TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Radical Vision]

Solid as hell is the thing, as the times goes on only they will survive, also i prefer working Intel and GIGAwood boards with working CPUs on them over dead heavily OCed ABIT and EPoX ones... ASUS is very interesting to me, i hate them but i can clearly see the build quality on their pre 2000 boards is very very high, and also always using Japan Rubycon capacitors, yet they tend to die just like that lmao, so no asus for me... Usually when replacing the few crappy nichicons or brown KZG caps these GIGAbytes run well... I had like one of these that did came DOA, and one 7N400 Pro that stopped posting after recap, but thats about it... I saw more dead MSI boards, many more dead asus ones...


Oke lets go then... It is obvious how many GIGAwood boards are in here, asus, MSI and others... Hell i did not even know i had another DED AF MSI Pro Ver:5 (MS-6337), till i saw the scrap pictures... Also amny unpictured red MSI AM2 garbage boards that are always dead, when i see these i am sure they wont post, some of them dont even power on lul...




Look here what a miracle working GIGAwood boards....






Also for a change out of 4 ABIT NF7 V2, 2 were DOA when i got them, but i dont blame the boards as much (like with asus), as i bet they did OC on them like insane, but still they should have survived..

At least we both agree that asus is overrated AF, and dead most of the time....

 

[MaxiPro800]

Your turn. All pictured are working, for some I am waiting on some new CPUs. One even has a onboard Voodoo 3 2000 16MB.

Zero Gigabyte in sight, they get destroyed as soon as one fails test, only working one left is a 939 board worth nothing else than its CPU a 64 x2 4600 which will likely get destroyed as well once I find a DFI Lanparty NF4-SLI DR

Forgot I have a GA-7VR that survived the Gigabyte massacre, probably because it's the only to have an properly coded AMI BIOS

ASUS get sold as quickly as possible so I don't have to be responsible for their deaths

 

[Radical Vision]

This started as me saying asus is crap and overrated, and that next after them MSI did die, and GIGAbyte less, not competition for most ded MSI boards and alive GIGAbyte ones... I still had more dead MSIs then GIGAbytes >>>




One of the many red AM2 dead MSI, it may be new, but had like 6 like this all dead different years, different ppl....





I also have working MSI boards, and more working GIGAbyte ones... Much working GIGAbyte boards in here, compared to ur 939 one only.. I would also have high end 939 GIGAbyte, but the seller was scumbag, and did not care enough to send pictures and stuff, so could not get it... That 939 Diamond MSI prob is working cuz is brand new, the blue s370 GIGAbyte was used one...

 

[MaxiPro800]

More ABIT and MSI here, Gigabyte get destroyed until 775. Also no RAID on that BX2000 it's lame, should have got a 2000+

Already have a lineup for sale, and no Gigabyte in sight because they're crap

- Soltek SL-65LIV-T
- DFI P2BLX
- Biostar M7VKB
- ASUS P5P800 (the few of ASUS that still runs)
- Soltek SL-65KIV2
- Shuttle AK12A
- Acer S61

 

[Radical Vision]

I also have more MSI/ ABIT mobos then GIGAbyte myself... on 462 i have the GA-7N400 Pro is only 1, had the Pro 2, but sold it, dont have the GA-7NNXP... Compared to that i have 5 ABIT 462, x4 NF7 and one KT7A so 5:1, and x2 MSI NF2 Delta board one red and one Neo Platinum... Also BX2000 is one, on other hand i have ABIT BE6, BE6-II, had more BE6 and BE6-II but sold them, no point in having 20 of the same... GIGAbyte mobos are rare overall, ABIT not as much for some reason, maybe they did buy more ABIT back then, or maybe ABIT is more solid, even with their garbage tayeh caps, that the dead ss7 MSI has as well....

But when i think about it, i remember looking at the red MSI K7 Delta, and it did look fine in quality, same for the Platinum.. Tho the K7 Platinum had at least 4 garbage KZG caps that did go to the opera to scream... So yes when i look at the pic too, that red NF2 Delta has great build quality, and only mix Panasonic and Rubycon caps very nice.... It puts to shame the Platinum, with it few KGZ garbage caps that have been replaced... Tho why TF these boards lack the mounting holes for the big coolers is beyond me, it was the same crap with GIGAbyte, both brands did not have holes rip big tower i guess..

 

[MaxiPro800]

I have these ABIT with a BX133-RAID on the way:

-BE6-II
-BP6
-VP6
-BX6R2
-IS7-E v1.2
-KR7A
-KG7-RAID
-NF7-S v2 w/ custom BIOS
-BH6
-TX5
(in transit) BX133-RAID

MSI:
-6163 v1
-6163 Pro v2
-6168 v2 with onboard Voodoo 3 2000 16MB, is the most sought after MSI board after the BX Master
-K7 Pro 6195
-694D Pro-AR
-815EM Pro v5.1
-K7N2 Delta-ILSR, competes with NF7-S v2, the older v1 of Delta were much better than Delta2
-6340 K7TM PRO Ver 1.0
-K8T Neo-FIS2R

Lamebyte:
-7VR
-K8NF-9

AS(S)US:
- i don't even care, it works it's sold, if not into scrap it goes

10:9:2 ratio, soon to be 11, that's great, meanwhile Gigabytes fry their shit without me doing anything and using proper PSUs like Chieftec GPS-450 and even Antec EA-500, at least their caps gonna be handy in saving more ABIT and MSI, except the two boards (K8NF9 and that 7VR) that still POST

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

On the ones with the older boards not posting, may I ask what psu you are using? Why I ask is with newer psus the older stuff may not boot. Newer psus do not have a strong enough 5v rail to power older rigs. Talking Socket A and so on. I have experienced this myself. Used a newer 750 watt Corsair unit and a 650 watt Antec unit testing some socket A motherboards and they would not post not matter what. Swapped out the psu with a old from the late 90's Enermax 431 watt unit and they fired right up. The 5v rail on that old unit is 44amps compared to the 20 amps on the corsair unit.

 

[MaxiPro800]

The following units are what I use

-Seasonic 350W w/ -5v rail, made circa 2002
-Antec EA-500
-ISO 500PP
-Maxpower PL-400 (recapped)
-MS Industries KY-400ATX (recapped)
-Raidmax RX-700AC (Andyson OEM)

All have powerful enough 5v rails - I have personally loaded the ISO and Seasonic close to the max with the 694D Pro AR, by using 2x Seagate ST336607LW SCSI drives, as well as a DVDRW and a 10k RPM WD Raptor.

 

[Radical Vision]

On the ones with the older boards not posting, may I ask what psu you are using? Why I ask is with newer psus the older stuff may not boot. Newer psus do not have a strong enough 5v rail to power older rigs. Talking Socket A and so on. I have experienced this myself. Used a newer 750 watt Corsair unit and a 650 watt Antec unit testing some socket A motherboards and they would not post not matter what. Swapped out the psu with a old from the late 90's Enermax 431 watt unit and they fired right up. The 5v rail on that old unit is 44amps compared to the 20 amps on the corsair unit.

I use myself EnermaX, have also TT PurePower 480W with 40A on the +5v, that i use for testing purposes... The EnermaX with its weak only 28A is powering ABIT NF7 with Mobile Barton OCed up to 2.6GHz + Radeon HD3850 AGP, never had any problems with the system rock solid, ABIT mobos are so good after they got colored orange and covered with Rubycon capacitors... Look at the FSP PSU, is good and heavy PSU, it also delivers up to 390W not 300W as labeled.. BUT there is problem with Fortron overall, they use some real garbage caps, so this PSU started acting weird and restart my old system at the time, so FSP are no good, unless you recap them... On my dual P3 system i use the unit from the IBM Intellistation Pro case, ACbel something it works great... Same with the P2 system and the Compaq case i use the OEM Compaq PSU, it was made by Delta, and is very reliable... Delta is another great brand, you can get their PSUs from old Compaq systems, or some HP ones, and if the PSU works with most motherboards you are lucky, as these Delta units are build very very good, most of them only with Japan capacitors...

Using newer PSU for old systems below 775/ AM2 is NOT good idea, you will get no post on many motherboards saw it happen with customers and colleagues, never did understand why someone will use god damn 700/ 800 hell even 1000W modern PSU with old system, and expect unicorns and roses... Just get yourself some quality old PSU and be fine, EnermaX for example have the biggest filtration caps made in Japan, but the middle and small ones are usually garbage, BUT the damn EnermaX units are build so well they work even with 1, 2 bulged caps and have no problems.. Old ANtec units are also good, Fortron only after full recap, ThermalTake seems fine mine did power on hundreds of old boards and GPUs too, cant complain. And Delta PSUs found in Compaqs and some newer HPs are also great...





Speaking about PSUs, one day i found some AD with old parts for cheap, so i did order them ofc... Welp when the PSU came in i was amazed of the quality, very very high on everything from the fan to the japan caps up to the case that seems steel one and durable af too.... And AT PSUs usually are garbage it is so rare to see well build unit... That AOpen PSU is also high quality, only the case is cheaper, but the insides have japan caps, and the cables feel premium, some ppl may trash talk AOpen but they are solid brand, and my DX34R-U is like the Terminator, it wont die, no matter how much crap it did saw, insane durable board...

 

[MaxiPro800]

Meanwhile MSI still running great, and ABIT too

 

[Radical Vision]

Meanwhile AOpen too after being exposed to idiot owners, that did insert SDram the wrong way, blowing mem mosfet + pin from the mem slot. Scratching the PCB much and having as big as chipset chip naked PCB. Being covered in cigarette goo/ tar, and also surviving whole recap too...... Most boards would be dead, asus would be dead even from the cigarette tar goo....

Also AOpen s7 x3.....

 

[MaxiPro800]

Meanwhile MSI still runs fine after previous idiot owner almost ripped a whole SMD array from Voodoo3 chip and got rebuilt without any reference for SMD resistor values, bonus it's the rare 16MB version not the 8MB

 

[Apocalypsee]

This thread turned into MaxiPro and Radical Vision nostalgic hardware stash lol. I wanted to buy Quadro FX 5500 but the seller just reply to me saying the card unable to boot now

 

[Radical Vision]

Lmao some ppl are such apes... The idiot prob wanted to rip off the 3Dfx chip and sell it alone, or god knows what he wanted to do.... Ppl like that should be criminal charged, and then prosecuted, when they destroy on purpose precious HW... I remember ppl posting videos of scrappers having bunch of Pentium Pros, and then hammering them, in order to acid them and extract the gold..... I dont like parts that have even few scratches, not to mention gauges and ripped off parts. But good others like to repair broken stuff, and bring them back to life... I just stash mine, until i find some pro, that can magically fix stuff, and not leaving his hands on the precious parts....
If was me getting that busted MSI + 3Dfx chip, i would just store it, until someone can fix it, and just look for pristine condition one, and sell the broken one once fixed... I collect only pristine condition stuff, or at least working ones, even if they look bad... Life is too short, storage space not enough, money and time is limited too, in order to deal with repairs and put in the collection parts that look straight bad, or not working properly...

That Albatron was saved by its Dual BIOS, the first is corrupted or the chip is straight dead... Not that i care much, but i like to have many high end s462 boards, not fan of Albatron but still is high end 462 mobo...





These 2 ABIT NF7 came in DOA.... Really disappointed when the second one was dead too... Would prefer the mobile Barton to be dead instead... Also wonder how tf did this crap happen, as the PSU used was EnermaX... The second one also came dead, CPU working.... Wonder how these primates managed to kill the god damn NF7, that are build like tanks, or maybe both boards were not realiable from the factory in the first place.. My original one from 2014 still works fine...

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Look at this beut, the keyboard is interesting.
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[MaxiPro800]

Lmao some ppl are such apes... The idiot prob wanted to rip off the 3Dfx chip and sell it alone, or god knows what he wanted to do.... Ppl like that should be criminal charged, and then prosecuted, when they destroy on purpose precious HW... I remember ppl posting videos of scrappers having bunch of Pentium Pros, and then hammering them, in order to acid them and extract the gold..... I dont like parts that have even few scratches, not to mention gauges and ripped off parts. But good others like to repair broken stuff, and bring them back to life... I just stash mine, until i find some pro, that can magically fix stuff, and not leaving his hands on the precious parts....
If was me getting that busted MSI + 3Dfx chip, i would just store it, until someone can fix it, and just look for pristine condition one, and sell the broken one once fixed... I collect only pristine condition stuff, or at least working ones, even if they look bad... Life is too short, storage space not enough, money and time is limited too, in order to deal with repairs and put in the collection parts that look straight bad, or not working properly...

That Albatron was saved by its Dual BIOS, the first is corrupted or the chip is straight dead... Not that i care much, but i like to have many high end s462 boards, not fan of Albatron but still is high end 462 mobo...

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These 2 ABIT NF7 came in DOA.... Really disappointed when the second one was dead too... Would prefer the mobile Barton to be dead instead... Also wonder how tf did this crap happen, as the PSU used was EnermaX... The second one also came dead, CPU working.... Wonder how these primates managed to kill the god damn NF7, that are build like tanks, or maybe both boards were not realiable from the factory in the first place.. My original one from 2014 still works fine...

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I got the MSI fixed myself since it's a FACTORY INSTALLED 16MB variant while all the others are 8MB (both eBay and any classified you'll find). In the meantime he posted another one

 

[Radical Vision]

Daamn do that mobo look sad AFF, and disgusting too, i guess he did store in the sewer where he lives prob... I try to stay away from parts that look like this... Luckily for me, 95% of all things i find are very well preserved... Also is way better not only to find parts in pristine condition, also posting/ working ofc, and on top of that with original boxes, manuals, disks ect, not shit, roaches and some other biohazards... You are doing well for fixing stuff, that most ppl will be disgusted to even touch... Had few times parts with roaches and biohazard on them, (one of the parts was MSI red AM2 mobo dead af) prefer never to see more of these nasty parts...

 

[MaxiPro800]

That one I didn't buy since he asks for steep as fk prices (almost close to 200 euros) for 3dfx stuff however I did receive other good cards and mainboards from him, such as Soyo 5EMA and 5EHM with 1MB cache, FIC PA-2013 wirh 1MB cache (which I can up to 2MB as I have a spare 2013 2MB board that someone else broke), a bunch of Banshees and even a pristine V3 3000 that ran on my K7 Pro 6195.


MSI AM2 usually gets scrapped here too, I don't save any newer AMD based MSI unless they're good enough like the K9N SLi and the black PCB AMD chipset ones, as well as the higher end 775 stuff from them. Older stuff like P4, 939, 754 is usually sturdy and deserve sto be saved as well.

 

[Radical Vision]

Pff these filthy scrappers.... 180 euro for what, part that is nearly falling apart, has goo and shit on it, many broken caps, plastic parts.... Some of these ppl are detached from reality... Sure ppl go crazy on ebay, but hell at least half of them sell working parts and stuff, even if the price is too much, at least is working... But to take part like that MSI-3Dfx combo mobo from the sewers covered in shit, and looking to get more then 20$ it is felony... Damn scrappers, years ago was lucky enough to find scrapper, and get multiple 3Dfx cards for pocket change, also all of them except one Voodoo III 2K with artifacts, were working fine... Sadly it was one time deal only, as the fker told me, there was someone else that buys the 3Dfx cards from him for higher price, i told him i will pay the same price, even a bit more, so i can get the cards, he refused... But before that to happen, the scrapper primate did send me pictures of parts, and there was one Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme music, with the gold jacks/ plate.. The primate was like "this card cost 60$ since it has so much gold on it, i was like yeah sure.. Then he told me he destroyed like bunch of Creative AWE64 Gold cards, cuz there was label Gold on the card itself... Needless to say that got me pissed off, but what to do, these morons will just destroy stuff, for the kilograms of gold .....

Seems times change, same fate happened to ABIT, they were great after the NF7 V2 with the rubycons, the previous ones too after recap, as the tayeh caps are pure trash... Later on they did become universal abit, and was just generic brand, tho they did continue to use only rubycon caps...

 

[MaxiPro800]

He asks those prices for a lot of stuff, I was lucky enough to get him to send me tested-working cards for half the prices he asks on the classifieds. So far I got like 3x Banshee, a Gainward V2 1000 and V3 3000. One of the Banshees he sent me another V3 PCI after I told him the Banshee was artefacting, turned out the RAM chips needed resoldering, ran fine after that.

As for mainboards, the 16MB variant that I fixed the SMD work on was much cleaner than the 2nd one he posted up (which I didn't even bother as it was 8MB only and would have taken far too long to fix).

He's had like 3x AWE64 Gold but I turned those down since they're just fancier AWE64 and were also missing their brackets, meanwhile AWE32 for half his prices is the real deal here, he tried to get me to buy a CT3990 but I again turned it down since I have the MASTER CT3900 already.

He's also wanted something like $63 for a Socket 8 board (ASUS) that looked like it sat in a dump, fk no GET OUT.

All the 3dfx that came from him, I also recently got a Matrox Parhelia 512 off him that fortunately works. Pictured are Gainward V2 12MB, STB V3 3000, Creative Banshee CT6750, Innovision Banshee (the one I had to resolder ALL RAM chips on), ELSA Vicotry II-A16. The CT3900 was from a rival of his.

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

Found a HP Compaq DC5850 today for €10
KV556ET#ABH
Athlon x2 5200B CPU
2GB RAM

It's a dual Core CPU, but want to change it to a Quad Core?
Which Quad Core CPU or Series are available for this system?

 

[Ta1k0n]

Long Long ago... in a galaxy far far away I loved this cpu. Ran cool to 3.2 unlocked multiplier .... Zalman 9500 solid copper.
But... finally had to upgrade...Phenom II X4 940BE... then Intel Core2 E8600 and EVGA 750i FTW came out.
Long Long ago

 

[jak_2456]

Which Quad Core CPU or Series are available for this system?

You'll probably find this page useful:

HP Compaq DC5850

AMD Sempron X2 2200 Processor (2.0-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 2.0) AMD Sempron LE-1300 Processor (2.3-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 1.0) AMD Sempron LE-1250 Processor (2.2-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 1.0) AMD Athlon LE-1640B Processor (2.7-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 2.0) AMD Athlon X2 7750 Processor...

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If I were you, I'd either throw in a GPU and turn it into a gaming rig or leave it as-is and install Linux.

He asks those prices for a lot of stuff, I was lucky enough to get him to send me tested-working cards for half the prices he asks on the classifieds. So far I got like 3x Banshee, a Gainward V2 1000 and V3 3000. One of the Banshees he sent me another V3 PCI after I told him the Banshee was artefacting, turned out the RAM chips needed resoldering, ran fine after that.

As for mainboards, the 16MB variant that I fixed the SMD work on was much cleaner than the 2nd one he posted up (which I didn't even bother as it was 8MB only and would have taken far too long to fix).

He's had like 3x AWE64 Gold but I turned those down since they're just fancier AWE64 and were also missing their brackets, meanwhile AWE32 for half his prices is the real deal here, he tried to get me to buy a CT3990 but I again turned it down since I have the MASTER CT3900 already.

He's also wanted something like $63 for a Socket 8 board (ASUS) that looked like it sat in a dump, fk no GET OUT.View attachment 381599

All the 3dfx that came from him, I also recently got a Matrox Parhelia 512 off him that fortunately works. Pictured are Gainward V2 12MB, STB V3 3000, Creative Banshee CT6750, Innovision Banshee (the one I had to resolder ALL RAM chips on), ELSA Vicotry II-A16. The CT3900 was from a rival of his.

What car is in the top-right corner right next to your keyboard?

 

[MaxiPro800]

What car is in the top-right corner right next to your keyboard?

1970s VW Karmann-Ghia.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Found a HP Compaq DC5850 today for €10
KV556ET#ABH
Athlon x2 5200B CPU
2GB RAM

It's a dual Core CPU, but want to change it to a Quad Core?
Which Quad Core CPU or Series are available for this system?

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You'll have to check the specs for that system to see if it'd take an X4 CPU model, which it might. If it can, I'd go for it!

You'll probably find this page useful:

HP Compaq DC5850

AMD Sempron X2 2200 Processor (2.0-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 2.0) AMD Sempron LE-1300 Processor (2.3-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 1.0) AMD Sempron LE-1250 Processor (2.2-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 1.0) AMD Athlon LE-1640B Processor (2.7-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 2.0) AMD Athlon X2 7750 Processor...

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If I were you, I'd either throw in a GPU and turn it into a gaming rig or leave it as-is and install Linux.

Throw in a Radeon HD7850 or GTX670 and that would make for an excellent XP retro gaming rig. I would also install a matching set of 1GB DIMMs to an even 4GB.