New RTX 5090 + 9800X3D build: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI a good choice?

[oxrufiioxo]

maybe you're right

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It's the frametimes/1% lows that you will notice the most. Averages are irrelevant honestly. Especially with a gpu that will likely murder the 4090....

 

[Hyderz]

i think it will be a good choice... make sure you got a nice good power supply
on a side note op can you purchase a set for me too..

 

[Dr. Dro]

maybe you're right

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The cost effective option for you is getting a 5800X3D, but since you can afford the platform upgrade 9800X3D it is

 

[dgianstefani]

If all you care about is performance, go ITX or a two DIMM board. You get the best frequency/timings on memory. Nitropath boards are out too. With 32 and 48 GB sticks, soon to be 64 GB, there's no reason to need four slots anyway.

Secondly, your boot/software drive should be Optane. P1600X or 5800.

I'd stay away from entry level ASUS and previous gen boards, grab a Strix if you can. Difference is what, 5% of the cost of your system?

 

[harm9963]

The 9800X3D will definitely be way faster than the 5950X. I upgraded from it to the 13900KS and it was already massive. I think it's worth the leap.

At 4K , not really .

 

[thesmokingman]

what exactly do i gain with even with a 1000 dollar motherboard except of feeling stupid?

I always prefer the ROG bios layout and ofc a temp input or two for watercooling, etc etc. The cheapest that I can get those two the better.

 

[Dr. Dro]

At 4K , not really .

4K high fps is pretty demanding bro. Erek plans to go for the 5090 too and who knows how silly powerful that card is gonna be

 

[oxrufiioxo]

4K high fps is pretty demanding bro. Erek plans to go for the 5090 too and who knows how silly powerful that card is gonna be

1 game isnt representative of anything and games are pretty dynamic and can go back and fourth between gpu and cpu limited scenarios.

At a min an X3D cpu is gonna give someone a smoother more consistent experience and at least for me that's worth any cost.

5090 is likely going to be 40-60% more powerful than the 4090 and maybe more in RT so a 5800X3D/5700X3D should be the minimum target with a 9800X3D ideal.


@erek selling the 5950X and trying a 5700X3D might be a good short term option and only upgrading to the 9800X3D if your system can't keep up.

 

[D007]

Bruh. You trollin? Lol
I don’t think you can get much better than that for the long-haul. I would step it up on that motherboard a little bit though. You’re going all high-end and then you’re going kind of low end on the motherboard. You’re going to limit yourself with that.
And make sure you have more than enough power on the PSU.
And make sure you don’t use crappy NVME SSDs, Especially if you’re gaming, you’re going to need a lot of storage space. Games nowadays are taking 100 and more gigabytes per game. Make sure they have fast speeds.

Have to wonder how many will regret selling off a 4090 prematurely. 4xxx was not enthralling to start with.

Well, I upgraded from a 1080 TI to the 4090 so it was a pretty nice upgrade for me. Lol
Honestly, I wished I had waited for the 5090 though. I think there’s going to be some pretty significant changes. Retracing was in its infancy as was all the DLSS and stuff and now it’s matured and I think the 5090s is really going to take advantage of that.

 

[Frick]

At 4K , not really .

Depends on the game. In say MS Flight Sim and other more simulation style games the 9800x3d will absolutely obliterate the 5950x even at 4K.

 

[Redwoodz]

Of course it will work fine, but if you want the best you missed the boat with that mobo. Future BIOS support will make a difference in the long run. I just don't understand pairing that gpu with a 2nd tier motherboard.

 

[dgianstefani]

RT effects need CPU power, too.

 

[nomdeplume]

Well, I upgraded from a 1080 TI to the 4090 so it was a pretty nice upgrade for me. Lol
Honestly, I wished I had waited for the 5090 though. I think there’s going to be some pretty significant changes. Retracing was in its infancy as was all the DLSS and stuff and now it’s matured and I think the 5090s is really going to take advantage of that.

Whichever way this unreleased product goes. I'm sure there will be plenty to discuss on TPU.

 

[erek]

At 4K , not really .

4K high fps is pretty demanding bro. Erek plans to go for the 5090 too and who knows how silly powerful that card is gonna be

5950X vs 7800X3D @ 4K was a bigger difference than I expected

so this is a good sign, right? For the 9800X3D

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Review - The Best Gaming CPU

AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D is everything that gamers want: eight fast cores, in a single CCD, with 3D VCache stacked on top at a price point of $450. In our review we can confirm that 7800X3D is indeed the fastest gaming CPU available, beating Intel's 13900K and even the 7950X3D.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[oxrufiioxo]

5950X vs 7800X3D @ 4K was a bigger difference than I expected

so this is a good sign, right? For the 9800X3D

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Review - The Best Gaming CPU

AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D is everything that gamers want: eight fast cores, in a single CCD, with 3D VCache stacked on top at a price point of $450. In our review we can confirm that 7800X3D is indeed the fastest gaming CPU available, beating Intel's 13900K and even the 7950X3D.

www.techpowerup.com

Yeah, I mean there is nothing faster currently and it should add 5-8% on top on average. I mean it could end up 15-20% faster than the competition which is crazy in 2024 the year of meager gains or even regression.

And if you don't care about efficiency you might be able to add a little manually although I wouldn't do that unless replacing it is easy for you to do...

 

[erek]

Yeah, I mean there is nothing faster currently and it should add 5-8% on top on average. I mean it could end up 15-20% faster than the competition which is crazy in 2024 the year of meager gains or even regression.

And if you don't care about efficiency you might be able to add a little manually although I wouldn't do that unless replacing it is easy for you to do...

(Might be fake)

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D review leaks out: strong 1% low FPS improvement - VideoCardz.com

First review results of Ryzen 7 9800X3D have been leaked It appears one of the reviewers may not have fully adhered to the embargo, resulting in early benchmarks of the 9800X3D CPU—a full 24 hours before the official release. We should note that the 9800X3D is officially launching on November...

videocardz.com

 

[oxrufiioxo]

(Might be fake)

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D review leaks out: strong 1% low FPS improvement - VideoCardz.com

First review results of Ryzen 7 9800X3D have been leaked It appears one of the reviewers may not have fully adhered to the embargo, resulting in early benchmarks of the 9800X3D CPU—a full 24 hours before the official release. We should note that the 9800X3D is officially launching on November...

videocardz.com

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Not very long to wait for reputable reviews it'll be the fastest gaming cpu almost by default and the 7800X3D is basicslly not worth it anymore back at 300-340 usd was the time to buy now if you want the best this is really the only option.

 

[Dr. Dro]

The 9800X3D probably won't be a night and day difference vs. the 7800X3D in the real world, but it'll undoubtedly be the fastest gaming processor around. It's pretty much the stuff you want to have if you're after the very best gaming PC around. If dual CCD 9950X3D becomes a reality, it's the only thing that may potentially be better, but I reckon it won't be cheap and it won't show its strength in most games.

The PC you brought up is the 2025 dream rig, my only advice is the one from the beginning of the thread and the same @dgianstefani brought up, get at least a Strix motherboard, they're better supported.

 

[erek]

The 9800X3D probably won't be a night and day difference vs. the 7800X3D in the real world, but it'll undoubtedly be the fastest gaming processor around. It's pretty much the stuff you want to have if you're after the very best gaming PC around. If dual CCD 9950X3D becomes a reality, it's the only thing that may potentially be better, but I reckon it won't be cheap and it won't show its strength in most games.

The PC you brought up is the 2025 dream rig, my only advice is the one from the beginning of the thread and the same @dgianstefani brought up, get at least a Strix motherboard, they're better supported.

STRIX X670E or X870E?

i have the TUF GAMING X670E Plus Wi-Fi in hand already, but can return it still if it's really that bad

 

[oxrufiioxo]

STRIX X670E or X870E?

i have the TUF GAMING X670E Plus Wi-Fi in hand already, but can return it still if it's really that bad

It's fine as long as it offers all the connectivity you need.

I think most are just surprised you are pairing a 2000+ gpu with a 500 cpu and then somewhat skimping on the board but it's more of a perception thing nothing more expensive will actually give you more performance just better connectivity and by lottery maybe better default memory timings all boards will do 6000-6400 what Ryzen caps out with on gaming.


The only other reason to consider X870E is more robust bios support which to me might be the bigger reason as AMD seems to benefit with bios over time and possibly better future support for Zen6 if that even drops on AM5.

 

[harm9963]

Depends on the game. In say MS Flight Sim and other more simulation style games the 9800x3d will absolutely obliterate the 5950x even at 4K.

money wise ,not spending for a new system , I am not in that crowd, every two years, upgrade for bragging rights. My 1080Ti lasted many years, when I do upgrade, won't go cheap, almost $4000 plus for current system that I build, with new parts .

 

[thesmokingman]

STRIX X670E or X870E?

i have the TUF GAMING X670E Plus Wi-Fi in hand already, but can return it still if it's really that bad

You want the ROG class for the bios and temp inputs.

 

[erek]

It's fine as long as it offers all the connectivity you need.

I think most are just surprised you are pairing a 2000+ gpu with a 500 cpu and then somewhat skimping on the board but it's more of a perception thing nothing more expensive will actually give you more performance just better connectivity and by lottery maybe better default memory timings all boards will do 6000-6400 what Ryzen caps out with on gaming.


The only other reason to consider X870E is more robust bios support which to me might be the bigger reason as AMD seems to benefit with bios over time and possibly better future support for Zen6 if that even drops on AM5.

You want the ROG class for the bios and temp inputs.

I’m running stock everything

 

[thesmokingman]

I’m running stock everything

And? lol nvm then.

 

[JustBenching]

If all you care about is performance, go ITX or a two DIMM board. You get the best frequency/timings on memory. Nitropath boards are out too. With 32 and 48 GB sticks, soon to be 64 GB, there's no reason to need four slots anyway.

Since I'm also looking to get the 9800x 3d as a secondary PC, can you recommend an ITX board / case that can actually fit a 4090?