Lian Li Lancool 207

[wheresmycar]

Yep i share the same sentiments. Got into the lighting effects for a bit but very quickly lost interest and settled with a single low tone colour or minimalist approach. In-fact, my last most recent upgrade opted for ZERO-RGB: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/your-pc-atm.65012/page-1377#post-5230116 Ignore the RGB cooler - it stays off or concealed with a solid case side panel.

I'm warming up more to those fractal wood accent case types, the SFF variety or a full mesh/perforated 360

 

[Upgrayedd]

What would the point of dual rear exhaust be? There's nothing generating heat down there in the PSU chamber that needs airflow, and forcing exhaust from that area with a fan just reduces airflow from the main chamber where all the hot stuff needing the airflow is.

What's the point? Exchanging air. Taking heat out works better than forcing air in stirring around hot air.
3 fans in the front and 1 in the back isn't enough to get the heat out at a proper rate. I don't like top exhaust, it's a waste of airflow from the front.
At the minimum 140s need to become more common on the rear.

It'd go under the GPU somewhere. Like the 216 but without needing a riser. They could've done it in the O11.

 

[Caring1]

A negative should be only room for one radiator.

 

[Ayhamb99]

A negative should be only room for one radiator.

The case was designed with compactness in mind but still having support for ATX, so honestly not really a negative considering the size. Technically from what i saw it is theoretically possible to put a 280mm radiator in the front but the radiator/fan screws have to align perfectly with the case screw holes.

 

[Chrispy_]

What's the point? Exchanging air. Taking heat out works better than forcing air in stirring around hot air.
3 fans in the front and 1 in the back isn't enough to get the heat out at a proper rate. I don't like top exhaust, it's a waste of airflow from the front.
At the minimum 140s need to become more common on the rear.

It'd go under the GPU somewhere. Like the 216 but without needing a riser. They could've done it in the O11.

I have no idea where you think there's room for that. The only place that could possibly accommodate a second fan is the PSU basement, and that's a pointless place to put an exhaust fan as previously mentioned. Not only is there nothing to cool down there, but it would also actively hinder the two intake fans in the basement.

There's only room for a fan beside the motherboard's IO plate, because the expansion slots occupy most of the width of the case. At best you'd be able to squeeze some nasty, pointless little 40mm fans between expansion slots and side panel - and they'd likely be worse than the airflow you get with the open mesh right now and four intake fans providing plenty of positive pressure.

If you really want exhaust, just flip the basement fans. It's a terrible idea that will 100% hurt the cooling to the main chamber but if you absolutely insist on doing something based on belief alone, then nobody is going to come to your house and stop you from reversing those fans.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

What would the point of dual rear exhaust be? There's nothing generating heat down there in the PSU chamber that needs airflow, and forcing exhaust from that area with a fan just reduces airflow from the main chamber where all the hot stuff needing the airflow is.

The hottest things you could install down there would be a couple of hella noisy 15K SCSI mechanical drives, and even then we're only talking around 30W which will be serviced fine by the passive airflow out the back via positive case pressure.




I'm starting to see a rebellion against RGBLED on Youtube from an increasing number of streamers now. The stupid pricing, the stupid software ecosystem(s), the fragility and weight of these EVEN MORE GLASS fishtank cases, and the cable spaghetti are starting to become an irritant even for previously die-hard RGBLED advocates.

RGBLED and tempered glass doesn't have to go away, but I'm starting to appreciate that a few more cases are moving back to mesh and steel panels again, and it's a very welcome change.

As much as I like my ARGB, my taste in it is selective - I have it on my mobo, my gpu, my ram and the fans on my AIO and that's it. My case has it too, but I can control it via the front panel. I do have it on my keyboard as well, but it serves an important purpose by helping me see to type.

On the subject of the plethora of fish-tanks that seem to be the new "in" thing among PC builders now, I honestly don't see the appeal and always thought having glass as a front panel was a bad thing, as it choked off frontal air intake...but now it's being done by anyone and everyone with these fish tank cases.

 

[_roman_]

he case was designed with compactness in mind but still having support for ATX,

The space is not very well used. It's similar in size of other cases. Gamers Nexus had a few seconds the case with many other well known cases in the video.

I watched a bit the GAmers nexus video on youtube. Cable does not fit. I had similar issues with another brand and case.

What I like about GN video. They show that the sata connectors barely have bend space for the cables. That the backside of the case is not wide enough. They even showed different psu to just visualise how the space is lacking. Also I think the psu size was also a bit small. Please just watch the video there for the hole topic and summary.

 

[Chrispy_]

As much as I like my ARGB, my taste in it is selective - I have it on my mobo, my gpu, my ram and the fans on my AIO and that's it. My case has it too, but I can control it via the front panel. I do have it on my keyboard as well, but it serves an important purpose by helping me see to type.

On the subject of the plethora of fish-tanks that seem to be the new "in" thing among PC builders now, I honestly don't see the appeal and always thought having glass as a front panel was a bad thing, as it choked off frontal air intake...but now it's being done by anyone and everyone with these fish tank cases.

The fishtank cases are all extra wide to allow the front intake to be moved to the side panel. This makes the case wider than necessary to mandate clearance for fan/rad/fan sandwiches that don't encroach into the clearance zone for longer GPUs, and it also seems to necessitate the need for reverse-flow fans. Unless you never ever move your PC, and have a massive desk with loads of spare space to show off and accommodate the extra chonky case, it's harmful to most users' experience.

This is a fad. Every case manufacturer is releasing fishtank cases right now, but they're impractical for a majority of people. You don't have to buy them, and hopefully manufacturers will not neglect their more compact, regular designs. If they do, someone will come to market with a compact, affordable, decent ATX case that isn't RGBLED/cosmetic focused and that'll be a runaway sales winner that will have all the manufacturers who neglected that market segment rushing back to capitalise on the "old is new again" sensible ATX case market trend.

 

[Heiro78]

Thats the old NZXT S340 elite from 2016/2017. Its been pimped up/modded a bit for the aesthetic appeal with decal stickers, an acrylic plate with some artwork on the PSU shroud, some internal mods to clear a 2x2 push pull config on the rad, conduit piping to give the pump some visual flare, a custom design GPU backplate, sleeved cables, etc. Without some of it, its just one of NZXTs earlier plain boxes with not the best airflow and other limitations (eg. only 1 top fan mount for exhaust). Still a very functional case for todays standards unless we're planning on throwing in one of those modern higher-tier power famished GPUs in there.

Sadly i fell for the aesthetics and gave my brother my airflow performant Fractal Mesh C when taking on the S340 elite. A bit of a gamble but temps were way better than anticipated.

Even more awesome since you made it so!

 

[Upgrayedd]

I have no idea where you think there's room for that. The only place that could possibly accommodate a second fan is the PSU basement, and that's a pointless place to put an exhaust fan as previously mentioned. Not only is there nothing to cool down there, but it would also actively hinder the two intake fans in the basement.

There's only room for a fan beside the motherboard's IO plate, because the expansion slots occupy most of the width of the case. At best you'd be able to squeeze some nasty, pointless little 40mm fans between expansion slots and side panel - and they'd likely be worse than the airflow you get with the open mesh right now and four intake fans providing plenty of positive pressure.

If you really want exhaust, just flip the basement fans. It's a terrible idea that will 100% hurt the cooling to the main chamber but if you absolutely insist on doing something based on belief alone, then nobody is going to come to your house and stop you from reversing those fans.

I don't like cases with a basement. Forget about the basement. The basement here doesn't need to extend all the way to the rear since the psu is gone from there anyway. I'm more of a fan of the PSU side chamber design like on the O11 Air Mini. Some basement cases will shorten in the front to allow for the 3rd front fan to actually get it's air into the main chamber. They could do that in the rear here since the psu is moved.

Yknow how some cases have a 140/120mm above the gpu in the rear and some have a load of unused pcie brackets under the GPU since SLI is gone now. There's no room for another fan anywhere you don't think? Have a bracket that replaces pcie brackets with a fan bracket. It's not hard to find the room if you make things modular, similar to the LL 216 but without a riser.

Positive pressure isn't really that big of deal either. What's important is exchanging the air in the case as efficient as possible. Top exhaust isn't efficient if the intake is the front.

 

[Chrispy_]

Yknow how some cases have a 140/120mm above the gpu in the rear and some have a load of unused pcie brackets under the GPU since SLI is gone now. There's no room for another fan anywhere you don't think?

So your 120mm fan above the GPU exists, I don't know why you're complaining about that because the mounts are there exactly as always in almost every ATX tower case ever

Have a bracket that replaces pcie brackets with a fan bracket. It's not hard to find the room if you make things modular, similar to the LL 216 but without a riser.

Uh, this is a compact case. There's actually no room for even a 92mm fan under the GPU and that's assuming you only use a strict dual-slot GPU. Most dual-slot GPUs these days actually encroach into the third expansion slot, so to fit a fan under that it would need to be 70mm or smaller. As for the sides, a couple of 60mm fans would work, but there really aren't any good mainstream 60mm or 70mm fans on the market. Hell, getting 80mm variants that aren't shit now is difficult.

(excuse the crap annotation, I'm on a phone on a train on a lumpy bit of rail)

Maybe you're missing the point if you want fans there. Your complaint about top exhausts wasting the airflow from the front intake fans is the exact same problem you'd get with exhaust fans, because all of the basement (blue rectangle) that you don't like is air intake for the two basement fans.

Rear exhaust fans under the GPU would just spit out this fresh intake air before it had a chance to go through the GPU. In case it's not obvious, adding exhaust fans to this case actually hurts cooling with no upsides whatsoever, which is why it's a dumb idea. In other cases with completely sealed basements, it's not a terrible idea, but only as a crutch to aid the dead spot a completely sealed basement causes in the lower rear of those kind of cases.

 

[Vario]

With this style case I prefer to run rear and bottom intake, front and top exhaust. That way the rear mesh PCI area draws in air, and the CPU gets fresh air off the rear fan.

Thats how I have my O11 Air Mini setup, which has a similar airflow pattern.

 

[Chrispy_]

With this style case I prefer to run rear and bottom intake, front and top exhaust. That way the rear mesh PCI area draws in air, and the CPU gets fresh air off the rear fan.

Yeah, the trend of GPU manufacturers making blow-through coolers really really really hurts CPU air coolers.

"Hey, here's a 200-300W GPU, lets dump ALL of that extremely hot air directly into the CPU cooler's intake"

Reversing the airflow back to front is one way ensure that the selfish GPU coolers don't ruin your CPU temps. You lose any dedicated dust filtration of the front panels that way, but when the alternative is screaming CPU fans and thermal throttling, it's the lesser of two evils. I 3D-printed a duct to solve the problem once but it's a faff that needs to be custom-made for each case/cooler combination.

 

[Upgrayedd]

So your 120mm fan above the GPU exists, I don't know why you're complaining about that because the mounts are there exactly as always in almost every ATX tower case ever

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Uh, this is a compact case. There's actually no room for even a 92mm fan under the GPU and that's assuming you only use a strict dual-slot GPU. Most dual-slot GPUs these days actually encroach into the third expansion slot, so to fit a fan under that it would need to be 70mm or smaller. As for the sides, a couple of 60mm fans would work, but there really aren't any good mainstream 60mm or 70mm fans on the market. Hell, getting 80mm variants that aren't shit now is difficult.

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(excuse the crap annotation, I'm on a phone on a train on a lumpy bit of rail)

Maybe you're missing the point if you want fans there. Your complaint about top exhausts wasting the airflow from the front intake fans is the exact same problem you'd get with exhaust fans, because all of the basement (blue rectangle) that you don't like is air intake for the two basement fans.

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Rear exhaust fans under the GPU would just spit out this fresh intake air before it had a chance to go through the GPU. In case it's not obvious, adding exhaust fans to this case actually hurts cooling with no upsides whatsoever, which is why it's a dumb idea. In other cases with completely sealed basements, it's not a terrible idea, but only as a crutch to aid the dead spot a completely sealed basement causes in the lower rear of those kind of cases.

Anything is possible. You're just refusing to believe it because you don't think you want it. I'm not necessarily saying THIS EXACT CASE NEEDS ANOTHER REAR FAN. Forget about the basement fans. I'm saying, there's room and it needs to be made. Make it modular. Make cases with dual rear fans without a gpu riser. It's 100% possible.

 

[Vario]

Anything is possible. You're just refusing to believe it because you don't think you want it. I'm not necessarily saying THIS EXACT CASE NEEDS ANOTHER REAR FAN. Forget about the basement fans. I'm saying, there's room and it needs to be made. Make it modular. Make cases with dual rear fans without a gpu riser. It's 100% possible.

Is that rear fan intake? If so then it is fighting your front fans and serves no purpose. Is that rear fan exhaust? then it is taking air away from the GPU.
If you flip the front fans to be exhaust fans, and the rear CPU fan to be intake, then the rear mesh will serve as an intake without any fans added to it, and that would be sufficient.

 

[Chrispy_]

Anything is possible. You're just refusing to believe it because you don't think you want it. I'm not necessarily saying THIS EXACT CASE NEEDS ANOTHER REAR FAN. Forget about the basement fans. I'm saying, there's room and it needs to be made. Make it modular. Make cases with dual rear fans without a gpu riser. It's 100% possible.

Not refusing to believe - I'm speaking from experience as a qualified engineer with a year of study in fluid dynamics and a reasonable understanding of airflow through a volume both as a student and when I was employed as an engineer prior to my IT career.

Exhaust fans below the GPU in this particular case design is unquestionably worse, it will remove airflow from where it needs to be, it does add expense unnecessarily, and it serves no purpose when the back of the case is so well ventilated it's close enough to a fully-open design in terms of pressure and flow restriction.

If you want a wider case to fit fans where there's no room to do so here, then go and buy a wider case. There are plenty of them on the market (hell, there's an almost unbearable flood of the damn things). The more expensive wide-body cases even have modular PCIe slot covers for various configurations around GPU mounting and I'm sure you can hack a fan into one of those if you really wanted to.

Please stop complaining that this isn't a wide-bodied, modular fishtank case when it's budget compact case. You're not just barking up the wrong tree, you're barking in the wrong forest in the wrong country too!

What I like about GN video. They show that the sata connectors barely have bend space for the cables. That the backside of the case is not wide enough. They even showed different psu to just visualise how the space is lacking. Also I think the psu size was also a bit small. Please just watch the video there for the hole topic and summary.

Yeah, with a huge number of SATA trays there's not enough clearance. They're such an afterthought that it feels like manufacturers are just bolting on trays because it costs next to nothing and not even bothering to consider if your typical PSU SATA cable is going to fit or not. You can always make it work with the relevant flat adapter or right-angle adapter, but it'd be a whole lot better if cases just had the appropriate spacing/cutouts to make it work with your average PSU.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Not refusing to believe - I'm speaking from experience as a qualified engineer with a year of study in fluid dynamics and a reasonable understanding of airflow through a volume both as a student and when I was employed as an engineer prior to my IT career.

Exhaust fans below the GPU in this particular case design is unquestionably worse, it will remove airflow from where it needs to be, it does add expense unnecessarily, and it serves no purpose when the back of the case is so well ventilated it's close enough to a fully-open design in terms of pressure and flow restriction.

If you want a wider case to fit fans where there's no room to do so here, then go and buy a wider case. There are plenty of them on the market (hell, there's an almost unbearable flood of the damn things). The more expensive wide-body cases even have modular PCIe slot covers for various configurations around GPU mounting and I'm sure you can hack a fan into one of those if you really wanted to.

Please stop complaining that this isn't a wide-bodied, modular fishtank case when it's budget compact case. You're not just barking up the wrong tree, you're barking in the wrong forest in the wrong country too!


Yeah, with a huge number of SATA trays there's not enough clearance. They're such an afterthought that it feels like manufacturers are just bolting on trays because it costs next to nothing and not even bothering to consider if your typical PSU SATA cable is going to fit or not. You can always make it work with the relevant flat adapter or right-angle adapter, but it'd be a whole lot better if cases just had the appropriate spacing/cutouts to make it work with your average PSU.

If I could put it anywhere I wanted I'd put it behind the rear IO grill of the GPU. Directly behind the gpu. Sucking air through the rear gpu grill.
I really don't think it'll remove airflow by bringing the intake air to flow over gpu fans but how would you know if you never actually tried it? Just trust me bro I just sit here and think about it not working so it won't?

 

[metalslaw]

This case is a true Fractal Design Core 2500 successor.

 

[Chrispy_]

If I could put it anywhere I wanted I'd put it behind the rear IO grill of the GPU. Directly behind the gpu. Sucking air through the rear gpu grill.
I really don't think it'll remove airflow by bringing the intake air to flow over gpu fans but how would you know if you never actually tried it? Just trust me bro I just sit here and think about it not working so it won't?

You mean here? Where do your display cables go, other than through the fan blades? Your suggestions are getting weirder with each post!

 

[wNotyarD]

You mean here? Where do your display cables go, other than through the fan blades? Your suggestions are getting weirder with each post!
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I mean, that'd be actually something that does exist and by the hands of Lian Li themselves: check the Lancool 216. It has a bracket for mounting a fan outside the rear of the expansion slots.

 

[Upgrayedd]

You mean here? Where do your display cables go, other than through the fan blades? Your suggestions are getting weirder with each post!
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That's crazy huh it's almost like nothing can be offset.

 

[DigitalDude]

Will the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 fit in the top?

 

[padres84]

Hello everyone!
I'm new here so please be understanding

I have few questions to the owners of this case:
1st - Did anyone tried to mount a disc cage at the bottom? I have an 3.5"HDD + 2x2.5"SSD and would need a disc cage to mount the 2 SSD's on the bottom. Do you think it will fit and not disturb the airflow?
2nd - Can you recommend a fan to mount at the rear if the case? I think it should improve the air flow. I would like to use an Endorfy Navis F360 ARGB and mount it on the top of the case.
3rd - Did anyone add a separate fan hub ?
4th - Do you know if the PSU BE QUIET! Pure Power 11 FM 1000W 80 Plus Gold will fit in the case?