Will you buy a RTX 5090?

[Outback Bronze]

I was only able to get a card today due to me buying 2x PC's from them recently which constitutes CPU, MB, RAM, PSU.

Thought so. Thanks matey

 

[outlw6669]

It s really not every day, where you find a card that starts to make a Tower 900 start to feel cramped

Note the reservoir hanging to the side.
It used to be mounted above the fan cage (above the thermal energy meter).
No longer! The 5090 is too large for it to stay there!

I really can't wait for waterblock a to become available...

 

[T4C Fantasy]

I found a 5080 for the price of 2600 on amazon lol, i may have to wait 3 months for msrp

 

[Dragam1337]

That's the thing that hurts the most with only having one option and no real competition you've waited for the 50 series and it's kind of meh but what other options do you have waiting another 2 years sucks and sure you can wait another year hoping for a Super refresh but that also sucks. When people have waited 4+ years for a new generation and they have only 1 gpu maker option to get a meaningful improvement this is what we get.

I don't even care about what they want to charge I would rather have a 1200 usd 5080 that came with an actual generational improvements over a side grade over what we've had for the last 2 years.... The 5090 is whatever it does what it needs to do giving More vram and decent enough performance at 4k sure 2k+ sucks but that's just the price of having the best of anything value isn't all that important... I do wish it offered a more meaningful improvement over the 4090 though.

This generation doesn't really move the ball forward though you still need to kill your latency generating a ton more frames to use path tracing and even heavy RT crumbles on anything below the 2k flagship even path tracing with all the tricks is barely fast enough on the 5090 prior to kicking on frame gen to not have a console like experience latency wise and that is the real shame the sad thing is that is running a 4 year old game at this point...

When the generation defining feature makes latency and image quality worse and gamers gobble it up like Apple pie à la mode you know Nvidia has won.


That being said expensive hardware that offers minor generational improvements isn't even the biggest issue in gaming it's that we get at most a couple games worth a shite every year and even less that I would classify that even push the boundaries visually the only thing developers seem to want to do is use all these technologies Nvidia provide as a crutch instead of using them to make a game meaningfully better.

Yeah, i agree with all your points... especially your last point. But yeah, had 5080 been 1200 usd and essentially a 4090, i reckon people would have been able to accept that better.

Regarding the 5090 and it being a decent improvement over 4090 - after launch i've had a chance to look more into it, and while there are games that would now be playable at 8k vs 4090 being sub 60 fps in that scenario, in the most demanding games the 5090 wouldn't actually give that much of an improvement over the 4090. Take cyberpunk for instance - at native 4k with pathtracing the 5090 is 40% faster than 4090... but even the 5090 is only at 40 fps at that point. So you'd enable dlss quality, which brings 5090 advantage down to 25%. And if you were to use dlss performance, the advantage goes even further down to 20%.

So i feel like the 5090 is mostly alot faster when you don't need it / scenarios where fps is too low regardless, and not that much faster when you actually need more performance.

The above along with the now insane pricing has firmly made my mind up that i am skipping 5000 gen.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

Theres news about first batch 5090 are burning and bricked. Is this true?

 

[Frizz]

Theres news about first batch 5090 are burning and bricked. Is this true?

I've put mine through hell today with my side panel open overclocking and keeping attention to any strange smell coming from the GPU etc. hasn't blown up yet.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

I've put mine through hell today with my side panel open overclocking and keeping attention to any strange smell coming from the GPU etc. hasn't blown up yet.

Is yours a FE or another one?

 

[Frizz]

Is yours a FE or another one?

Palit, the bottom of the pile :3

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

Palit, the bottom of the pile :3

How does it oc?

 

[Frizz]

How does it oc?

+200 on core and +1400mem seems to work fine reached the score below so far. (Stock was around 13600-13900)

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

+200 on core and +1400mem seems to work fine reached the score below so far.

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Its 3x the score of my 4070. Is that gamerock?

 

[Frizz]

Its 3x the score of my 4070. Is that gamerock?

Yep Palit Gamerock non OC version close to MSRP.. Although I should mention the card runs at 2400-2700 Core Clock in 3D Mark anyway which is under 2800-2900 base clocks, weird.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

Yep Palit Gamerock non OC version close to MSRP.. Although I should mention the card runs at 2400-2700 Core Clock in 3D Mark anyway which is under 2800-2900 base clocks, weird.

Imo whole oc headroom comes from the unused integer cores nvidia added. But its a power headroom more than voltage.

 

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

Theres news about first batch 5090 are burning and bricked. Is this true?

If you're talking about a return to melted cables, Tom's Hardware report that the culprit was a 4090 used earlier.

RTX 5090 cable melting claim debunked — Investigation points at prior RTX 4090 FE cabling usage

No RTX 5090s were harmed in this incident.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Dragam1337]

+200 on core and +1400mem seems to work fine reached the score below so far. (Stock was around 13600-13900)

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Damn that's not alot of test results ! Shows how few consumers have actually gotten a 5090.

 

[Steevo]

I want one but not at $1100 more than I paid for a card that's kicking ass at 4K in all the games I play now. Maybe if it were $400 or 500 more.

 

[Frizz]

I want one but not at $1100 more than I paid for a card that's kicking ass at 4K in all the games I play now. Maybe if it were $400 or 500 more.

I'm not being an enabler but if you were in Australia you could probably sell your 4090 for 60-70% off a 5090 lol. Legit paying for the performance bump only.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Theres news about first batch 5090 are burning and bricked. Is this true?

No. The publication in Hong Kong that got a burned cable was due to a PSU fault, and they used it with a launch 4090 FE (with a known faulty connector) just before during their review process. They admitted their error already

 

[oxrufiioxo]

No. The publication in Hong Kong that got a burned cable was due to a PSU fault, and they used it with a launch 4090 FE (with a known faulty connector) just before during their review process. They admitted their error already

The brick thing seems to be legit though.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

Why the "brick" word? It has a concrete meaning. Almost like unbeatable. At least in spaceship battle games.

 

[Outback Bronze]

The brick thing seems to be legit though.

Der8auer also had issue's running pci-e 5.0 on his 5080: Tests revealed instability of NVIDIA RTX 5080 FE with PCIe 5.0 — the reason may be the design of the video card

Edit: This video he explains possible issue's arising and the limited availability:

 

[Dr. Dro]

The brick thing seems to be legit though.

I read up on it and it seems it only really affects the FE models that have breakaway PCBs, and apparently setting BIOS to limit it to PCIe gen 4 fixes the problem

 

[Dragam1337]

I'm not being an enabler but if you were in Australia you could probably sell your 4090 for 60-70% off a 5090 lol. Legit paying for the performance bump only.

That was what i was going to do, until the only store in denmark that got any 5090's sold them all to scalpers prior to launch, and you can't even preorder 5090's now, even at 3.5k usd store prices. And at that point, i can deffo live without a 5090.

I read up on it and it seems it only really affects the FE models that have breakaway PCBs, and apparently setting BIOS to limit it to PCIe gen 4 fixes the problem

Kinda massive fail on nvidia, if their FE models can only run gen 4 - might only lose 1% performance from it, but imagine how much trouble it's going to cause for people who buy them and aren't on tech forums !

 

[Dr. Dro]

Kinda massive fail on nvidia, if their FE models can only run gen 4 - might only lose 1% performance from it, but imagine how much trouble it's going to cause for people who buy them and aren't on tech forums !

It can probably be fixed with a BIOS update, but if it can't, I agree

 

[garrick]

No for 580,no for 590 to much to much [MONEY]