TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

RJARRRPCGP · Nov 12, 2024

agent_x007 said:
Well, I tried :
First boot to Windows, after checking settings are applied - shut down, then switch off PSU + wait for caps to run dry. After that I powered it on again, and went straight to BIOS.
All settings were kept (date, OC settings, boot order, etc).

Note : I made BIOS "kept" settings after boot failure (just in case to avoid any false wipes due to BIOS thinking it's "OC failure").

With that bug, depending on the defaults, it very likely will search for network boot. That's how I knew.

QuietBob · Nov 13, 2024

Enjoying YouTube in 360p on the slowest 1c/2t desktop CPU (2003) paired with 2 GB of DDR1 memory in single channel. Plus a budget AGP card from 2007 and a PATA drive:

Boots to desktop in 45 s, running 32-bit Win7 with Firefox ESR. Pretty serviceable for a 21 year old architecture :peace:

lexluthermiester · Nov 13, 2024

QuietBob said:
Enjoying YouTube in 360p

To be fair, 360p is not a terrible experience. It's not wonderful, but it's totally watchable.

QuietBob · Nov 13, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
To be fair, 360p is not a terrible experience. It's not wonderful, but it's totally watchable.

True. I have YT Premium, but normally watch it in 720p. 480p is still OK for most content IMO. 360p is a bit meh but far from being unusable.

AUTOEXEC.BAT · Nov 14, 2024

I dont watch on 360/480p...the quality is horrible on a tv screen 42" also on 24" its not looking good.
I watch a lot of videos where details are shown

Little busy with my next system. An AMD Athlon 600 Slot A.
Il
Still have a problem get the SCSI adapter Adaptec AHA 2940U2W working in NT4.0
Its from a Dell with AIC 3860Q chip. A normal would be an AIC 7800?

RJARRRPCGP · Nov 14, 2024

RJARRRPCGP said:
With that bug, depending on the defaults, it very likely will search for network boot. That's how I knew.

Note, that this was when I did a normal shutdown, then unplugged the PSU cord to move it or whatever.

A Computer Guy · Nov 14, 2024

AUTOEXEC.BAT said:
I dont watch on 360/480p...the quality is horrible on a tv screen 42" also on 24" its not looking good.
I watch a lot of videos where details are shown

Little busy with my next system. An AMD Athlon 600 Slot A.
Il
Still have a problem get the SCSI adapter Adaptec AHA 2940U2W working in NT4.0
Its from a Dell with AIC 3860Q chip. A normal would be an AIC 7800?

View attachment 371605

The NT4 driver I have for that card is named "7800wnt_022299.exe" so you might be on to something.

jak_2456 · Nov 14, 2024

I made a quick vid of the oldest HDD I have spinning up and running a defragmentation:

Also, that power switch is exactly as satisfying as it sounds.

A Computer Guy · Nov 14, 2024

AUTOEXEC.BAT said:
Still have a problem get the SCSI adapter Adaptec AHA 2940U2W working in NT4.0
Its from a Dell with AIC 3860Q chip. A normal would be an AIC 7800?

That is just the bridge chip. The chip for the card is under the sticker. In a different model 2940 card I found an image of one without the sticker.

Greenslade · Nov 14, 2024

Why do older versions of pre XP keep on asking me to reformat a drive when it is the proper format?Floppy drive,And when i try to eject a drive it dose not .?I was trying to get the drivers for my card V7100 on a torrent but it has stalled at 99.4 :mad:

Now ME has stoped all together. :mad:

jak_2456 · Nov 14, 2024

Greenslade said:
Why do older versions of pre XP keep on asking me to reformat a drive when it is the proper format?Floppy drive,And when i try to eject a drive it dose not .?I was trying to get the drivers for my card V7100 on a torrent but it has stalled at 99.4Now ME has stoped all together.

I wouldn't use Windows Me if I were you. It is quite an unreliable, unfinished stopgap of an OS. I'd use 98SE instead. Also, what kind of drive are you trying to eject?

AUTOEXEC.BAT · Nov 14, 2024

Greenslade said:
my card V7100

Thats a Geforce 2 MX400 64MB?

VOGONS Vintage Driver Library

i Used it yesterday on my v7100 from Asus

lexluthermiester · Nov 14, 2024

jak_2456 said:
I wouldn't use Windows Me if I were you. It is quite an unreliable, unfinished stopgap of an OS.

Oh please, stop with that. WinME was excellent. Don't perpetuate a false and silly myth.

Greenslade said:
Now ME has stoped all together.

Hardware problem? What's your setup?

Greenslade · Nov 14, 2024

jak_2456 said:
I wouldn't use Windows Me if I were you. It is quite an unreliable, unfinished stopgap of an OS. I'd use 98SE instead. Also, what kind of drive are you trying to eject?

A sandisk 64gb flash drive and a Sonyvaio external floppy drive.Me is easy to set until i come to the point of getting the drivers on there.I have 7zip on the floppy drive.

AUTOEXEC.BAT · Nov 14, 2024

A Computer Guy said:
That is just the bridge chip. The chip for the card is under the sticker. In a different model 2940 card I found an image of one without the sticker.

View attachment 371639 View attachment 371640

Ok, my photo's:

and with sticker removed:

What would be the correct driver?

jak_2456 · Nov 14, 2024

Greenslade said:
A sandisk 64gb flash drive and a Sonyvaio external floppy drive.Me is easy to set until i come to the point of getting the drivers on there.I have 7zip on the floppy drive.

So when you eject the flash drive using the icon in the notification area, nothing happens? Also, you should just be able to plug in a FAT or FAT32 USB drive into a Windows Me PC and it should pop up; you might not need the floppy drive for now. Also, I will say that it's convenient that Me has built-in USB mass storage drivers.

AUTOEXEC.BAT · Nov 14, 2024

Greenslade said:
A sandisk 64gb flash drive and a Sonyvaio external floppy drive.Me is easy to set until i come to the point of getting the drivers on there.I have 7zip on the floppy drive.

I do not know if ME is able to read 64GB SDcards correctly. My Windows XP does the same with 128GB cards where Linux have no trouble reading it

AUTOEXEC.BAT said:
Thats a Geforce 2 MX400 64MB?

VOGONS Vintage Driver Library

i Used it yesterday on my v7100 from Asus

Greenslade · Nov 14, 2024

AUTOEXEC.BAT said:
Thats a Geforce 2 MX400 64MB?

VOGONS Vintage Driver Library

i Used it yesterday on my v7100 from Asus

Thats a COINCIDENCE you using the same card as me.I was using a 9600xt before that but it was flickering ,i take it there is a problem :mad:

I take it you are using 98 or are you using Me?Thanks for the link for the drivers.

lexluthermiester · Nov 14, 2024

AUTOEXEC.BAT said:
I do not know if ME is able to read 64GB SDcards correctly.

Properly partitioned & formatted they should be ok.

AUTOEXEC.BAT · Nov 14, 2024

Greenslade said:
Thats a COINCIDENCE you using the same card as me.I was using a 9600xt before that but it was flickering ,i take it there is a problem I take it you are using 98 or are you using Me?Thanks for the link for the drivers.

I always try to avoid torrents. Vogonsdrivers is a very good place to find drivers for old hardware.

Greenslade said:
I take it you are using 98 or are you using Me?

ME ofcourse :peace:

A Computer Guy said:
The NT4 driver I have for that card is named "7800wnt_022299.exe" so you might be on to something.

I tried that one. It gives me a folder 3.51 and 4.0.
When loading the diskette during setup, it loads the driver, but says there is no drive found.

I also tried using file 2940u2w_bios_v2572.exe to flash the bios on the controller. And it updated succesfully with status "0" what is good.
But this also give me the same result on Windows NT Setup

I was able to install MSDOS on the SCSI drive with the 2.1GB partition limit, and it boots normal. The SCSI id is 7, the controller is ID 0 if i remember good. At the end of the cable is the resistor.

Is it possible that NT cannot detect the drive because its 36GB?

Greenslade · Nov 14, 2024

AUTOEXEC.BAT said:
I always try to avoid torrents. Vogonsdrivers is a very good place to find drivers for old hardware.

ME ofcourse

I tried that one. It gives me a folder 3.51 and 4.0.
When loading the diskette during setup, it loads the driver, but says there is no drive found.

I also tried using file 2940u2w_bios_v2572.exe to flash the bios on the controller. And it updated succesfully with status "0" what is good.
But this also give me the same result on Windows NT Setup

I was able to install MSDOS on the SCSI drive with the 2.1GB partition limit, and it boots normal. The SCSI id is 7, the controller is ID 0 if i remember good. At the end of the cable is the resistor.

Is it possible that NT cannot detect the drive because its 36GB?

Do you have the same problem as me 3dmak2000 needs Direct x 7 and proper drivers installed to work properly.?
3DMark99. requires Directx6 comparable 3D accelerator to work?
Have you got yours to work?
The other thing is i have two other cards and both of them flicker?

Can anything be done about that?
Or are they on the way out?The best one of the two has stopped flickering i am glad to say.

It is a 9600xt the computer has installed * Standed drivers *

lexluthermiester said:
Properly partitioned & formatted they should be ok.

Can you sort out all the problems i have with ME and the cards flickering Lex

lexluthermiester · Nov 14, 2024

Greenslade said:
Can you sort out all the problems i have with ME and the cards flickering Lex

With a 64GB card, the best partition scheme is two 32GB partitions. One Primary and one extended. Remember to create a Logical drive in the extended partition. That should solve your formatting issues with your main OS drive. The floppy thing is more complicated. The Video card flickering might be a WDM vs VXD thing. With WinME you want to use WDM where ever possible.

A Computer Guy · Nov 14, 2024

AUTOEXEC.BAT said:
I always try to avoid torrents. Vogonsdrivers is a very good place to find drivers for old hardware.

ME ofcourse

I tried that one. It gives me a folder 3.51 and 4.0.
When loading the diskette during setup, it loads the driver, but says there is no drive found.

I also tried using file 2940u2w_bios_v2572.exe to flash the bios on the controller. And it updated succesfully with status "0" what is good.
But this also give me the same result on Windows NT Setup

I was able to install MSDOS on the SCSI drive with the 2.1GB partition limit, and it boots normal. The SCSI id is 7, the controller is ID 0 if i remember good. At the end of the cable is the resistor.

Is it possible that NT cannot detect the drive because its 36GB?

I forgot when posting does this card give you an option ROM you can enter setup and change settings for the card such as some large disk support option? When I was using this SCSI card many years ago I remember some factors you had to consider were

jumpers on the drive
- (drives might have jumpers for scsi id, make sure that doesn't conflict with setup in the option rom)
cable termination
- (looks like you got that covered)
if the drive supported LVD/SE when using the LVD/SE connector
- (some drives may have a jumper to enable that)

Do you know which service pack level of NT4 are you installing? If you have an NT4 sp6 install disk that might help.

AUTOEXEC.BAT · Nov 14, 2024

"new" screen
Belinea 10 70 40
17" CRT

Greenslade said:
Do you have the same problem as me 3dmak2000 needs Direct x 7 and proper drivers installed to work properly.?
3DMark99. requires Directx6 comparable 3D accelerator to work?
Have you got yours to work?

After installing Windows ME and the mentioned Nvidia driver before, Directx7.1 is installed here.
3DMark 99 Max is running without any troubles.

Where did you get your copy of Windows ME?

A Computer Guy said:
Do you know which service pack level of NT4 are you installing? If you have an NT4 sp6 install disk that might help.

I think i have seen SP1 during boot when i installed it temporary on IDE Drive.

A Computer Guy said:
Do you know which service pack level of NT4 are you installing? If you have an NT4 sp6 install disk that might help.

got this one now

Windows NT 4.0 with SP6a integrated bootable iso : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

It's an bootable Windows NT 4.0 WKS EN with sliptreamed SP6a with Q299444i and more. Full install NT4 with one step.No shell update integrated, only stock...

archive.org

after selecting the 2940u2w i get this screen:

I give up at NT4 / SCSI

Got 2000 SP4 now and see....
Drivers already there (no need for pressing "F6 during setup"

A Computer Guy · Nov 14, 2024

AUTOEXEC.BAT said:
"new" screen
Belinea 10 70 40
17" CRT

View attachment 371665

After installing Windows ME and the mentioned Nvidia driver before, Directx7.1 is installed here.
3DMark 99 Max is running without any troubles.

View attachment 371669

View attachment 371670

Where did you get your copy of Windows ME?

I think i have seen SP1 during boot when i installed it temporary on IDE Drive.

got this one now

Windows NT 4.0 with SP6a integrated bootable iso : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

It's an bootable Windows NT 4.0 WKS EN with sliptreamed SP6a with Q299444i and more. Full install NT4 with one step.No shell update integrated, only stock...

archive.org

after selecting the 2940u2w i get this screen:

View attachment 371673

I give up at NT4 / SCSI

Got 2000 SP4 now and see....
Drivers already there (no need for pressing "F6 during setup"

View attachment 371674

View attachment 371675

Win 2000 is much better anyway. All the stability of NT4 and a much wider range of compatibility.

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