Intel Core "Special Edition" Owners' Club

[Dr. Dro]

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As it's usually the case, that's the second reason I went with the Apex Encore instead of the Tachyon X

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

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same here for my Pro X..lmao..

 

[Makina]

Beta release looks like, gonna wait for the final one before updating.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

Beta release looks like, gonna wait for the final one before updating.

nahh, I am still on an older BIOS, I don't really have issues and can't afford a performance loss joke on the new one, on the latest BIOS it forces C-States enabled on all configs, can't be disabled. I know, its not much of a deal breaker if they force it, typically no issues, just a slight penalty on latency since the cores would be idling now to C7 states (800mhz) and would take quite a few nanoseconds before it can go back up to full throttle.

 

[Macro Device]

There's a minor possibility I'm joining this club buying a 12900KS. The price is right but unsure if I can secure the quid for the deal.

I am but not this year apparently. Biz doesn't shine as bright as expected and I got things much more important than PC upgrades to take care of first. Yeah, running your own operation isn't as straightforward as being a salary man.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I am but not this year apparently. Biz doesn't shine as bright as expected and I got things much more important than PC upgrades to take care of first. Yeah, running your own operation isn't as straightforward as being a salary man.

Being your own boss is worth forgoing all PC upgrades in the world. Here's to hoping you catch a break my friend

 

[Macro Device]

It'll be fine. Been to much worse places than this. I just need to fix a couple things first.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

new best

finally got 8600MT's dialed in, feels like I can do more with this P128 chip..

 

[Dr. Dro]

Nice! I got my hands on a liquid cooler again. The NH-D15S just isn't enough to tame the KS. This weekend i'll be putting some time to do maintenance on the PC. 7600 was so incredibly easy for me, that I'm confident that with the help of a CUDIMM I can probably get 10000 MT/s out of this board and CPU. Do you plan on getting a kit too? Just waiting for the Trident Z CK's to show up around here, hopefully early next year or mid-December (though that seems wishful thinking. The 48 GB 9600 MT/s kit should run 10K relatively easy.

Mind sharing your settings (timings) for the 8600 MT/s profile? I really wonder if my good ol' Hynix A kit can manage something like that, even if pushed to the limit, and it'd be a nice starting point for me.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

hat I'm confident that with the help of a CUDIMM I can probably get 10000 MT/s out of this board and CPU

CU Dimm is a hit or miss, highly depends on BIOS, so far somebody tried it on Z790 and it works only on a specific bios (older) and it will also work only on "Bypass" mode, means it just works like an ordinary DDR5 DIMM, as to how far it went, it was just the same max frequency the tester can do with his chip, so unless Intel will allow a firmware update to let older platform users utilize the clock driver unit, its still advisable for Z790 and former platforms to use regular DDR5 Dimm

 

[Dr. Dro]

CU Dimm is a hit or miss, highly depends on BIOS, so far somebody tried it on Z790 and it works only on a specific bios (older) and it will also work only on "Bypass" mode, means it just works like an ordinary DDR5 DIMM.

Really? I thought it was supposed to be seamlessly backwards compatible (of course within limitations of the CPU IMC). Hope ASUS extends full support to at least the Apex Encore, we deserve that much

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

Really? I thought it was supposed to be seamlessly backwards compatible (of course within limitations of the CPU IMC). Hope ASUS extends full support to at least the Apex Encore, we deserve that much

backwards compatible YES, but needs more testing, and like I said on the 1st reply (edit) yields will be just the same, currently, CUDIMMS are on rarity and I saw on Amazon 1 G.Skill kit being sold for $1399 no way in hell I am paying that much for just a memory stick.

 

[Dr. Dro]

backwards compatible YES, but needs more testing, and like I said on the 1st reply (edit) yields will be just the same, currently, CUDIMMS are on rarity and I saw on Amazon 1 G.Skill kit being sold for $1399 no way in hell I am paying that much for just a memory stick.

Newegg has them on pre-sale at $389 for the high-end 9600 48GB kit, starts shipping Friday November 1

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820374647

It'll take some time to arrive here in the Brazilian market but hopefully, by then it's all tested and smoothed out. Much rather buy one of these since it'll also be used on my next build (unless it's DDR6 by then lol)

 

[Enigmatic9400]

Newegg has them on pre-sale at $389 for the high-end 9600 48GB kit, starts shipping Friday November 1

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820374647

It'll take some time to arrive here in the Brazilian market but hopefully, by then it's all tested and smoothed out. Much rather buy one of these since it'll also be used on my next build (unless it's DDR6 by then lol)

That...is quite expensive for a 48GB kit. Not sure if the speed is supported by your CPU.

 

[Dr. Dro]

That...is quite expensive for a 48GB kit. Not sure if the speed is supported by your CPU.

On a UDIMM, no CPU supports 9600 MT/s, that's why CUDIMMs are a thing. The highest performing UDIMMs are in 8000-8200 range, and that's where CUDIMMs start.

We'll really need these to become more available so people can test them more thoroughly on Raptor and Zen 5 platforms

 

[Enigmatic9400]

On a UDIMM, no CPU supports 9600 MT/s, that's why CUDIMMs are a thing. The highest performing UDIMMs are in 8000-8200 range, and that's where CUDIMMs start.

We'll really need these to become more available so people can test them more thoroughly on Raptor and Zen 5 platforms

Is CUDIMMS compatible with the Z790 platform for such high speed?

I do wonder about that.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Is CUDIMMS compatible with the Z790 platform for such high speed?

I do wonder about that.

CUDIMMs are supposed to be seamlessly compatible with UDIMMs, but like @RootinTootinPootin said there might be more to the story. If the clock driver ends up being useless on Z790 platforms (Apex Encore included), then I guess I should go after a decent 8200MT/s kit with no clock driver before they disappear.

My current RAM is fine for my needs, but I need another DDR5 kit for another build so might as well get something better soonish. I already started purchasing the parts for my next build

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

Is CUDIMMS compatible with the Z790 platform for such high speed?

High Speed RAM will always depend on the IMC Silicon Quality, from the person who tried the CUDIMM kit on the Z790 Apex Encore, it only booted on Bios ver 9905, as far as overclocking goes, it just did the same memory frequency his old kit did on the same chip, the kit ran on "Bypass mode", meaning, it never used the clock driver chip's capabilities.

If intel allows the use of CUDIMM on older platrforms such as the Z790, it will be a game changer. But I doubt they'll go that direction, ARL sales aren't looking good and currently they have been very silent on what's the next plan for the platform.