Bought new INTEL 1.5Tb SSD for 400$ - PCI SSD for my new PC

[Toss]

Hi experts, I bought new INTEL 1.5Tb SSD for 400$ for my new RIG. I bought it because it uses PCI express and not m2
Was I scammed? Speeds looks a bit low
Seller told it's the best SSD ever I can buy right now.

 

[Assimilator]

Would probably help if, you know, you told us what SSD.

 

[Toss]

Would probably help if, you know, you told us what SSD.

some Intel PCI SSD

 

[TSiAhmat]

400 $ for 1.5 tb sounds pretty expensive... bought my 4tb ones for 300 $ and these were already on the expensive side oh it's optane. Not sure what the prices and performance are on those ^^"

 

[Toss]

400 $ for 1.5 tb sounds pretty expensive... bought my 4tb ones for 300 $ and these were already on the expensive side

yes, I wanted fastest one for my new RIG. Seller told it's expensive cus it's best and uses PCI instead of M2

 

[TSiAhmat]

well it's PCIe 3.0 x4 so the speed is not to far off it's limit:

Holy sh*t these things are pricey

edit:

Spoiler

Seems to me like it works as advertised

 

[Toss]

well it's PCIe 3.0 x4 so the speed is not to far off it's limit:
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Holy sh*t these things are pricey

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why is this thing 3k eur if I bought for 400???

 

[TSiAhmat]

why is this thing 3k eur if I bought for 400???

no clue but probably business class if I look at that price ^^"

Edit: it's 1.5 TB of SLC (single level cell) cache with tbw of 82 PetaByte that's why...

 

[Toss]

no clue but probably business class if I look at that price ^^"

Edit: it's 1.5 TB of SLC cache with tbw of 82 PetaByte that's why...

what does SLC cache mean?

 

[TSiAhmat]

what does SLC cache mean?

Single layer cache, currently we use TLC (triple layer cache) & QLC (quad layer cache) in most storage devices (it's a lot less efficient in space but a lot better for reliability and speed)

i meant level & cell, my bad ;-;

 

[dgianstefani]

Single Layer Cache, currently we use TLC (triple Layer cache) & QLC (quad Layer cache) in most storage devices (it's a lot less efficient in space but a lot better for reliability and speed)

Completely wrong. Optane is it's own class of storage called 3DXPoint, not SLC cache at all.

OP got a good deal.

There's one faster SSD, the P5800X.

 

[TSiAhmat]

Completely wrong. Optane is it's own class of storage called 3DXPoint, not SLC cache at all.

I feel like you should have quoted that part

it's 1.5 TB of SLC cache with...

because I would not call the explanation to slc vs tlc/qlc "completely wrong"

But thanks for informing me nonetheless was not aware it was using a different technology.

(i got the acronyms wrong, seems like I never questioned them... my bad)

 

[AusWolf]

Single Layer Cache, currently we use TLC (triple Layer cache) & QLC (quad Layer cache) in most storage devices (it's a lot less efficient in space but a lot better for reliability and speed)

No. Just... no.

It means Single Level Cell, Multi Level Cell, Triple/Quad Level Cell. It means how many bits a memory cell can store. SLC is one bit, MLC is two bits, TLC is three and QLC is four.

SLC can store 0 or 1.
MLC can store 00, 01, 10 or 11.
TLC can store 000, 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, 110, or 111.
And so on.

The more bits you store in a cell, the faster it is to write/read, but the less reliable it is, as multiple bits are represented by different voltage levels in the cell. It's much easier to maintain a steady 0 or 1 state than all the variations in between. Therefore, SLC comes with better lifespan and speed, but with a much higher price. TLC and QLC transfer speeds are alleviated by SLC caching, DRAM, and more intelligent controllers.

Difference between SLC, MLC, TLC and 3D NAND in USB flash drives, SSDs and Memory cards

With the growth of the gaming industry, NAND technology looks to develop further in order to help satisfy consumers ever-increasing storage needs. Here we explain the key differences between the types of NAND.

www.kingston.com

Please read about the topic a little bit before trying to help others, okay? You're only misleading them otherwise.

 

[TSiAhmat]

No. Just... no.

It means Single Level Cell, Multi Level Cell, Triple/Quad Level Cell. It means how many bits a memory cell can store.

SLC can store 0 or 1.
MLC can store 00, 01, 10 or 11.
TLC can store 000, 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, 110, or 111.
And so on.

The more bits you store in a cell, the faster it is to write/read, but the less reliable it is, as the three bits are represented by different voltage levels in the cell. It's much easier to maintain a steady 0 or 1 state than all the variations in between. Therefore, SLC comes with better lifespan and speed, but with a much higher price. TLC and QLC transfer speeds are alleviated by SLC caching and more intelligent controllers.

Difference between SLC, MLC, TLC and 3D NAND in USB flash drives, SSDs and Memory cards

With the growth of the gaming industry, NAND technology looks to develop further in order to help satisfy consumers ever-increasing storage needs. Here we explain the key differences between the types of NAND.

www.kingston.com

Please read about the topic a little bit before trying to help others, okay? You're only misleading them otherwise.

ooooooops my bad, got the C (&L) wrong in name (i did know about it, SORRY)

 

[AusWolf]

ooooooops my bad, got the C wrong in name (i did know about it, SORRY)

And the L. But never mind.

By the way, linking a source is always helpful. That way, even if you get something wrong by a genuine mistake, the person asking the question still has the correct info available.

 

[AleXXX666]

yes, scam, bcuz it's "optane". Was "hyped" more for "cache speed", not storage. Pure BS, OVERPRICED.

 

[Contra]

This is a great drive, congratulations!

Yes, it doesn't have the biggest BW, but look at its latency - it's great!

And also huge endurance - you can write data to it 24/7 at maximum speed, and in this mode it will last for several years.
Another cool bonus - it is insensitive to power outages, so the OS can be configured without confirming the write - if the data got to the disk, it is guaranteed to be written. Therefore, optane is an ideal drive for zfs/slog/cache/etc.
I have the same one, only for m2.

 

[Chomiq]

Next time ask these questions BEFORE you buy something.

 

[Toss]

This is a great drive, congratulations!

Yes, it doesn't have the biggest BW, but look at its latency - it's great!

And also huge endurance - you can write data to it 24/7 at maximum speed, and in this mode it will last for several years.
Another cool bonus - it is insensitive to power outages, so the OS can be configured without confirming the write - if the data got to the disk, it is guaranteed to be written. Therefore, optane is an ideal drive for zfs/slog/cache/etc.
I have the same one, only for m2.

thx. I am happy because I was looking for most stable and fast C drive. I hope less chance my windows will die as a bonus

 

[R-T-B]

yes, scam, bcuz it's "optane". Was "hyped" more for "cache speed", not storage. Pure BS, OVERPRICED.

It's still the fastest media you can buy, regardless, and he got it at an insane price considering it is a DC part.

I own the "fastest" drive but I paid nearly a grand and a half for it. I'd say OP did fine, lol. Plus mine is 800GB and his is 1.5TB!

 

[SPDIF]

thx. I am happy because I was looking for most stable and fast C drive. I hope less chance my windows will die as a bonus

Having this SSD does not exactly mean less problems with Windows... LOL It's in fact one of the least problems to have on a drive.

I have about 6 optane SSD here in the shop, they are rock solid, but there are enough other problems with Optane does not resolve...

 

[Psychoholic]

Looks pretty good to me.. Optane has never been crazy fast in throughput.
Random 4K and Latency is where Optane does great, and those are where you get the 'snappy' feeling in the OS.

 

[SPDIF]

And most people test an SSD always the wrong way, do not test an SSD where windows is working at moment, boot from another SSD and test the drive being unused .
Testing from windows on the same drive is not realistic, windows is doing too much background stuff on the SSD with interferes with the results.

And choosing a slot the closest to the CPU is also helpfully to get the best results.