9800x 3d vs 12900k - Battle of the Century

[kDude]

Definitely notice the consistency thing as well - I think it's actually the chipset or PCI-E. It seems to handle interrupts poorly

You mean with the temps or frames?

 

[JustBenching]

you're doing something wrong here..on all of my PC's my GPU usage is always pegged at 99-100%, yours is swaying like a gay waltzing down a cat walk.

EDIT: some of my ingame captures with GPU usage pegged and CPU just doing almost nothing.
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HIGH settings (Default for my 4060ti)+DLSS Quality (default also)+2k resolution+fullscreen exclusive

this is the PC specs running the game (i7 12700K)

Intel Core i7 12700K @ 5000 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[5qkbpg] Validated Dump by rootintootinpootin (2024-11-24 13:47:58) - MB: Asus ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 - RAM: 32768 MB

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Im testing in the village (heavier than the wilds you are testing on) with a 4090 at 1080p with DLSS set to performance...what do you expect?

 

[kDude]

Im testing in the village (heavier than the wilds you are testing on) with a 4090 at 1080p with DLSS set to performance...what do you expect?

Do you have resizable bar on or off?Heard with it ON your gpu usage is lowered.

 

[phanbuey]

You mean with the temps or frames?

Frames - bit more hitching and frame time jank than I’m used to especially during background apps and heavy IO in games (SSD streaming in etc)

 

[kDude]

Frames - bit more hitching and frame time jank than I’m used to especially during background apps and heavy IO in games (SSD streaming in etc)

I usually have stuff running in the background that I listen too when I play games (streams,discord,steam etc).Starting to wonder if it's going to be an issue with this cpu since both you and Justbenching reported the same thing.
Granted the cpu just released maybe a future chipset update could fix the huge variability/frametime jank?

 

[Akkedie]

This thread is quite fascinating and scary.

I've been dragging out a i7 2600k gtx1070 and life has just easily plodded along. GTAV, Fortnite, ETS, RDR2, farm sims - that kind of stuff. With black Friday and the end coming to win 10 next year I figured I really should upgrade.
Not going to lie, this post has really scared me off the hassle of it all. Newer CPU's seem to be ovens and windows 11 seems irritating!

Trust me the upgrade will feel godlike, even in these older games and even with an older GPU (I've got an RX6800). I went from an i7 6800K to an R5 7600 and it's been so great in terms of smoothness and overall feel of the system, both in-game and out of it. 90% of my gaming is Path of Exile and even then it's made a huge difference. Definitely don't skimp on ram. I went for 32 GB and it's been great vs 16, but thinking I'll do 64 GB soon. You don't realise how much swapping occurs until you have enough RAM where it doesn't need to happen as often, which helps overall. I really wouldn't worry about cooling, OP is a lot more OC & tuning-minded and testing uncapped scenarios, you can for sure have it run just fine with little hassle (plus with a framecap it's not going to be a problem in the least).

One thing you are dead right on, fuck W11. Wish I just stayed with W10. Can't tell you how much I hate this POS. Cba to change right now but seriously thinking I'll go back and also start adapting to Linux. Don't want Windows anymore if this is where it's going.

 

[phanbuey]

More hitching and frametime jank compared to what cpu?

13700KF @5.5 w/ 7600Mhz C34 DDR5 on z690 (Msi 690I Unify)

Don't get me wrong it's definitely faster and less janky in games where the 13700KF cpu was struggling (Remnant 2 multi) - but the load in stutters and shader comp stuff is still there, and more noticeable since you're now stuttering @200 fps. I actually think some bios updates and maturing will fix it, and windows patches since W11 is just awful, i've made it much less noticeable with priorty separation and some software tweaking.

One thing you are dead right on, fuck W11. Wish I just stayed with W10. Can't tell you how much I hate this POS. Cba to change right now but seriously thinking I'll go back and also start adapting to Linux. Don't want Windows anymore if this is where it's going.

QFT - W11... is... so bad. It's terrifying that they spent so much effort making something worse.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

13700KF @5.5 w/ 7600Mhz C34 DDR5 on z690 (Msi 690I Unify)

Don't get me wrong it's definitely faster and less janky in games where the 13700KF cpu was struggling (Remnant 2 multi) - but the load in stutters and shader comp stuff is still there, and more noticeable since you're now stuttering @200 fps. I actually think some bios updates and maturing will fix it, and windows patches since W11 is just awful, i've made it much less noticeable with priorty separation and some software tweaking.


QFT - W11... is... so bad. It's terrifying that they spent so much effort making something worse.

I noticed that as well with my 5950X vs 7950X3D/7800X3D in games that have stutter issues it's way more obvious becuase the base framerate is so much higher it's a big reason I play capped in a lot of SP stuff at 90fps