NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Founders Edition

[oxrufiioxo]

Holy 15 pages of comments Batman!! This is what happens when you're late to the party..

My 2 cents, this should not have been the 5080. It should have been a 5070ti. This is not a $1000 card. $850 is what this card should be priced at.

@ Nvidia, @ Jensen Huang,
Drop the ball did ya? Or did you not actual witness the perf numbers first hand? Before making statements like the ones you made, you should make sure they are truthful and accurate. Otherwise you end up looking like a liar that no one can take seriously.

The funny thing is if you look back at the 4080 12GB and 4080 16GB the 4080 12GB had a similar 15% uplift over the 3080 the only difference this gen is we are not getting the better 5080 lol.

Now they don't have to cancel the meh 5080 we just won't get the good one...


Nvidia's like Boom Profit!!!!

 

[Visible Noise]

Complete bull crap about rasterization limit;

Go watch Mark Cerney’s presentation.

Graphics aren’t measured just by FPS.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

This might be a controversial take, but I think the 5080 is an insanely good card. Just overpriced on a price to perfomance scale.

16GB VRAM @ 1k is just cancer. Wish they used 3GB dies. Could justify paying 1k for a 24GB version.

3GB GDDR7 IC's dont exist yet. 2GB only right now. 3GB will probably be available by the end of the year

 

[cmguigamf]

For AMD to release a highend card this gen it would need to beat a 4090 not just be a few percent faster than a 5080 which is still slower than a 4090.

Eh, I'd say 4090/5090 are flagships, 4080/S/5080 are high end.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

@W1zzard

Sorry if this has been asked, but are all the PCBs like this?

edit just looked at galax review - pcb looks more run of the mill.

So about 50-50 or?

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Founders card is unique

Board partners like Galax, Msi, Asus, etc will have custom PCBs that will be more traditional.

 

[Chrispy_]

@W1zzard

Sorry if this has been asked, but are all the PCBs like this?

edit just looked at galax review - pcb looks more run of the mill.

So about 50-50 or?

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This is the FE design only. Nvidia have being doing weird PCBs on FE cards for a while now.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Alright AMD. 4080 Performance (and equivalent-ish RT) for $700 or less and the market is yours.

I wonder if AMD's engineers are digging out the parts of whatever big chungus top end RDNA4 die they binned out of the trash and gluing it together in a mad scramble.

 

[dyonoctis]

If you cherry pick games, you can influence results, no scheisse, Watson.

No RT improvement was reported by pretty much all reviewers.

Let me check the list.
Mm...

Alan Wake... wait, green sponsored.
CP2077... hm, again greeen sponsored
Control (notable for it's crappy perf on AMD GPUs as well as well as year 2005 looks)... oh wow, also green sponsored.

So in all titles that are green sponsored, the gap somehow stands out.

Probably just a coincidence...

To be fair, all RT AMD sponsored games are very light in RT, it wasn't really in AMD interest to go heavy when their GPUs can't handl...wait, that's weird, what are you doing here cyberpunk?

Ah. Ryzen showcase, not a Radeon showcase. With the mighty 7800X3D, but no mention of the GPU used

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Alright AMD. 4080 Performance (and equivalent-ish RT) for $700 or less and the market is yours.

I wonder if AMD's engineers are digging out the parts of whatever big chungus top end RDNA4 die they binned out of the trash and gluing it together in a mad scramble.

I mean the 5070ti should be about 15% below this making it 4080 like for $750 would an AMD card like that actually sell even for $649-699....

 

[lexluthermiester]

The funny thing is if you look back at the 4080 12GB and 4080 16GB the 4080 12GB had a similar 15% uplift over the 3080 the only difference this gen is we are not getting the better 5080 lol.

Now they don't have to cancel the meh 5080 we just won't get the good one...

There is merit to this point of view. The 5080 uptick was definitely not what was expected nor does it beat the 4090 as directly claimed and stated by Jensen.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

There is merit to this point of view. The 5080 uptick was definitely not what was expected nor does it beat the 4090 as directly claimed and stated by Jensen.

Did Jensen make any claims on rastor performance during the keynote? Wasn't all of that shit with frame gen?

 

[Chrispy_]

My 2 cents, this should not have been the 5080. It should have been a 5070ti. This is not a $1000 card. $850 is what this card should be priced at.

Remember how Nvidia tried to launch "half a 4090" at $900 as the 4080 12GB and the backlash was so great that Nvidia had to cancel the launch? Well the 5080 is "half a 5090" and people seem to have a very short memory if they're okay with the 5080 being called and priced what it is.

Fun fact, the 4070Ti was a bigger improvement over the 3080 than the 5080 is over the 4080, despite the cancellation, price drop, and rebranding. So yeah, the 5080 is even worse than the kind of generational improvement that they backpedalled as a 70-class GPU last time.

 

[AusWolf]

So we've got a 4080 Super renamed as a 5080 for the same MSRP. Wow, I'm amazed!

 

[Chrispy_]

For AMD to release a highend card this gen it would need to beat a 4090 not just be a few percent faster than a 5080 which is still slower than a 4090.

They've repeatedly stated that they're not releasing a high-end card, and that Navi 48 is the largest RDNA4 die.

This is a Polaris/5000-series generation where the midrange cards are the cards. Arguably, AMD did relatively well those years

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Remember how Nvidia tried to launch "half a 4090" at $900 as the 4080 12GB and the backlash was so great that Nvidia had to cancel the launch? Well the 5080 is "half a 5090" and people seem to have a very short memory if they're okay with the 5080 being called and priced what it is.

Fun fact, the 4070Ti was a bigger improvement over the 3080 than the 5080 is over the 4080, despite the cancellation, price drop, and rebranding. So yeah, the 5080 is even worse than the kind of generational improvement that they backpedalled as a 70-class GPU last time.

Honestly review after reviews was going like damn this is basically the 4080 12GB 2.0..... They just aren't offering the better version...

 

[Visible Noise]

This is definitely up there with one of the worst GPU gens. Performance increases seems to be entirely from the faster VRAM (except for the 5090 with it's higher core count, bus size).

Every launch Nvidia keeps redefining what is "good value" by messing with the SKUs and pricing to the point where people start thinking a $1,000 xx80 GPU with 8% improvement over last gen with no efficiency improvement, no increase in VRAM, no improvement to anything else, and an uptick in power consumption is good. They forgot that this tier was $700 two gens ago, washed away by the ridiculous $1,200 price tag of the 4080, and that carried a much larger performance uplift.

The lack of an improvement in price to performance bodes poorly for gamers, as games become more demanding the cost to play those games at the same settings increases as a result. Normall this tock generation is when we'd see improvement to price to perf but unfortunately Nvidia has decided to keep all those savings for itself. This is what a monopoly looks like.



I really don't think so The whole reason AMD could crack into the CPU market is because their CPUs could run almost every piece of software and their respective features.

The same doesn't apply in the GPU market. In a hypothetical scenario where Nvidia gets lazy, AMD still have to overcome the fact that large swathes of software and / or software features either only run on Nvidia or use an Nvidia accelerated framework. AMD could release a significantly faster product and it would be irrelevant to many professionals who have to use Nvidia because that's what their software essentially requires.

AMD essentially needs to out execute Nvidia for at least 6 years to try and break the stranglehold Nvidia has and frankley that's a tall ask for any company no matter how competant. All that assumes Nvidia doesn't play any more tricks as well. They've already gotten away with GPP and they have no issues throwing money at companies to add features that nuke competitor's performance. I'm sure if Nvidia felt threatened they would go right back to doing that. Mind you, they already exert signfiicant control over what features are included in games to begin with so they inherently have an advantage when designing their next gen products given they know what they are going to throw money at game devs from. AMD and Intel have to come from the back foot fighting a much larger compeititor with much more money.

AMD hasn't really cracked all of Intel's markets either, just look at the games OEMs play in the laptop market. They are still keeping AMD CPUs out of higher end products. I don't think people realize just how hard of an ask it is to except AMD to be able to crack a monopoly as strong as Nvidia.

You guys crack me up. AMD’s position is never due to their actions, it’s always someone else’s fault.

Don't start with "AMD did this" nonsense. AMD is not responsible for the actions of Nvidia and is not obligated to make high end cards so you can buy Nvidia cheaper

What a hypocrite.

 

[Makaveli]

They've repeatedly stated that they're not releasing a high-end card, and that Navi 48 is the largest RDNA4 die.

This is a Polaris/5000-series generation where the midrange cards are the cards. Arguably, AMD did relatively well those years

I know this.

My response was just replying to his specific statement.

We all know that there is nothing in the RDNA 4 line up that is going to be highend based on AMD previous statements. I agree that is it smart move and better to come back strong with UDNA in the highend.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

You guys crack me up. AMD’s position is never due to their actions, it’s always someone else’s fault.

I mean if people are seeing these massive 15% gains and going come to me daddy good for them nothing wrong with being easy to please......

Amd current situation is of their own doing like I've said multiple times it's a good thing they have Steamdeck/Xbox/Playstation locked up becuase I can't even imagine how bad it would be for them otherwise.

Imagine if the consoles were Nvidia based how games would run on Radeon lol...

 

[Visible Noise]

If 5080 is a fail, just like the 4080... i swear ill just buy the first next gen AMD card i find. Getting tired of Nvidia just putting all the power into the 90 cards.

What a joke of a GPU. Total garbage, and this is the first time i ever say that about any GPU. Even 4060 or the barely any better 4080Super... i didnt say a thing.

So you’ll be buying a 9070 XT then?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Did Jensen make any claims on rastor performance during the keynote? Wasn't all of that shit with frame gen?

He stated the 5080 beats the 4090. It does not.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Founders Edition Review

The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 is out now. Priced at $1000 it includes all the new GeForce RTX 50 features and offers good gaming performance. On the other hand, the gen-over-gen performance increase is smaller than expected, but NVIDIA didn't raise their pricing either.

www.techpowerup.com

Not even with framegen does it beat the 4090. Jensen very likely didn't see for himself the side-by-side perf comparisons(and seriously that's part of his job). Instead he likely just read from the speech the marketing nitwits made for him. So yes, Jensen ends up looking like a liar and that's not a good look.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

So you’ll be buying a 9070 XT then?

I think if every tier and especially the 5070/5060ti get the same love the 5080 did AMD has a real chance will they fumble it probably but I've said this before the door has never been wider for them.

Will the general consumer who mostly buy prebuilts or laptops actually care hell na they are gonna buy Nvidia like they always do...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Well the 5080 is "half a 5090" and people seem to have a very short memory if they're okay with the 5080 being called and priced what it is.

What?

The 5080 is less than a stellar performance and isn't worth $1000, but half of a 5090 it is not. 2/3rds sure.
The 4070ti/3090ti are half a 5090. Let's keep things accurate shall we?

 

[Visible Noise]

They've repeatedly stated that they're not releasing a high-end card, and that Navi 48 is the largest RDNA4 die.

This is a Polaris/5000-series generation where the midrange cards are the cards. Arguably, AMD did relatively well those years

Their small die strategy was the beginning of the end of AMD GPUs. And they are doing it again. They deserve all the failure that is headed their way.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Their small die strategy was the beginning of the end of AMD GPUs. And they are doing it again. They deserve all the failure that is headed their way.

The small die strategy was the golden era for AMD GPUs. Evergreen hit a 49% market share with the HD 5000 series, the highest AMD/ATI ever recorded.

Where they failed was the follow through execution and support. The HD 6000s were a lazy rebrandeon job, and Nvidia's tweaked Fermi hit like a freight train forcing the emergency deployment of the HD 6900 series. Had AMD had a proper 5870 replacement ready from day 1 they would have maintained the momentum and likely gained a market majority, and had they fixed their drivers a decade earlier they would have dominated between the HD 7000s and having all 3 consoles at the time (xbox one, PS4, wii U).

 

[Garrus]

Let's bench beyond 4K.

Pls

Pls

I beg

Use DSR

What a terrible idea.... lmao...