Silent Hill 2 Remake - Apparently really good

[sepheronx]

So the reviews are out. And apparently the game is amazing.

I guess I know what I am ordering.

 

[Klemc]

Impossible, original wasn't, but first game was a perfect game i finished twelve times, yeah.

Imagine there is a DLC later, Maria's story !?

 

[sepheronx]

Impossible, original wasn't, but first game was a perfect game i finished twelve times, yeah.

Imagine there is a DLC later, Maria's story !?

I'm wondering too. I have my copy of Silent Hill 2 Restless dreams on xbox. I really need to replay it. It's been a long time.

Some are saying this remake is akin to RE2 Remake in comparison to RE2. So let's see, 6 more days.

 

[Princess Garnet]

I'm not sure what expectations were for this from other people. I'm guessing it was the usual complaining about... everything? That's quickly becoming one of the things I loathe most about the modern gaming community. This has really gotten worse in the last decade. I can imagine that so many old games, if they released today exactly as they were back then, would get complaints about things that just weren't issues back then. Everyone needs something to complain about these days it seems.

For me, my expectation was always "I hope it's great, but am expecting it might not be, and if it's not, it's not the end of the world" ever since I started waiting on it over a year ago, but all the stuff I've seen in the recent months has only been making me think it would be very good. I thought Bloober did good with The Medium, and it looking like it's taking notes from Resident Evil 2 while supposedly sticking to the source pretty faithfully is pretty much what I was hoping for. It might be the rest remake since Resident Evil 2 (?), and hopefully some others (*sneezes* Final Fantasy IX *sneezes*) come too.

There's Life is Strange Double Exposure later this month, and Dragon Quest III remake next month, so I'm going to have a busy next two months and I'm expecting all of them to be good at worst, hopefully great at best. Tormented Souls 2 got pushed back to 2025 but I'm okay with that if it needs it/it helps it get better (it also looks great), and Post Trauma, a game I thought might be abandoned, has a release date too!? Only survival horror title I'm waiting on firm word of now is Echoes of the Living (which just says 2024 but I'm thinking that might not be right given how close it is to the end of the year).

But Silent Hill 2 was the immediate one I was getting excited for, and my initial hope has only become optimism in the recent months. I'll admit to only sparsely looking at coverage and reviews though, since I don't want to expose myself to too much (I like going in partially blind as I tend to enjoy games better that way). Hopefully if it does great, we might get remakes for 1, 3, or 4 (3 is my favorite in the series).

 

[ir_cow]

Impossible, original wasn't, but first game was a perfect game i finished twelve times, yeah.

Imagine there is a DLC later, Maria's story !?

2 is the best of them all. Xbox version didn't have all the fog effects but it ran much smoother too.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Fingers crossed that it's at least decently remade.

 

[Hyderz]

Konami has a funky way to remaster or remake games….. silent hill chooses silent hill 2, metal gear solid chooses number 3. When the fans wants the original

 

[Princess Garnet]

Konami has a funky way to remaster or remake games….. silent hill chooses silent hill 2, metal gear solid chooses number 3. When the fans wants the original

Unfortunately, as is often the case, "what the fans want" is pretty varied. The gaming community wants to think it's monolithic but its more divisive than it wants to admit.

Looking at classic, "Team Silent" titles...

Silent Hill 2, despite initially slow sales, is often considered the best in the series.

Silent Hill 3 is typically the other one in that discussion, and while I'd say it has its own merits for warranting a remake since it suffered a bit due to development reasons and still turned out really well (meaning it could be made even better), most fans would probably put Silent Hill 2 above it, and the sales do reflect that. It's also a direct sequel to the first one, and while you could still play it without having played the first, that's still something to consider.

Silent Hill 4 was... divisive. I personally liked it, but it was different.

The original was definitely good, but most people would hold the second above it in terms of popularity.

So looking at it from the standpoint of Konami, who's basically let the IP slip away, and in an era where development cycles are so long and costs are so high, if you're going to risk that at all, the one to try it with would definitely be Silent Hill 2. Then maybe if that goes well, you look at the original and/or third one.

Resident Evil did the same thing and went with the second one, and while yes, the original Resident Evil did have an existing remake, it wasn't in the same style as the current remakes (I'd almost consider the Resident Evil remake a very extensive remaster compared to what today's remakes are like).

 

[Hyderz]

Unfortunately, as is often the case, "what the fans want" is pretty varied. The gaming community wants to think it's monolithic but its more divisive than it wants to admit.

Looking at classic, "Team Silent" titles...

Silent Hill 2, despite initially slow sales, is often considered the best in the series.

Silent Hill 3 is typically the other one in that discussion, and while I'd say it has its own merits for warranting a remake since it suffered a bit due to development reasons and still turned out really well (meaning it could be made even better), most fans would probably put Silent Hill 2 above it, and the sales do reflect that. It's also a direct sequel to the first one, and while you could still play it without having played the first, that's still something to consider.

Silent Hill 4 was... divisive. I personally liked it, but it was different.

The original was definitely good, but most people would hold the second above it in terms of popularity.

So looking at it from the standpoint of Konami, who's basically let the IP slip away, and in an era where development cycles are so long and costs are so high, if you're going to risk that at all, the one to try it with would definitely be Silent Hill 2. Then maybe if that goes well, you look at the original and/or third one.

Resident Evil did the same thing and went with the second one, and while yes, the original Resident Evil did have an existing remake, it wasn't in the same style as the current remakes (I'd almost consider the Resident Evil remake a very extensive remaster compared to what today's remakes are like).

Yeah I agree that silent hill 2 is the more popular title but honestly I remember silent hill more and the world in it was a lot darker, more sinister than the second installment. I barely remember 3 and the room

 

[Kikovic]

I am optimistic about SH2 remake. Reviews say the game is good. I am a huge fan of the series, the original team one's (4 being me least favorite of the original team).
The other silent hill games, although i played them, were not the same in my eyes. Enjoyable but not even close to team silent one's. I will be buying SH2 remake also hoping for a remake of 1,3 and 4.

 

[Klemc]

Precommand players will have finished the game the day it's out for everybody (2024-10-08). They have 48h, it's enough time.

2 is the best of them all. Xbox version didn't have all the fog effects but it ran much smoother too.

No it's the first, the true Silent Hill... but the remake looks good, i know the original remaster redubbed (HD) was unpopular btw, SH3 HD too.

SH3 on PC needs the moddb ENB, bc it's verry too bright, it becomes truely SH this way.

SH4 is not Silent Hill, but an experimental game.

SH5 is not Konami, i liked it enough.

 

[Ruru]

I should play the original first, I have finished only SH3 (and that was one hella great game, would love to see a remake of that). I have the original on PS2 though so I may finally get into it soon.

 

[Princess Garnet]

I should play the original first, I have finished only SH3 (and that was one hella great game, would love to see a remake of that). I have the original on PS2 though so I may finally get into it soon.

If you're talking about having Silent Hill 3, apparently (?), and I found this out looking it up yesterday, the PlayStation 2 version of that is worth a lot. Like, a couple hundred or so it seems. At least the NA NTSC version is. I don't know about the PAL version that you'd likely have. I had that back in its time, but no longer do. I sold it when I sold most of my PlayStation 2 titles. It's interesting to have had something and then later find out it becomes rare and sought after. Of course, I had no reason to keep it and I don't mind that I didn't, and if I did keep it, it would have been because I wanted to hold onto it, so this changes nothing, but I found it somewhat interesting all the same. Unfortunately, it seems some of those "retro" titles, which I suppose are PlayStation 2 and earlier now, are pretty crazy in prices the last 5 years. All the more reason we need releases/remakes/etc. on modern platforms.

Apparently only 300,000 copies were made and sold in NA, and that's why it's worth a lot here. Low supply and a demand that exceeds it. That's... surprising to hear that only that many were made and sold though given how positive the reception was for it. It really puts into perspective all the "Final Fantasy IX was terrible for only selling 5 million instead of 9 million or 15 million like Final Fantasy VIII/VII respectively" remarks. Even some of these fan favorites didn't sell a whole lot, but I suppose the gaming market was smaller back then.

 

[Ruru]

If you're talking about having Silent Hill 3, apparently (?), and I found this out looking it up yesterday, the PlayStation 2 version of that is worth a lot. Like, a couple hundred or so it seems. At least the NA NTSC version is. I don't know about the PAL version that you'd likely have. I had that back in its time, but no longer do. I sold it when I sold most of my PlayStation 2 titles. It's interesting to have had something and then later find out it becomes rare and sought after. Of course, I had no reason to keep it and I don't mind that I didn't, and if I did keep it, it would have been because I wanted to hold onto it, so this changes nothing, but I found it somewhat interesting all the same. Unfortunately, it seems some of those "retro" titles, which I suppose are PlayStation 2 and earlier now, are pretty crazy in prices the last 5 years. All the more reason we need releases/remakes/etc. on modern platforms.

Apparently only 300,000 copies were made and sold in NA, and that's why it's worth a lot here. Low supply and a demand that exceeds it. That's... surprising to hear that only that many were made and sold though given how positive the reception was for it. It really puts into perspective all the "Final Fantasy IX was terrible for only selling 5 million instead of 9 million or 15 million like Final Fantasy VIII/VII respectively" remarks. Even some of these fan favorites didn't sell a whole lot, but I suppose the gaming market was smaller back then.

Yeah, of course I'd like to have a PAL version as I'd play it, not just getting dust on my shelf. Looks like my SH2 CE is worth ~100USD as it's not CIB (missing its sleeve).

edit: SH3 PAL UK is around ~85EUR what I looked from ebay.

 

[Klemc]

Yeah, of course I'd like to have a PAL version as I'd play it, not just getting dust on my shelf. Looks like my SH2 CE is worth ~100USD as it's not CIB (missing its sleeve).

edit: SH3 PAL UK is around ~85EUR what I looked from ebay.

Isn't it SecuROM that don't work anymore in Win10-11 ?.. beware.

 

[Ruru]

Isn't it SecuROM that don't work anymore in Win10-11 ?.. beware.

I'm talking about the original versions on PS2.

 

[sepheronx]

Or you can simply emulate it, which works just fine on PC

 

[Kikovic]

Yeah, of course I'd like to have a PAL version as I'd play it, not just getting dust on my shelf. Looks like my SH2 CE is worth ~100USD as it's not CIB (missing its sleeve).

edit: SH3 PAL UK is around ~85EUR what I looked from ebay.

I still own them in pal version. All of them i think. Not the spin offs on psp/wii.

 

[Vayra86]

I'm not sure what expectations were for this from other people. I'm guessing it was the usual complaining about... everything? That's quickly becoming one of the things I loathe most about the modern gaming community. This has really gotten worse in the last decade. I can imagine that so many old games, if they released today exactly as they were back then, would get complaints about things that just weren't issues back then. Everyone needs something to complain about these days it seems.

For me, my expectation was always "I hope it's great, but am expecting it might not be, and if it's not, it's not the end of the world" ever since I started waiting on it over a year ago, but all the stuff I've seen in the recent months has only been making me think it would be very good. I thought Bloober did good with The Medium, and it looking like it's taking notes from Resident Evil 2 while supposedly sticking to the source pretty faithfully is pretty much what I was hoping for. It might be the rest remake since Resident Evil 2 (?), and hopefully some others (*sneezes* Final Fantasy IX *sneezes*) come too.

There's Life is Strange Double Exposure later this month, and Dragon Quest III remake next month, so I'm going to have a busy next two months and I'm expecting all of them to be good at worst, hopefully great at best. Tormented Souls 2 got pushed back to 2025 but I'm okay with that if it needs it/it helps it get better (it also looks great), and Post Trauma, a game I thought might be abandoned, has a release date too!? Only survival horror title I'm waiting on firm word of now is Echoes of the Living (which just says 2024 but I'm thinking that might not be right given how close it is to the end of the year).

But Silent Hill 2 was the immediate one I was getting excited for, and my initial hope has only become optimism in the recent months. I'll admit to only sparsely looking at coverage and reviews though, since I don't want to expose myself to too much (I like going in partially blind as I tend to enjoy games better that way). Hopefully if it does great, we might get remakes for 1, 3, or 4 (3 is my favorite in the series).

Yeah if they remake 3 its an instabuy for me. Even just for nostalgia kicks, I can still vividly remember various scenes of that game's original, and every single one was bone chilling. When the radio starts making noise... oh man.

I think I'll dive into this 2 remake too, looks good.

 

[GamerGuy]

Called me jaded, but I'll wait for actual release and playthrough and reviews from some YT'ers I trust......

 

[Vayra86]

Even some of these fan favorites didn't sell a whole lot, but I suppose the gaming market was smaller back then.

Yeah... and then triple A studios/publishers whine that games are too expensive to make and they need even more money. Its a complete lie. The target audience is immense compared to back then. The profit and revenue of the gaming market globally has exploded and keeps exploding. Its a booming market, almost all the time, since its inception. If publishers cant make a profit you know what's really going on? There are too many releases.

 

[Ruru]

Or you can simply emulate it, which works just fine on PC

When you have the original hardware, emulation is the absolute final resort (aka when the game simply costs too much to get an own copy). Thinking about getting SH Shattered Memories as well, that costs around 200-300EUR.

 

[Ferrum Master]

I don't like what they did with the char faces. Why to alter them so much, it causes conflict with my memory...

It is way too bright, not enough fog, it is too clean, not murky, damp, grimey... the improved graphics do harm to the psychological horror aspect of the game.

 

[Chomiq]

Devs are huge fans of the series and they said they always wanted to remake SH2 so I'm not surprised that the game is getting good reviews.

 

[Klemc]

Devs are huge fans of the series and they said they always wanted to remake SH2 so I'm not surprised that the game is getting good reviews.

I agree, when you like what you do, you do it well, that's true. And since people around the world being doing things they have to do to get money but don't necessarily like what they do, result is not often good