System Name | Custom |
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Processor | i9 9900k |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z390 arous master |
Cooling | corsair h150i |
Memory | 4x8 3200mhz corsair |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 EX Gamer White OC |
Storage | 500gb Samsung 970 Evo PLus |
Display(s) | MSi MAG341CQ |
Case | Lian Li Pc-011 Dynamic |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro Wireless |
Power Supply | 850w Seasonic Focus Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G403 |
Keyboard | Logitech G110 |
System Name | The de-ploughminator Mk-III |
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Processor | 9800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X870E Aorus Master |
Cooling | DeepCool AK620 |
Memory | 2x32GB G.SKill 6400MT Cas32 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX4090 TUF |
Storage | 4TB Samsung 990 Pro |
Display(s) | 48" LG OLED C4 |
Case | Corsair 5000D Air |
Audio Device(s) | KEF LSX II LT speakers + KEF KC62 Subwoofer |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850 |
Mouse | Razor Death Adder v3 |
Keyboard | Razor Huntsman V3 Pro TKL |
Software | win11 |
2 years ago this would be me lol I feel you man....3200+ is rough though I'd probably skip the 90 class at those prices at any time lol 1700 usd last gen was painful although now that I've seen 50 series less so.
System Name | His & Hers |
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Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
I figured 1600usd at launch for the 4090 was a steal LOL. I don't feel so strongly about 5090 however it would still be the fastest GPU for the forseeable future anyways, I will take the best I can get .
I predict that 5090 prices will fall steeply when RTX6000 come and wipe the floor with it, Nvidia might push up RTX6000 schedule if they see a threat with UDNA. So I guess most people should skip the RTX5000 entirely (unless they have 4K 240hz screen that need MFG LOL).
Oh and 4090 just became even more potent with Transformer model too, solid visuals and performance with 4K DLSS.P + FG
System Name | Jaehaerys |
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Processor | 9800X3D |
Motherboard | X870E Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer III |
Memory | meh VENGEANCE until cl26 sticks drop |
Video Card(s) | Anus ROG RTX 2080ti |
Storage | FireCuda 540, Samsung 990 Pro, Orico 7400 |
Display(s) | 65" 4K |
Case | Fractal Pop XL |
Audio Device(s) | on board realtek |
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
Mouse | Logitech G700 |
Keyboard | Redragon VATA K580 |
Software | Win11 |
Benchmark Scores | Steel Nomad DX12: http://www.3dmark.com/sn/3213137 Steel Nomad V: http://www.3dmark.com/sn/3459409 |
System Name | The de-ploughminator Mk-III |
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Processor | 9800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X870E Aorus Master |
Cooling | DeepCool AK620 |
Memory | 2x32GB G.SKill 6400MT Cas32 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX4090 TUF |
Storage | 4TB Samsung 990 Pro |
Display(s) | 48" LG OLED C4 |
Case | Corsair 5000D Air |
Audio Device(s) | KEF LSX II LT speakers + KEF KC62 Subwoofer |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850 |
Mouse | Razor Death Adder v3 |
Keyboard | Razor Huntsman V3 Pro TKL |
Software | win11 |
until Nvidia fixes this Frame generation is pretty much dead to me.....
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I'm not going to enable anything that increases input latency while lowering the real framerate on top of all the other downsides that are still noticeable to me up to about 120 natively rendered frames..... I like the tech but it isn't worth spending crazy money for it....
I hear you though for 4k 240hz there really is no other option input latency be damned. You basically need a 5090 even to use it at 4k with decent settings in my book.
System Name | His & Hers |
---|---|
Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
Outside of some visual anomalies, there is nothing else to be fixed with FG nor MFG
I don't have a problem with HUB nitpicking MFG, it's their job, but they could have used a bit more perspectives. For example, you can use MFG x3 mode on a 240hz screen to get 80FPS base, that way input latency is low enough and you get insane motion clarity @ 240hz (or x4 mode for 360hz monitors)
I don't know about you but I have played plenty of competitive games that I could distinguish the input latency difference way beyond 200FPS, but 100FPS with FG is good enough for single player to me, and I do notice the extra motion clarity from 80FPS Native rendered to 120FPS "fake frames" more than the increase in input latency.
System Name | Don't do thermal paste, kids |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1060 3GB (temporarily) |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
yea, this is basically how I feel about frame gen in general. if the 240FPS I'm getting from my game doesn't actually feel like 240FPS, then its not really 240FPS to me. I think there's a practical purpose to frame gen but for all my needs I could care less about it. Plus, from my experiences with latency in general, sometimes having super bad latency in one game can completely throw you off for awhile in other games where your latency isnt nearly as bad even with muscle memory. Just probably me though.I'm not going to enable anything that increases input latency while lowering the real framerate on top of all the other downsides that are still noticeable to me up to about 120 natively rendered frames..... I like the tech but it isn't worth spending crazy money for it....
Yea I feel ya, I'm on a 2080S rn and I'm not going for a huge jump myself. Trying to snag a RX 7700XT, RX 6800, RTX 3070Ti or RTX 3080, but no luck so far. So I guess that answers my question; No, Not buying a 5090, and I might like 6 years from now lol.I'm still on a 2080ti. Just last week I missed out on a crazy deal for a 3090, all other used 3090 offers seemed meh since that one.
So I moved up to get a used 4090 but awful deals, some wanted $1800 - $2000, others wanted even more for them. So I figured, if I spend that much on a 2yr old used GPU, might as well just get a new GPU with a warranty, even if 5090 is not much faster than a 4090.
Definitely not going to pay scalpers, neither the official ones (cough Astral cough) nor the scummy ebay ones, even if I have to stay on Turing another 6 years.
System Name | His & Hers |
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Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
yea, this is basically how I feel about frame gen in general. if the 240FPS I'm getting from my game doesn't actually feel like 240FPS, then its not really 240FPS to me. I think there's a practical purpose to frame gen but for all my needs I could care less about it. Plus, from my experiences with latency in general, sometimes having super bad latency in one game can completely throw you off for awhile in other games where your latency isnt nearly as bad even with muscle memory. Just probably me though.
Processor | Ryzen 7 9700x |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650E PG Riptide WiFi |
Cooling | Underfloor CPU cooling |
Memory | 2x32GB 6200MT/s |
Video Card(s) | RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB, Seagate Exos 12TB |
Display(s) | MSI Optix MAG301RF 2560x1080@200Hz |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro |
Power Supply | NZXT C850 850W Gold |
Mouse | Bloody W95 Max Naraka |
System Name | His & Hers |
---|---|
Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
The RTX 5090 is the best 4k gaming card out right now and yes its priced like heaven because Nvidia wants to make huge profits.
The RTX 5090 is a monster that even 9800x3D can't feed at 4k, the problem with the low FPS isn't the card and the terrible marketing with those fake framerates, it's the games that aren't optimized or have too much RT and that makes them unplayable.
So would I buy it - if I want the top FPS on the market and have the money - yes. Do I need air conditioning to use it - yes absolutely
In reality - there are few games that need such a card and half of them are crap, others can be played with a slower card at lower resolution with the same fun. After all, most of the newest games have to wait to fix all the bugs between 3 and 6 months , and in that time is the price of the 5090 will drop by a decent percentage, especially if there is no demand
Processor | Ryzen AI |
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Motherboard | MSI |
Cooling | Cool |
Memory | Fast |
Video Card(s) | Matrox Ultra high quality | Radeon |
Storage | Chinese |
Display(s) | 4K |
Case | Transparent left side window |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Chinese |
Mouse | Chinese |
Keyboard | Chinese |
VR HMD | No |
Software | Android | Yandex |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
System Name | Don't do thermal paste, kids |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1060 3GB (temporarily) |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
Expecting AMD to deliver 5090 performance is kind of foolish. AMD excels imo when they weren't trying to be the top dog.. many of their mid range cards are held in great standing cause of that. Still seeing many people rocking 6700xt and 6750xt's to this day, and the 7700XT is pretty popular too. Even earlier than that, look at Polaris / RX 400 series. I'm just hoping the RX 90xx series is actually gonna be able to deliver the mid range performance at great prices that I've expected AMD to give.Nope, of course, the card is not worthy it at this moment.
Waiting for AMD to deliver something comparable at 1/4 the price, is the best tactics . .
That's all we can really hope for man.Hopefully it only gets better over time.
Processor | Ryzen AI |
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Motherboard | MSI |
Cooling | Cool |
Memory | Fast |
Video Card(s) | Matrox Ultra high quality | Radeon |
Storage | Chinese |
Display(s) | 4K |
Case | Transparent left side window |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Chinese |
Mouse | Chinese |
Keyboard | Chinese |
VR HMD | No |
Software | Android | Yandex |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
Expecting AMD to deliver 5090 performance is kind of foolish.
System Name | Don't do thermal paste, kids |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1060 3GB (temporarily) |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
It's foolish to think that the backported RTX 5090 is the end of the road and there will never be anything faster than it.
The only way this to happen is if AMD goes bankrupt.
Processor | Ryzen AI |
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Motherboard | MSI |
Cooling | Cool |
Memory | Fast |
Video Card(s) | Matrox Ultra high quality | Radeon |
Storage | Chinese |
Display(s) | 4K |
Case | Transparent left side window |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Chinese |
Mouse | Chinese |
Keyboard | Chinese |
VR HMD | No |
Software | Android | Yandex |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
I dont think I ever said nor implied that AMD would never beat it. Its just not something I expect AMD to do, nor something I think AMD should do, and its pretty clear thats not what they're trying to do with there next series of GPU's either. Especially when theres more feasible and tangible ways for them to succeed.
Most of what I said was referring to at the moment rather than beyond that.
Processor | Ryzen 7 9700x |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650E PG Riptide WiFi |
Cooling | Underfloor CPU cooling |
Memory | 2x32GB 6200MT/s |
Video Card(s) | RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB, Seagate Exos 12TB |
Display(s) | MSI Optix MAG301RF 2560x1080@200Hz |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro |
Power Supply | NZXT C850 850W Gold |
Mouse | Bloody W95 Max Naraka |
Two years later they probably will, you're right, we just have to waitNope, of course, the card is not worthy it at this moment.
Waiting for AMD to deliver something comparable at 1/4 the price, is the best tactics . .
System Name | Don't do thermal paste, kids |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1060 3GB (temporarily) |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
I'm not even gonna try to make sense of what your trying to get at here? I guess there is some sort of language barrier or something?I never implied waiting for later today.
"Savvy customers buy AMD", which in complete fairness, I can certainly agree with for the last 2 generations of GPU's before this one. I'm sure we'll see the same sort of stuff this generation too in terms of value, hopefully.Two years later they probably will, you're right, we just have to wait
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
Two years later they probably will, you're right, we just have to wait
System Name | His & Hers |
---|---|
Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
Two years later they probably will, you're right, we just have to wait
System Name | Don't do thermal paste, kids |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1060 3GB (temporarily) |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
If NVIDIA can pull out the huge performance gains per generation that they used to be able to do, then oh yeah. Not really sure though, as those days are kinda dead now in terms of raw raster tbh.in a couple years the 8060 will crush that sad waste of sand 5090 for a fraction of the price, so i will just wait. Those are the big brain moves
System Name | His & Hers |
---|---|
Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
I'm not even gonna try to make sense of what your trying to get at here? I guess there is some sort of language barrier or something?
If NVIDIA can pull out the huge performance gains per generation that they used to be able to do, then oh yeah. Not really sure though, as those days are kinda dead now in terms of raw raster tbh.
System Name | Don't do thermal paste, kids |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1060 3GB (temporarily) |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
Perhaps my young age is failing me right now and I need to return back to the crib with a binky and needing coddled.Don't feel bad I have no idea what he's trying to say obviously it's beyond us mere mortals comprehension.
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
If NVIDIA can pull out the huge performance gains per generation that they used to be able to do, then oh yeah. Not really sure though, as those days are kinda dead now in terms of raw raster tbh.
System Name | Don't do thermal paste, kids |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X |
Motherboard | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | Silicon Power 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | GTX 1060 3GB (temporarily) |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G27Q (1440p / 170hz DP) |
Case | SAMA SV01 |
Power Supply | Firehazard in the making |
Mouse | Corsair Nightsword |
Keyboard | Steelseries Apex Pro |
I mean in complete fairness, most of the huge jumps that I'm referring too was due to die sizes for GPU's shrinking primarily (as far as im aware, I honestly havent done a super due diligence there yet tbf), but still the 40 series left me feeling mixed, which the 40 supers did redeem. I'm curious to see where the 5070 lands, as thats where that sort of stuff matters imo (the midrange)that's not asking much, in 3 generations.
The beast 1080ti in 3 generations was outclassed by insanely cheap cards