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4090 hotspot temperature > 110C

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wipe the trash paste off and buy a PTM7950 or thermal grizzly phase change pad.
 

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It's just unacceptable that with a 2000EUR/USD card, the manufacturer cheaps out with the TIM. I hope Asus will learn their lesson in the future.
 
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If you cant get it fixed under warranty it gives you a perfect excuse to waterblock it :)
 
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The Hotspot of my 4090 SUPRIM LIQUID X never get higher than 85°C... even Overclocked with GDDR6X at 25Gbps (+2000) !!!
 

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Any follow up from the OP? I am in the same boat with my ASUS TUF 4090 OC. Hotspot temps 107c under load. Currently debating ASUS RMA vs PTM 7950 myself. I was wondering how it worked out.
 
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Undervolt it first, and see how much temps drop. Or RMA it, but shoot Asus an email first, as they might say that "it's in normal parameters" BS.
 

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Undervolt it first, and see how much temps drop. Or RMA it, but shoot Asus an email first, as they might say that "it's in normal parameters" BS.
I did try undervolting (0.925v) and also tried 80% power level with a normal voltage curve. Both yielded hotpot temp of about 90c with average at 60c. Under load the hotspot is about 30c over "gpu temp". I want to RMA, but I am paranoid that I will get some refurbished card with other problems, some big bill, or the same problems. You think I should reach to ASUS first?
 
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Any follow up from the OP? I am in the same boat with my ASUS TUF 4090 OC. Hotspot temps 107c under load. Currently debating ASUS RMA vs PTM 7950 myself. I was wondering how it worked out.
If you can return (not RMA) it, and use the cash to get a 4090 from another manufacturer that doesn't screw its customers, I'd do that.

Otherwise I'd suggest PTM7950, if you RMA the card not only are you sitting without a GPU, but there's the risk that they'll send you back either a new GPU with the exact same problem (so you have to PTM7950 it anyway), or someone else's old GPU that was RMA'd and "fixed" and then breaks on you.

Either way, take it as a lesson to never buy ass-us again.
 

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If you can return (not RMA) it, and use the cash to get a 4090 from another manufacturer that doesn't screw its customers, I'd do that.

Otherwise I'd suggest PTM7950, if you RMA the card not only are you sitting without a GPU, but there's the risk that they'll send you back either a new GPU with the exact same problem (so you have to PTM7950 it anyway), or someone else's old GPU that was RMA'd and "fixed" and then breaks on you.

Either way, take it as a lesson to never buy ass-us again.
I got it from Microcenter in Dec 2022. Tried for weeks to get an FE. Unfortunately, the ASUS was all I could get my hands on at the time. And my Vega 64 was dead. I certainly can't return it at this point. Getting the cooler off for PTM 7950 seems straightforward.
 
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You think I should reach to ASUS first?
Either that or you use it with an undervolt and power limit, until it gets out of warranty, i assume sometime this year, if you bought it in 2022. And after the warranty expires, then you repaste it with PTM and get new pads for the memory if necessary.
 
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Any follow up from the OP? I am in the same boat with my ASUS TUF 4090 OC. Hotspot temps 107c under load. Currently debating ASUS RMA vs PTM 7950 myself. I was wondering how it worked out.

Repaste the gpu.

So much trouble because someone came up with the idea of saving a few cents when making the card.
This is not an isolated case, but a common practice for some manufacturers to save money where they can.
Here is a german video in which this cheap thermal paste-soup is tested:


It's about a Manli GeForce RTX 4080.
Manli RTX 4090 has the same problem.

35% of the thermal paste is simply gone!

The person responsible should be held liable with his private assets!
That just sucks!

This problem has been known for years by the board partners and also by nVIDIA itself.
nVIDIA has a Greenlight program that has to inspect and approve every single screw at board partners such as Manli, otherwise the card cannot be sold.
What is not checked, however, is the thermal paste, among other things.
Something so essential for the operation of the card is not checked!

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Was the exact same situation on my gigabyte 4090 gaming oc. Repasted it with quality paste, and it was fine. But you shouldn't have to !
 
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Definitely not normal. I have the same card and it has never gotten anywhere close to that. I do game at 4k60 but I have overclocked and removed limits for benchmarks and whatnot and have seen no temperature so high.

Also him saying 4090 is hotter than previous cards... idk how true that is...... Anyway, yeah, I don't exactly have a lot of faith in Asus' rma so thats one of the reasons I've been thinking of buying a b580 as a fallback. The limited edition are on sale at newegg at msrp and I don't know for how long that will last ('m in canada - doesn't seem to be the case in the US). I just don't want to be caught with my pants down if something were to happen and gpus seem to be in short supply pretty much everywhere right now. Of course if I don't buy it, I'll end up needing it. And if I do, I wont.

Currently my only backup for video is... a 12100 igpu, lol. Don't think I'll be playing much games on that....
 
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