don't get me wrong, and sold stuff and got paid bank transfer to post it, yup i know how silly they are, but i'm no rip off, so do always post stuff if they pay fo it. I'm banned for life from paypal so can't use that.

That's bad.

I usually just get the typical "is it still available" "yes it is" then silence, or the "I have to drive from X, can you lower the price". There was a bloke once who tried to get a discount on a PC (which I was selling for 100 quid) because the Windows I installed on it wasn't activated, even though I clearly stated that in the ad.

I used to do some buying and selling from Gumtree many years back. I dont think ive done that for more than a decade now.

Gumtree... Hmm...

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Interesting and pretty cool that the last coal fired power station in the UK close tonight at midnight. Hopefully that will mean more nuclear power in the UK as I know solar and wind do not generate enough 24/7 and are too dependent on how much sun/wind there is respectively.

 

[Hyderz]

i was thinking the other day, a small gym can have self sustainable energy by utilizing energy generated by threadmills, rowing machines, cycles etc etc
adding backup solar generators... food for thought

 

[Onasi]

They’ll go nuclear for sure, there’s really no other option that will be viable consistently. Unless the public, who is basing all their knowledge of nuclear power on myths and “b-but Chernobyl and Fukushima happened so nuclear = bad” makes a giant fuss.
Or, you know, retrofit all those old power stations to use natural gas and call that “fairly green” like some countries already have.

 

[AusWolf]

They’ll go nuclear for sure, there’s really no other option that will be viable consistently. Unless the public, who is basing all their knowledge of nuclear power on myths and “b-but Chernobyl and Fukushima happened so nuclear = bad” makes a giant fuss.
Or, you know, retrofit all those old power stations to use natural gas and call that “fairly green” like some countries already have.

Considering how much landmass you need for wind and solar to be viable options, nuclear is still the cleanest of all energy sources. Unfortunately, the UK is too hung up on the green energy right now. Windmills are cheaper than nuclear reactors, I guess, and the UK is all about going cheap on everything right now.

 

[PLAfiller]

Or, you know, retrofit all those old power stations to use natural gas and call that “fairly green” like some countries already have.

I feel like they will keep 'em "just in case". I mean that first winter after the war started in Ukraine, suddenly people in Poland, Germany, etc...fired up the stoves and coal plants to get warm with no gas comin, so...yeah...climate concerns went out the window right on the spot.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Considering how much landmass you need for wind and solar to be viable options, nuclear is still the cleanest of all energy sources. Unfortunately, the UK is too hung up on the green energy right now. Windmills are cheaper than nuclear reactors, I guess, and the UK is all about going cheap on everything right now.

I totally agree with the cheap thing, considering the relatively small size of the UK, we could power the whole country with nuclear stations for a total clean energy supply. Yeah the build cost is high, but they need to look ahead to the benefits of it. Also could mean stopping the cost of buying gas from other Euro countries.

 

[AusWolf]

I totally agree with the cheap thing, considering the relatively small size of the UK, we could power the whole country with nuclear stations for a total clean energy supply. Yeah the build cost is high, but they need to look ahead to the benefits of it. Also could mean stopping the cost of buying gas from other Euro countries.

I agree with you too, but looking at benefits isn't a very popular idea in the UK right now, even among corporations for some reason. Cheap labour, cheap resources, cheap equipment, cheaply done work - these are the keywords of the times we live in today. Quality and long-term gains are inconsequential.

 

[kurosagi01]

Cynical of me to say it but a big nuclear explosion to kill off some dead brain cells sounds lovely right now.
All jokes aside, indeed the UK is just cheapskates and then the people will moan about it not being made in the UK or whatever but then refuse to pay for things that have gone through all the correct procedures to making it "fair" in terms of cost of manufacturing, minimum wages, research and marketing factored in etc.
Look at all the things that are "farmed" fresh in the UK you will find them costing almost double the rate of the same product, not everyone will want to pay for it.
The same can be said for general e-waste goods like phone cases for example, why would somebody pay £10 for a UK made phone case when they could get it for £3 made overseas.

 

[AusWolf]

Cynical of me to say it but a big nuclear explosion to kill off some dead brain cells sounds lovely right now.
All jokes aside, indeed the UK is just cheapskates and then the people will moan about it not being made in the UK or whatever but then refuse to pay for things that have gone through all the correct procedures to making it "fair" in terms of cost of manufacturing, minimum wages, research and marketing factored in etc.
Look at all the things that are "farmed" fresh in the UK you will find them costing almost double the rate of the same product, not everyone will want to pay for it.
The same can be said for general e-waste goods like phone cases for example, why would somebody pay £10 for a UK made phone case when they could get it for £3 made overseas.

Because it's not the same phone case. But I guess it's something most people find quite hard to comprehend.

The same is happening with corporations. They've degraded most of our professional jobs to minimum-wage, "training provided upon induction" kind of unskilled labour, and all the big wigs look puzzled why nothing ever gets done. For example, forklift drivers. It used to be a sought-after qualification, but it's pretty much a non-existent job role these days. Now you're just a warehouse worker who happens to be driving a forklift at the moment after a quick in-house course for some reason. It's the perfect recipe for apathy if you ask me.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

The UK Gov will just buy more electricity from France at a premium.

I read somewhere that their talks to build the next nuclear energy site in the UK fell through and certain events happening outside of the UK are more important when it comes to funding despite not benefiting anyone in the UK but that is a story for another decade

 

[Ruru]

Thank u British game sellers, when I purchase a game from ebay from a British seller, it arrives to Finland in a week.

 

[Tatty_Two]

I totally agree with the cheap thing, considering the relatively small size of the UK, we could power the whole country with nuclear stations for a total clean energy supply. Yeah the build cost is high, but they need to look ahead to the benefits of it. Also could mean stopping the cost of buying gas from other Euro countries.

There are already plans to build 8 more reactors in the next decade or so apparently. The first is due to open in 2026.