Just upgraded to 7900X3D, can't tell the difference (not in games).

[Blaeza]

I went from a 5700X to a 7800X3D and did not expect to see gains in browsing the net and general stuff. I mainly upgraded to get me on AM5, so in the future I'll have a big range of cpu's to choose from.

 

[AusWolf]

Yeah, this is true. I reckon it's probably why Microsoft declaring pre-2017 machines unsupported on Windows 11 stings so much, despite the fact that those are already 7 years old themselves. On one side, it's reasonable from many standpoints, but also unreasonable in ones that I suppose people care about the most - their devices work, and do the job, why replace them?

It is only reasonable from the perspective of a company that wants to keep making money but lacks any idea to innovate (Microsoft). Instead of forcing upgrades through locking out old hardware, they should make changes in Windows that would make us want to upgrade. Or they could just keep selling Windows 10 licences without changing anything, even that would be better than all the dirty crap that they've been doing recently.

I had a 2500K @ 5.2GHz as my media rig's CPU sometime ago, that was fine, but in reality, 4c/4t isn't just anymore a today's thing.

It's still fine for browsing, imo. One of my HTPCs has a 35 W T-series Haswell i7 (2.6 GHz), and it works with all the movies and web pages I throw at it flawlessly.

Their devices may still work, but the net today is vastly different from the net of a decade ago. Think more hardware, software & firmware threats for starters - this in itself is a logical reason for upgrading. With win 11 latest version enabling bitlocker by default, your CPU better have the power to enable it fairly quickly or you'll be throwing a brick at it for being too slow is one quick example. I experimented decrypting a drive with it using my 7600X with PBO maxed out & it did it in about 4 -5 mins for a 1TB drive. Imagine doing it for a 1TB drive with a decade old CPU like Sandy Bridge or even an FX series chip?

If you enjoy regular pauses & hesitations in loading pages today with a decade old chip, be my guest. I noticed a substantial upshift in overall responsiveness with loading web pages & all the code that runs on them nowadays between an OC FX-8350 (2012)& a Ryzen 5 7600X (2022) - it was like night & day the change. Sure the FX series were crap performers for many things but that's all I had to compare with & this was only 2 yrs ago in one of my rigs.

If by pauses and hesitations you mean Chrome loading up half a second slower, or being limited to so many tabs due to RAM constraints, then sure, a modern system is definitely snappier. I'm not saying that there's absolutely zero difference in any situation, but calling it night and day is a huge overstatement.

 

[Onasi]

If you enjoy regular pauses & hesitations in loading pages today with a decade old chip, be my guest. I noticed a substantial upshift in overall responsiveness with loading web pages & all the code that runs on them nowadays between an OC FX-8350 (2012)& a Ryzen 5 7600X (2022) - it was like night & day the change. Sure the FX series were crap performers for many things but that's all I had to compare with & this was only 2 yrs ago in one of my rigs.

Of course there is an uplift, but your comparison is especially poignant. You’d see significantly less difference between, say, Haswell and a modern chip in regular desktop use. Bulldozer just was garbage. Like, to an embarrassing extent. There actually was a perceivable difference even back when it released between those chips and Sandy. I know because I ran both and tested them. That was the era when SSDs were uncommon and with a regular HDD system responsiveness was very CPU bound all things considered. And the 8350 is a 2012 CPU on paper only - it’s a 2011 8150 wearing a new hat. To my knowledge, there were no architectural changes between Zambezi and Vishera - the latter just clock better.

 

[Fizban]

If you got more than 10fps in games I'd be surprised. Whenever I upgraded my cpu I saw really limited gains in fps. But the internet fanbois will make you believe it's a life changing fps gain.

Hint: It's not.

I have a 7900X and am skipping 9 series altogether. I don't need to spend 490$ on a cpu for 8% gain. Which would net me like 6fps more. No thank you.

You can see big gains. At 1080P. But not at anything above that, and even at 1080P it's going to depend on the game, and what gpu you are using.

 

[Toothless]

My 5950X is still doing fine , at 4K gaming not missing a beat !

5950x by all means is a good chip for any resolution and situation. Get some PBO tweaks in and it's good for a long time.

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

A Honda in neutral runs very much like a Lamborghini in neutral

 

[Onasi]

@DirtyDingusMcgee
Granted, even on the normal roads (which is what desktop usage is for CPUs) you aren’t getting much out of Lambo compared to an Accord. Well, a sore butt maybe from the stiff suspension. Speed limits are kind of a thing.

 

[Assimilator]

Man, these troll threads sure are getting great reception.

 

[Shihab]

I don't think they are trolling.
Being conscious of the fact that our perception is seldom awful for measurement is something we all lack at some point or the other.

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

That's the really nice thing about modern computers. With enough memory and solid state storage, most any decent mainstream cpu does most tasks very well. All other specs similar, an i3 runs about as well as an i7 for office, web browsing, etc. In a blind test, it would be hard for most non-tech folk to tell the difference.

 

[tpa-pr]

I'd say the main benefit of your upgrade will be longevity? Your X3D chip should stay more performant for longer, especially in gaming (which I know isn't your focus, but still).

But as for a gigantic jump in day-to-day performance, I doubt you'd see anything. When I swapped from my 7700X to my 7800X3D some of my synthetic benchmark scores were worse and my day-to-day performance felt the same. But gaming wise I saw the difference.

 

[LittleBro]

Hey everyone,

I recently upgraded my rig from a 5900X, 3600 C16 RAM, and PCI-E 3.0 NVME to a 7900X3D, 6000 CL32 RAM, and Gen4 NVME.

So far, I’ve only had the chance to install some apps, browse the web, and do some light tasks, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance difference in these scenarios. Is this to be expected with such tasks?

For those of you who have upgraded from the 5000 series to the 7000 series, have you experienced similar results?

Maybe you should browse internet harder!

Seriously, to see meaningul difference, you need workload that heavily relies on caching to memory (e.g. games). That way X3D can show it's magic. You should be able to see a difference in encoding, compression, rendering but not in light tasks such as internet browsing.

 

[Onasi]

Man, these troll threads sure are getting great reception.

I don't think they are trolling.
Being conscious of the fact that our perception is seldom awful for measurement is something we all lack at some point or the other.

Ehhhhhh, I think Assimilator might be on to something. Notice how the OP never chimed in since posting the thread again. Least he could do is acknowledge that the question was answered and he got what he wanted.

 

[Frick]

I had a 2500K @ 5.2GHz as my media rig's CPU sometime ago, that was fine, but in reality, 4c/4t isn't just anymore a today's thing.

At work I mainly use a 3570k. There's also a system based on a i5 8600, and there is no meaningful difference between the two for everyday use. The later one maybe is a bit snappier but for the job? Not really.

Ehhhhhh, I think Assimilator might be on to something. Notice how the OP never chimed in since posting the thread again. Least he could do is acknowledge that the question was answered and he got what he wanted.

Nah, it's a logical question, it hasn't been that long and everyone really jumped on him so might not be keen to returning for that reason.

 

[Durhamranger]

Hey everyone,

I recently upgraded my rig from a 5900X, 3600 C16 RAM, and PCI-E 3.0 NVME to a 7900X3D, 6000 CL32 RAM, and Gen4 NVME.

So far, I’ve only had the chance to install some apps, browse the web, and do some light tasks, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance difference in these scenarios. Is this to be expected with such tasks?

For those of you who have upgraded from the 5000 series to the 7000 series, have you experienced similar results?

And prey tell what performance difference did you expect?

 

[freeagent]

I would reinstall windows, only takes a few minutes.

 

[Onasi]

@freeagent
Peak advice BTW, definitely will help in this case. /s

 

[freeagent]

@freeagent
Peak advice BTW, definitely will help in this case. /s
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I mean.. why bother trying to find a needle in the haystack when you can just burn it and start a new stack

Besides, AMD enjoys that sorta thing, especially a gen over gen swap.

 

[Onasi]

@freeagent
Sure, but he IS running a fresh install. At least I would assume so since a new SSD was a part of the upgrade and he also says this:

So far, I’ve only had the chance to install some apps, browse the web, and do some light tasks, but I haven’t noticed any significant performance difference in these scenarios. Is this to be expected with such tasks?

 

[freeagent]

@freeagent
Sure, but he IS running a fresh install. At least I would assume so since a new SSD was a part of the upgrade and he also says this:

I missed that part apparently

 

[Chicken Patty]

I upgraded from a 5600X to a 5800X3D and for me it WAS night and day difference in most games. Mind you I played primarily flight simulators with many mods which are very CPU intensive games. In FS2020 I don't recall exactly but I saw nearly double FPS, don't remember the exact figures though. I then upgraded from the 5800X3D to an AM5 build with a 7800X3D and that wasn't as big of a jump not night and day, but was pleasantly surprised with performance. The biggest leap for me was going from non X3D to an X3D chip in gaming, all other tasks like streaming, web browsing, etc didn't feel any different even from my 5600X to the 5800X3D. The 7800X3D does overall feel a little snappier and just quicker, very minimal. But it's a new platform, different RAM, etc. So more variables as to why that may be.

What I can tell you is this, you now have a newer, future proof platform, and for gaming and pretty much anything else I'd say, you have a better CPU/PC altogether. So congrats on the update, I'm sure in due time you will understand and see that it was a good upgrade.

 

[Assimilator]

I upgraded from a 5600X to a 5800X3D and for me it WAS night and day difference in most games.

bro did you even read the thread title

 

[AusWolf]

I would reinstall windows, only takes a few minutes.

@freeagent
Peak advice BTW, definitely will help in this case. /s

It may sound like heresy, but my Windows 10 installation has been chugging along just fine since at least 3, or maybe 4 total system swaps, including various Intel and AMD platforms.

I'm too lazy to reinstall everything, so as long as I don't get any errors or other oddities, I'm gonna leave it.

 

[Onasi]

It may sound like heresy, but my Windows 10 installation has been chugging along just fine since at least 3, or maybe 4 total system swaps, including various Intel and AMD platforms.

…me when I was on 7 till September 2021 on the same build with no reinstall for a decade. And been running the same 11 install on a new PC since that went RTM for now more than 3 years.

 

[AusWolf]

…me when I was on 7 till September 2021 on the same build with no reinstall for a decade. And been running the same 11 install on a new PC since that went RTM for now more than 3 years.

That's cool, but I've had like 2 or 3 AMD and at least one Intel system on the same installation. Different SSDs, too, I just cloned the system onto the new drive every time.

A Windows reinstall was a must even with a GPU swap up until and during the XP era, but it's kind of overrated these days.