Postulation: Is anyone else concerned with the proliferation of AI?

[patriotpa]

Any avid science fiction reader who has read Azimov knows the horrors that will most likely result IF AI is allowed to run unchecked. The end of the human race, and quite possibly all organic lie on Earth may be the result. Think Terminator.

 

[Scattergrunt]

I am FOR AI as a tool, but not in any sort of way to replace anything of any sort unless that'd benefit people purely. I believe that AI is worse off being in this little 'bubble' that its currently in where its all marketing, and nothing else. I've used many forms of AI, and it can be quite a tool under the right circumstances. But theres also a equal amount of ability for AI to be abused too in a way it shouldn't (in my opinion) be used.

I am not worried about anything like world ending scenarios, skynet, AI revolution, whatever, because most of the ''examples'' or ''evidence'' of those possibilities are usually staged or just experiments as is. Take one example where ChatGPT was given strict instructions to make copies of itself in an event it was theoretically shutdown (if someone could link the source of that, please do so), because almost all AI will listen to an instruction to the best of its abilities.

AI doesn't belong in military weaponry, power grids, etc, but I could see it being something akin to our smartphones or etc. A tool we can all use; not abuse. Which is unfortunately what it seems like many people are doing with AI.

 

[eidairaman1]

I am FOR AI as a tool, but not in any sort of way to replace anything of any sort unless that'd benefit people purely. I believe that AI is worse off being in this little 'bubble' that its currently in where its all marketing, and nothing else. I've used many forms of AI, and it can be quite a tool under the right circumstances. But theres also a equal amount of ability for AI to be abused too in a way it shouldn't (in my opinion) be used.

I am not worried about anything like world ending scenarios, skynet, AI revolution, whatever, because most of the ''examples'' or ''evidence'' of those possibilities are usually staged or just experiments as is. Take one example where ChatGPT was given strict instructions to make copies of itself in an event it was theoretically shutdown (if someone could link the source of that, please do so), because almost all AI will listen to an instruction to the best of its abilities.

AI doesn't belong in military weaponry, power grids, etc, but I could see it being something akin to our smartphones or etc. A tool we can all use; not abuse. Which is unfortunately what it seems like many people are doing with AI.

Ai should have no access to financial systems either

 

[Macro Device]

@Macro Device mentioned kevlar vests, which sure you can abuse those, but you can't do it on scale, like hundreds of millions of people kind of scale.

Challenge accepted.

 

[AusWolf]

I guess we have a different definition for an independent act.

If I give one of my techs the job to go wire a new house for ethernet, and I let him or her decide which walls to put the ports on, where to put the distribution panel, how to route the cables through the walls, floors, ceilings, etc. then he has the "independent" authority to do it how he wants and deems best for the job. Just because I gave him the task, or you told AI what the subject of the essay should be, that does not mean how they accomplish those tasks are not done at their own independent discretions.

Being able to conduct independent acts does not automatically imply the AI is totally autonomous or that it, and only it, can pick and choose what it does. The fear is that it could get to that point. Fortunately, we are not there - yet.



I disagree with much of that. No, it didn't talk about the weather or ask why you need the essay. But it might seek out information from other sources. And it definitely is NOT simple input-output. AI can analyze a set (or sets) of data and derive and develop conclusions, and make suggestions based on that data and on past patterns of behavior by you, and by others. That is NOT simple input-output.

I respect your opinion, but I agree that we disagree.

If you give one of your techs a job, he'll understand why he needs to do it, who you are, why the job is important, what experience he might gain from it, how long it should take, etc. There's a lot more to a job than the job itself. There's always context, which is what AI cannot grasp.

You're right, analysing data sets isn't simple input-output. It's multiple inputs and a single output. Slightly more complex, but I still wouldn't call it "intelligent". When you write an essay, you know what information is relevant and what is important. Sure, AI can sift through data much faster, and can collate it into readable form much faster, but it lacks judgement to decide what's right and wrong. It works with large quantities of information, not necessarily with correct information.

 

[Bill_Bright]

There's a lot more to a job than the job itself.

Exactly my point. By your description, my tech would only put the Ethernet port on the south (for example) wall because that is how I trained them. Or if some unexpected issue came up that my tech would come to a stop and do nothing until he got further instructions from me. That is wrong. My techs have the responsibility and the authority to go with it to adapt, improvise, modify, and veer from standard procedures as the needs arises. That is being "independent".

You think AI is just a bunch of 1s and 0s. Sorry, but it is not.

 

[AusWolf]

Exactly my point. By your description, my tech would only put the Ethernet port on the south (for example) wall because that is how I trained them. Or if some unexpected issue came up that my tech would come to a stop and do nothing until he got further instructions from me. That is wrong. My techs have the responsibility and the authority to go with it to adapt, improvise, modify, and veer from standard procedures as the needs arises. That is being "independent".

Sure, but they also know the context around the job, not only the job itself. They also know how to ask questions, not to mention thinking outside of the job. That's where intelligence begins, imo.

You think AI is just a bunch of 1s and 0s. Sorry, but it is not.

What is it, then? Everything in a computer is just a bunch of 1s and 0s.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I give. Moving on.

 

[Shrek]

Pandora's box has been opened, there is no stopping AI

Stephen Hawking's chilling AI warnings resonate today