NVIDIA App

[stahlhart]

Just what we all need, another launcher.

Optimization scanning doesn't work for 95% of my installed games.

Why didn't they just fix/update the legacy control panel without adding all of this unnecessary bloat?

(Yes, I'm probably trolling with this -- let me have it if I am)

 

[Dr. Dro]

You shouldn't use that anyways, the "optimization" is pretty bad as far as I'm concerned.

The "NV app" is just a replacement for GeForce Experience. The legacy control panel has to go because they need to get on with the times and be trendy like AMD and Intel, both of which have aesthetically pleasing control panels (even though between you and me - functionally trash control panels nonetheless, AMD's ad-laden control panel especially), on the other hand the NVCP was last updated in the mid 2000's and the graphics on it still show CRT monitors and 20 year old GeForce 7 cards.

 

[Ruru]

Never used any of those "optimizations", never used GF Experience, never will use this.

If it works, why it has to be broken?

You shouldn't use that anyways, the "optimization" is pretty bad as far as I'm concerned.

The "NV app" is just a replacement for GeForce Experience. The legacy control panel has to go because they need to get on with the times and be trendy like AMD and Intel, both of which have aesthetically pleasing control panels (even though between you and me - functionally trash control panels nonetheless, AMD's ad-laden control panel especially), on the other hand the NVCP was last updated in the mid 2000's and the graphics on it still show CRT monitors and 20 year old GeForce 7 cards.

Haven't used newer Intel graphics than HD 4600, but AMD's software is surprisingly fine after getting used to its layout and amount of options.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Never used any of those "optimizations", never used GF Experience, never will use this.

If it works, why it has to be broken?


Haven't used newer Intel graphics than HD 4600, but AMD's software is surprisingly fine after getting used to its layout and amount of options.

What bothers me the most are the ads and how dysfunctional the interface is, I know you can disable the ads but all it does is fill the ad space with some AMD branding... but then again these are the same geniuses that put a web browser in the bloody control panel at some point in time

I very much prefer the older Crimson-style CCC2, that was just about peak.

 

[harm9963]

Love hate this app, by default should have features turn off !

 

[Frick]

What bothers me the most are the ads and how dysfunctional the interface is, I know you can disable the ads but all it does is fill the ad space with some AMD branding... but then again these are the same geniuses that put a web browser in the bloody control panel at some point in time

I very much prefer the older Crimson-style CCC2, that was just about peak.

I quite like Adrenalin. If it means I don't have to use Rivatuner and Afterburner ever again I'm happy.

 

[Nordic]

I quite like Adrenalin. If it means I don't have to use Rivatuner and Afterburner ever again I'm happy.

Adrenaline is the one thing AMD has over Nvidia. I really like the ability to set per game overclocking.

 

[stahlhart]

You shouldn't use that anyways, the "optimization" is pretty bad as far as I'm concerned.

The "NV app" is just a replacement for GeForce Experience. The legacy control panel has to go because they need to get on with the times and be trendy like AMD and Intel, both of which have aesthetically pleasing control panels (even though between you and me - functionally trash control panels nonetheless, AMD's ad-laden control panel especially), on the other hand the NVCP was last updated in the mid 2000's and the graphics on it still show CRT monitors and 20 year old GeForce 7 cards.

I've never used GeForce Experience ever, so this was the first time ever having something like this installed -- it only recognized about 20% of my installed games, and out of those most didn't even get any sort of adjustment, just an error message. I honestly would just rather handle these things manually. Or they could have passed them through Steam in the game's properties as an option and spared us having yet another launcher application.

The concern I have is that apparently this will eventually replace Nvidia Control Panel once all of the functionality is moved over to the app -- in which case I guess I'll just keep the overlay and game optimization disabled and use it only for global card settings.

(edited the salty language in the OP, with apologies to the moderators)

 

[SoM6]

Haven't tried it yet

I heard you need an internet connection to use the app ?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've never used GeForce Experience ever

I have. I've tried it a few times over the years just to keep up on what it offers. Nothing compelling, worthless IMPO.

 

[Onasi]

@lexluthermiester
But Lex, don’t you consider *checks* taking higher res game screenshots and applying filters to them like you are on Instagram a valuable core feature of the driver package?
Jokes aside, I agree. GFE was nice, I suppose, if one wanted to use something it offered, but it was a completely separate set of features from what is actually core to a GPU driver. Mashing it all together in a Chromium based web-app and forcing people to switch is just… Hopefully a workaround will be found when that becomes “mandatory” or NV comes to its senses and leaves the CP as an option.

 

[Dr. Dro]

@lexluthermiester
But Lex, don’t you consider *checks* taking higher res game screenshots and applying filters to them like you are on Instagram a valuable core feature of the driver package?
Jokes aside, I agree. GFE was nice, I suppose, if one wanted to use something it offered, but it was a completely separate set of features from what is actually core to a GPU driver. Mashing it all together in a Chromium based web-app and forcing people to switch is just… Hopefully a workaround will be found when that becomes “mandatory” or NV comes to its senses and leaves the CP as an option.

The ability to use ReShade (ahem, "Freestyle") in cheat protected games is about the highlight of its feature set. I do not care about ShadowPlay at all - Mirillis Action! and OBS are both better softwares than it will ever be. In general, I don't really care much for GFE/NV App either

I quite like Adrenalin. If it means I don't have to use Rivatuner and Afterburner ever again I'm happy.

The NV App has re-added 1st party clock and fan controls for the first time in a very long time. As far as I can tell, it already contains most if not all features of the legacy NVCP already, although you'll still need things like Inspector to bury really deep into the driver settings IMO.

I've never used GeForce Experience ever, so this was the first time ever having something like this installed -- it only recognized about 20% of my installed games, and out of those most didn't even get any sort of adjustment, just an error message. I honestly would just rather handle these things manually. Or they could have passed them through Steam in the game's properties as an option and spared us having yet another launcher application.

The concern I have is that apparently this will eventually replace Nvidia Control Panel once all of the functionality is moved over to the app -- in which case I guess I'll just keep the overlay and game optimization disabled and use it only for global card settings.

(edited the salty language in the OP, with apologies to the moderators)

Well, it detects the games I have installed, but the settings are nonsensical

It recommends me lowering settings in Genshin, despite the fact GPU handles the game with ease even at 120 fps (achieved with the help of an unlocker tool). Like, really, this is a 4080.

AMD had an "Upgrade Advisor" tool in the Radeon app that's been equally bad over the years, all it did was basically recommend "buy our latest and greatest k thx bye" with a link to Amazon, ultimately, I don't think these are designed with honesty in mind...

 

[Onasi]

@Dr. Dro
I think the peak for me is unironically recommending dropping AF to 8x. Oh yeah, the tech that has been free performance-wise since early 00s is def something that needs to be lowered to gain... I dunno, nothing?

 

[eidairaman1]

Never used any of those "optimizations", never used GF Experience, never will use this.

If it works, why it has to be broken?


Haven't used newer Intel graphics than HD 4600, but AMD's software is surprisingly fine after getting used to its layout and amount of options.

Just another snub campaign...

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think the peak for me is unironically recommending dropping AF to 8x

Why? AF is almost a free effect. There's very little to it for modern GPUs.

 

[wolf]

Does the new app have a voltage curve editor for granular undervolting/overclocking? if not then MSI AB is still king for me. I'm quite used to and like the setup I have now with NVCP, MSI AB and RTSS, and I suspect I'll only change if and when any or all of those are retired and unusable. Not a fan of the 'modern' UI, and don't like the adrenaline software much for my AMD cards either, it's too visually messy and cluttered for my tastes, bit of a dogs breakfast even. Can't argue against it being feature rich because it sure is, it's just not my jam and I don't enjoy using it.

The way I see it, a vocal minority are jumping up and down for this (as well as AMD users citing it as a reason they don't / won't use Nv - though I suspect those same people will find/take issue with it anyway), so they have the option now, no login, modern UI, seems to work a little faster than NVCP. Knock yourselves out.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Does the new app have a voltage curve editor for granular undervolting/overclocking?

No. Only automatic mode is available, at least for now.

 

[stahlhart]

Well, it detects the games I have installed, but the settings are nonsensical

Minor point of clarification: I was referring the games that had received optimization settings and were updated with the green check mark, and I didn't phrase that correctly. It actually completed the scan with a list of about 20% of the games I had installed (Steam, Epic, GOG, EA), and of those there was only a small handful that made it that far, the rest having the grey "-" and having errored out for one reason or another. Assuming that the remaining 80% left out of the scan are unsupported, which was why I questioned the point of even having this app installed -- unless someone only plays current or newer games and then uninstalls them after they're done. I have a lot of older games in my library that I guess either pre-date GeForce Experience or the graphics are such that Nvidia didn't see any point in including them.

I took HU at their word that this was the greatest thing since sliced bread and gave it a shot, but I was less than impressed.

 

[nguyen]

Nvidia app could be a lot more useful when when we can use it to swap DLSS, Frame Gen and RayReconstruction DLL.

Currently i only use it for shadowplay recordings

 

[Dr. Dro]

Nvidia app could be a lot more useful when when we can use it to swap DLSS, Frame Gen and RayReconstruction DLL.

Currently i only use it for shadowplay recordings

There's only one detail, while it works and is known to be a nice community trick, upgrading or replacing DLSS runtime DLLs is not officially supported by either Nvidia or game developers, so this is probably never gonna happen. Fortunately, there is an app to do this for you if you are so inclined

GitHub - beeradmoore/dlss-swapper

Contribute to beeradmoore/dlss-swapper development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

 

[nguyen]

There's only one detail, while it works and is known to be a nice community trick, upgrading or replacing DLSS runtime DLLs is not officially supported by either Nvidia or game developers, so this is probably never gonna happen. Fortunately, there is an app to do this for you if you are so inclined

GitHub - beeradmoore/dlss-swapper

Contribute to beeradmoore/dlss-swapper development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Have been using DLSS swapper since it came out, it can only swap DLSS superres but not FG and RayReconstruction DLLs

 

[Dr. Dro]

Have been using DLSS swapper since it came out, it can only swap DLSS superres but not FG and RayReconstruction DLLs

Yeah, I kinda forgot, since the only game I have that supports both is Cyberpunk 2077 and I hated that game

 

[lexluthermiester]

Cyberpunk 2077 and I hated that game

Really? Wow..

 

[Dr. Dro]

Really? Wow..

I played it at launch. It was so bad. Really buggy and incomplete, and it ran so bad. Inexcusably bad, given I had an RTX 3090, and that was by far the most powerful graphics card by the time it came out. That left a really bitter taste. I hear it largely turned around, might give it an honest second chance sometime.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I hear it largely turned around, might give it an honest second chance sometime.

The only serious glitches I saw were the bendy trees(which was funny IMPO) and disappearing NPCs thing. Both were gone after one of the early patches. Nothing game breaking, even on the PS4.

Give it another go, it's worth it for the fun storyline alone.