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Edward Snowden Lashes Out at NVIDIA Over GeForce RTX 50 Pricing And Value

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Now that is a name I would not have ever imagined writing about GPU's...
 

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Sounds like a glaring oversight has been made then. If SER hardware is mandatory to enable neural rendering, then it should have become a standard feature set of Direct X. And how is Intel also working on Neural rendering if they are not going to implement something similar to SER ?
Haha, maybe;) Let's compare in 2-3 years
 
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Communist talk
 
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I'm in a discord server with someone who bought a 5080 that was manufactured the 17 January...sounds like Nvidia rushed the launch

I am sure there will be, but where are all the others that were manufactured when nGreedia stopped RTX4000 production since last year October? Only 2000 for the U.S.A? No, no no no, something very wrong here.
 
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I am sure there will be, but where are all the others that were manufactured when nGreedia stopped RTX4000 production since last year October? Only 2000 for the U.S.A? No, no no no, something very wrong here.
They're being withheld to be reclassified as 5070 Ti Supers later.
 
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nvidia sells AI cards with 1000% profit margin and in the gpu market has no competition, they make their own weather like it or not. This is more a failure or the competition, every monopoly will end like this

What's funny is that AMD has faster cards for AI (MI300x and 350x). Nvidia is prone to get popped for its anti-competitive CUDA.
 
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Nvidia is prone to get popped for its anti-competitive CUDA.
Popped by who, the Orange Corleone? He's more likely to extort a few hundred million off of JHH so that he sells even more Blackwell GPUs to China :pimp:
 
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That's why AMD is the future. Realistic pricing with common sense frame buffers. 16GB VRAM was common place highend in 2017 for VEGA and VOTLA.
That's early to say because we don't know the actual price. Performance seems to be around RTX 5070 Ti which costs 750$.

700$ bad price
650$ nothing special
600$ good price (RX 7800 XT was 500$) There are no reason why technically RX 9070 XT should cost more than that! It has the same old cheap GDDR6 16GB and similar die size it's just overclocked much more aggressively that's it.
 
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Obviously he's referring to GPUs in the context of running LLMs locally instead of gaming?
 
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Obviously he's referring to GPUs in the context of running LLMs locally instead of gaming?

Then he should just buy a 7900xtx that has 24gb. Apparently, that card is crushing Nvidia at the new deepseek R1.
 
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At least someone is being vocal about it. Not just crying about prices on forums.
An average human is not celebrity who will listen to that? Best we can do is to insult anyone who buys RTX 5080 or something like that.
 
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This is rich coming from you. Go play a game or something.

Not a single counter argument and an equally without merit retort followed by a request to no longer partake in the conversation.
tsk tsk tsk.
 

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Not a single counter argument and an equally without merit retort followed by a request to no longer partake in the conversation.
tsk tsk tsk.
For one, I had just woken up, and two, I am not going to play your game.

An average human is not celebrity who will listen to that? Best we can do is to insult anyone who buys RTX 5080 or something like that.
He isn't a celeb to me. I was just happy someone said something outside of the forum space lol
 
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we desperately need gpus made in China
or somewhere else, but i guess they are our best bet.
 
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For one, I had just woken up, and two, I am not going to play your game.


He isn't a celeb to me. I was just happy someone said something outside of the forum space lol

what game would that be? I just pointed out the errors in your reactions/way of thinking.
You chose to reply with some (again baseless) sort of insult and now you are suddenly not ermm "playing" my? "game"...

you had just woken up, ok, so in a state of drowsiness you did not think clear enough and made a mistake, idk what the big fuzz is about then....could have just said that from the start, maybe even an "EDIT, I made a mistake, was not entirely there mentally when typing this" in the original post.
 
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That's early to say because we don't know the actual price. Performance seems to be around RTX 5070 Ti which costs 750$.

700$ bad price
650$ nothing special
600$ good price (RX 7800 XT was 500$) There are no reason why technically RX 9070 XT should cost more than that! It has the same old cheap GDDR6 16GB and similar die size it's just overclocked much more aggressively that's it.
Don't forget the RT tax. AMD has increased RT performance which means extra R&D work and 'value'. There even could be more transistors that do RT over the 7800XT but I'm not sure about that.
 

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Don't forget the RT tax. AMD has increased RT performance which means extra R&D work and 'value'. There even could be more transistors that do RT over the 7800XT but I'm not sure about that.
Right?

None of these guys are your buddies.

Your buddy would only borrow some money, not try and squeeze you for a months salary or more.
 
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won't you please think of these poor companies
 
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Snowden didn't want to run away to Russia but unfortunately another country doing fellate to the US government refused to grant him diplomatic asylum.

Snowden didn't have to run anywhere, least of all physically going to Russia and dumping everything in their lap. What did he think was going to happen traveling that route? The problem wasn't with what he was going to blow the whistle on, the problem was with all of the other data he had. When they do shit like this, they don't sit there for hours on end cherry picking from the databases, but instead lift as much of it as quickly as possible and then sort through it later. I'm sure there were screwed up things going on, but there has to be some discretion; especially if releasing classified information is going to get people killed. That's part of the responsibility of working in the intelligence field. You see something wrong, you don't go apeshit and try to burn the house down. Things may not move as quickly as one would like, but you won't be getting others killed in the process.
 
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LOL WUT? Oh man you're in deep aren't you :D

Real interesting yeah, all these non gaming features we never asked for, that cause GPU pricing to increase YoY
Speak on it brother! I don't give two _______ about the AI capability on the 5090, I just need it for the 4K gaming.
 
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