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9800x 3d vs 12900k - Battle of the Century

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do I look like running XMP? its always forever 24/7 8600MT's for me.

I am native just disabled the adaptive resolution thingy

I with E-Cores ON. Can't be really bothered with always going into the BIOS and dialing stuff, once I set, save as a profile and just forget about it, boot and play.
Then use dlss, you are probably gpu bound. My 12900k gets 191 at stock so you can't be at 195.

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With DLSS to ULTRA PERFORMANCE as the same as your setting.
99% GPU Usage, CPU is now hovering between 25-27% usage

oh, you're using a 4090..hahaha..Mine is measly.
Called it a couple of posts ago, tuned 9800x3d should be roundabout tuned 14900k performance.
 
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Then use dlss, you are probably gpu bound. My 12900k gets 191 at stock so you can't be at 195.


Called it a couple of posts ago, tuned 9800x3d should be roundabout tuned 14900k performance.
Intel doesn't have anything to compare to a 9800X3D. This cpu is 120w only. 120w. Medium size air cooler. use 2009 Opteron heat pipe cooler (wraith prism) to cool this chip.
Tuned 14900K is 253 default haha. 16t e-core off, Say 5.9ghz average p-core oc, 280w. The entire thread is laughable honestly. Close to Intel vs AMD FX thread, but AMD vs Intel is actually against the forum rules, so I've refrained from posting up to this point.
 
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This cpu is 120w only. 120w. Medium size air cooler. use 2009 Opteron heat pipe cooler (wraith prism) to cool this chip.



Maybe I need to upgrade to a wraith prism cause im hitting 90 to 96c. Do you know where to buy it from? I can find one for 127€ from my local retailer. Don't mind testing it but I ain't paying 130€ for it.



We got another one. 9800x 3d is still faster, but it's still melting

 
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Maybe I need to upgrade to a wraith prism cause im hitting 90 to 96c. Do you know where to buy it from? I can find one for 127€ from my local retailer. Don't mind testing it but I ain't paying 130€ for it.



We got another one. 9800x 3d is still faster, but it's still melting


I’d check that mount tbh, abnormal to see those temps.

NH-D15 with 1 fan running 600 rpm, stock and no PBO, package hit 125w and with multiple background apps, peaked 74c
 

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I’d check that mount tbh, abnormal to see those temps.

NH-D15 with 1 fan running 600 rpm, stock and no PBO, package hit 125w and with multiple background apps, peaked 74c
Remounted twice, used LM, nope, still scorching.

W1zard is using a d15 in his review, he still hit 87C at stock
 
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Remounted twice, used LM, nope, still scorching.

W1zard is using a d15 in his review, he still hit 87C at stock

If you’re running auto voltages good chances 1.2.0.2a is slamming your vsoc, vddio, and vddg voltages.

Stock vddg is 850mv afaik, at least it use to be, my x870e strix e was slamming 1050mv instead, for absolutely no reason. VSOC and Vddio left on auto will also be unecessary, auto settings some bioses are currently setting some really stupid **** with these voltages.

DDR5 6000-6400 may need vsoc adjustment, but shouldn’t require more than 1.3 to 1.35 for vddio, auto and or expo may be setting it at 1.4v+, which again is unnecessary. Adding lots of heat for nothing.
 
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If you’re running auto voltages good chances 1.2.0.2a is slamming your vsoc, vddio, and vddg voltages.

Stock vddg is 850mv afaik, at least it use to be, my x870e strix e was slamming 1050mv instead, for absolutely no reason. VSOC and Vddio left on auto will also be unecessary, auto settings some bioses are currently setting some really stupid **** with these voltages.

DDR5 6000-6400 may need vsoc adjustment, but shouldn’t require more than 1.3 to 1.35 for vddio, auto and or expo may be setting it at 1.4v+, which again is unnecessary. Adding lots of heat for nothing.
I have manually set everything 1.25v soc (can't stabilize 6400 with lower than that), 1.35 VDDIO (maybe I can drop this one, haven't tested). I don't think voltage is the issue, since voltage would result in higher power draw. The problem is that even with low power draw temps are high. I've managed to drop temps a bit with liquid metal but im still hitting 85-90c running CPU Z (around 140 watts). At least no more 96c and throttling.

Im gonna get a delid kit and either the high performance IHS or run direct die, haven't decided yet.

But I definitely wouldn't call this an easy to cool chip. In fact the last time I've seen something this bad was with the 8700k- which I also delided.

EG1. With PBO disabled gaming is very manageable as I said before, but MT workloads are not, PBO or not doesn't make a difference, clocks drop below the stock 5225 anyways regardless of PBO.
 
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I have manually set everything 1.25v soc (can't stabilize 6400 with lower than that), 1.35 VDDIO (maybe I can drop this one, haven't tested). I don't think voltage is the issue, since voltage would result in higher power draw. The problem is that even with low power draw temps are high. I've managed to drop temps a bit with liquid metal but im still hitting 85-90c running CPU Z (around 140 watts). At least no more 96c and throttling.

Im gonna get a delid kit and either the high performance IHS or run direct die, haven't decided yet.

But I definitely wouldn't call this an easy to cool chip. In fact the last time I've seen something this bad was with the 8700k- which I also delided.

EG1. With PBO disabled gaming is very manageable as I said before, but MT workloads are not, PBO or not doesn't make a difference, clocks drop below the stock 5225 anyways regardless of PBO.

My experience has been the complete opposite so far. Similar to my 9700x, and not a flaming fireball like my 14700k.

In the few games I’ve played an have installed, my chip is mainly sitting in the mid 50s, will jump to 60s during loading.
 
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My experience has been the complete opposite so far. Similar to my 9700x, and not a flaming fireball like my 14700k.

In the few games I’ve played an have installed, my chip is mainly sitting in the mid 50s, will jump to 60s during loading.
Can you try Veilguard or TLOU? Cause even without PBO (assuming your GPU can push it) im hitting the same power draw as my 12900k and 80-85C. Most other games are fine but the heavy ones are still pulling power - temps.
 
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Can you try Veilguard or TLOU? Cause even without PBO (assuming your GPU can push it) im hitting the same power draw as my 12900k and 80-85C. Most other games are fine but the heavy ones are still pulling power - temps.

Currently dont own either of those games. The heaviest cpu oriented game I can think of atm that I own may be Helldivers 2 or CP2077.
 
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Currently dont own either of those games. The heaviest cpu oriented game I can think of atm that I own may be Helldivers 2 or CP2077.
CP (with PBO off) usually stays at 90w so isn't that bad. I have helldivers but haven't gotten around to testing it yet.
 
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