RTX 5090 ridiculous price!

[lexluthermiester]

If you want to have a laugh at ridiculous prices for the 5090s, check out fleabay I saw some up to $10,000AU, that's roughly $7,500US, maybe slightly less

We're seeing some of that state-side. Some are selling through but many are not. People seem to be getting smarter and waiting for stocks to come in.

 

[Dragam1337]

It's neither, it's just life. Millions of people just in the US alone splurge on things like luxury cars, huge mansion houses, expensive country club memberships, suite tickets for the local sports teams. The only problem with a hobby (like PC gaming) getting popular is now you got people in the top 5% income bracket interested and they aren't interested in bang for your buck or value for the dollar they just want performance.



Exactly. It's not like people are pulling risky high interest loans to buy these cards, it's just people that have lots of disposable money are now interested because the hobby is becoming more popular. Every hobby I've ever done in the last 15 years has gone through phases of this (PC gaming, trading cards, retro cars, vintage guitars, golf).

There is a world outside the us, you know - in fact the vast majority of the world is outside the us.

And if nvidia purely caters to rich 'muricans going forward, then i can see a sharp decline in their popularity in the near future amongst gamers.

If you want to have a laugh at ridiculous prices for the 5090s, check out fleabay I saw some up to $10,000AU, that's roughly $7,500US, maybe slightly less

Scalpers charging crazy prices is not too surprising... asus selling 5090's on their own webstore for 5k usd however...

 

[Draconian]

AMD bowed out of competing with this generation - rang the dinner bell for NVIDIA.
NVIDIA knows you will grumble about the price. They also don't care if you grumble, they are fully aware that there are plenty of people that will fork out outlandish money for the card - especially proven by the 4090 - every one they build is immediately sold and used cards are almost as expensive (and sometimes more expensive because of supply / demand) as new cards. A.I. is also driving the prices - huge demand plus deep pockets - why would NVIDIA sell a 5090 for a reasonable price to a PC user when they can sell the same card for A.I. at a steep price? NVIDIA knows A.I. folks will pay 2K+ for the card - so....you will too.

 

[Bomby569]

AMD bowed out of competing with this generation - rang the dinner bell for NVIDIA.
NVIDIA knows you will grumble about the price. They also don't care if you grumble, they are fully aware that there are plenty of people that will fork out outlandish money for the card - especially proven by the 4090 - every one they build is immediately sold and used cards are almost as expensive (and sometimes more expensive because of supply / demand) as new cards. A.I. is also driving the prices - huge demand plus deep pockets - why would NVIDIA sell a 5090 for a reasonable price to a PC user when they can sell the same card for A.I. at a steep price? NVIDIA knows A.I. folks will pay 2K+ for the card - so....you will too.

Even when AMD doesn't bow, they shoot their own feet. Not sure it matters much what AMD does at this point. Wishful thinking.

 

[Dragam1337]

AMD bowed out of competing with this generation - rang the dinner bell for NVIDIA.
NVIDIA knows you will grumble about the price. They also don't care if you grumble, they are fully aware that there are plenty of people that will fork out outlandish money for the card - especially proven by the 4090 - every one they build is immediately sold and used cards are almost as expensive (and sometimes more expensive because of supply / demand) as new cards. A.I. is also driving the prices - huge demand plus deep pockets - why would NVIDIA sell a 5090 for a reasonable price to a PC user when they can sell the same card for A.I. at a steep price? NVIDIA knows A.I. folks will pay 2K+ for the card - so....you will too.

That's the entire issue with nvidia only making 1 achitecture. It's a general purpose accelerator card, and now primarily being optimized towards ai workloads. A gpu being purely being optimized towards gaming could be stripped from much of the fluff, giving you more performance with a smaller chip at less powerdraw... and then gamers wouldn't be competiting for the same chips as server / ai market. Worked great the last time they did it with the 900 series.

 

[igormp]

That's the entire issue with nvidia only making 1 achitecture. It's a general purpose accelerator card, and now primarily being optimized towards ai workloads. A gpu being purely being optimized towards gaming could be stripped from much of the fluff, giving you more performance with a smaller chip at less powerdraw... and then gamers wouldn't be competiting for the same chips as server / ai market. Worked great the last time they did it with the 900 series.

900 series was maxwell, which was also used on tesla and quadro products in the same manner as it is today.
Problem with different architectures is that you end up having to do more R&D work, and you also face issues when it comes to chip allocation. Just see how RDNA is struggling compared to CDNA on AMD'a aide.
OTOH, their Zen stack follows the 1 architecture idea, and can be used for both Ryzen and Epyc setups, similar to how nvidia does with their chips.

 

[Dragam1337]

900 series was maxwell, which was also used on tesla and quadro products in the same manner as it is today.
Problem with different architectures is that you end up having to do more R&D work, and you also face issues when it comes to chip allocation. Just see how RDNA is struggling compared to CDNA on AMD'a aide.
OTOH, their Zen stack follows the 1 architecture idea, and can be used for both Ryzen and Epyc setups, similar to how nvidia does with their chips.

You are correct, my memory failed me there in regards to 900 series

More than 1 architecture would perhaps be bad for nvidia, but i am 100% certain it would be better for consumers, if we didn't have to compete with non-gaming workloads.