RTX 5080 - premature review - it sucks

[AusWolf]

I feel like RT is moderately following the same general initial overhype path we saw with Physx and then developer regression and general lack of targeted implementation that a initial hype demonstrative push. Like looking PhysX today it's still not even close to what was projected. Like where are our hundreds of thousands of leaves that blow around and get kicked around and fall off tree's in games that add to the immersion factor? Like I can't think of a single game I've encountered that has done that on any significant level that was impressive at all in terms visual effect let alone done so in a manner that has minimal impact due to hardware acceleration.

Now that you mentioned it, those hundreds of leaves blowing in the wind would make my immersion a lot more intense than some shiny puddles. I just remembered how excited I was when Ageia (not Nvidia) PhysX came around. I thought it would gain a lot more traction when Nvidia bought the company. Well, it didn't.

 

[JustBenching]

I feel like RT is moderately following the same general initial overhype path we saw with Physx and then developer regression and general lack of targeted implementation that a initial hype demonstrative push. Like looking PhysX today it's still not even close to what was projected. Like where are our hundreds of thousands of leaves that blow around and get kicked around and fall off tree's in games that add to the immersion factor? Like I can't think of a single game I've encountered that has done that on any significant level that was impressive at all in terms visual effect let alone done so in a manner that has minimal impact due to hardware acceleration.

All three gpu companies are focused on RT, consoles are now focused and targeting RT, most aaa games have RT implemented. It's not going anywhere.

 

[TSiAhmat]

Current cheapest 4080 super is around 1200 € in my country. (was 999€ 2~3 Months ago)

Spoiler

The cheapest 5080 is 1169 € MSRP (which you cant buy)

Basically 11 % Performance increase for at least 16% price increase. (P/P decrease)

Sad times for my Region...

Now that you mentioned it, those hundreds of leaves blowing in the wind would make my immersion a lot more intense than some shiny puddles. I just remembered how excited I was when Ageia (not Nvidia) PhysX came around. I thought it would gain a lot more traction when Nvidia bought the company. Well, it didn't.

I assume we get something new and shiny from Nvidia/AMD/Intel when RT performance-cost, implementation & looks is mostly solved. (which will still take some years/generations)


Edit:

Spoiler

Just look at these prices ;-;

 

[SugarDunkerton]

In the US if you can snag a 5089 it's $400 cheaper than a used 4080 and $700 cheaper than a 4090. So it's cost effective if you get any MSRP launch model. A used 4080 should be $800-900 but people keep thinking the 40 series is better.

 

[Assimilator]

Now that you mentioned it, those hundreds of leaves blowing in the wind would make my immersion a lot more intense than some shiny puddles. I just remembered how excited I was when Ageia (not Nvidia) PhysX came around. I thought it would gain a lot more traction when Nvidia bought the company. Well, it didn't.

It didn't get traction for the same reason most technologies don't: it required a lot of work by developers to implement and there were stronger, more feasible competitors e.g. Havok.

Sadly there are a whole bunch of good technologies (including ray-/path-tracing) that could provide a far more immersive gaming experience, but because game dev is now about making money as opposed to making good games or pushing boundaries, these techs don't get implemented. For example, we probably won't ever see another Crysis.

Semi-related: if you want a game that innovates using nothing more than audio, I suggest giving Betrayer a look if you haven't already.

 

[AusWolf]

Semi-related: if you want a game that innovates using nothing more than audio, I suggest giving Betrayer a look if you haven't already.

Interesting - even more so that I seem to have it in my library. I'll check it out.

Speaking of audio, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice was another interesting one for me. I didn't understand why the game opened with recommending headphones until I started playing it.

 

[_roman_]

Current cheapest 4080 super is around 1200 € in my country. (was 999€ 2~3 Months ago)

Spoiler

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PC games hardware claimed a few hours ago that the 4080 super left kinda fast the market.

Geforce RTX 4080 Super verlässt fluchtartig den Markt

Nach dem (misslungenen) Launch der RTX 5090 und 5080 wird das Angebot der Geforce RTX 4080 Super auf dem Markt immer dünner und die Preise steigen.

www.pcgameshardware.de

4090 is also gone.

the left pieces are expensive. You have the same for certain eol amd graphic cards also on geizhals = price comparison site in german language in central europe / poland / uk

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Do not take it personally. When you are a gamer and do not have a graphic card - it was your choice. I was 2023 after the nvidia 960 gtx several months without a graphic card and than after the radeon 6800 non xt several months without a graphic card. I bought and sold lots of hardware in 2023. AM4 switch to am5. testing different graphic cards - 960 was used purchase.

Therse are not hard times - these are your choices to speculate with cheaper better new graphic cards.

 

[TSiAhmat]

the left pieces are expensive. You have the same for certain eol amd graphic cards also on geizhals = price comparison site in german language in central europe / poland / uk

eh yeah, but the 7900xtx is currently around 899 € (300€ less than the 4080S) or what eol amd cards are you talking about?

 

[AusWolf]

PC games hardware claimed a few hours ago that the 4080 super left kinda fast the market.

Geforce RTX 4080 Super verlässt fluchtartig den Markt

Nach dem (misslungenen) Launch der RTX 5090 und 5080 wird das Angebot der Geforce RTX 4080 Super auf dem Markt immer dünner und die Preise steigen.

www.pcgameshardware.de

4090 is also gone.

the left pieces are expensive. You have the same for certain eol amd graphic cards also on geizhals = price comparison site in german language in central europe / poland / uk

Clearing stock during a generation change is normal. The question is, how long can stores carry on selling nothing - how long AMD and Nvidia will continue to let them.

 

[_roman_]

I feel like RT is moderately following the same general initial overhype path we saw with Physx and then developer regression and general lack of targeted implementation that a initial hype demonstrative push.

I see it as technical demonstrations. Nvidia paid for certain software. There are only 3 or 4 games which are always taken with bad graphics.

Maybe someone knows in details. I do not really care for nvidia details. Which games were heavily sponsored with nvidia software feature a, b, c, d which amd graphic cards do not have.

GTA V+ advanced edition with bad reflextion, wizard flying simulator, alan sleeps now

eh yeah, but the 7900xtx is currently around 899 € (300€ less than the 4080S) or what eol amd cards are you talking about?

I thought about the 7900 gre which had extreme price hikes in past weeks. It seems to be fine now on geizhals.
Radeon 6800 non xt seems to have a few pieces again for sale. These were also gone already in past months.

I missed my chances for the 7900 gre. I waited too long. The card came quite late. Same as the 7500f - that came also quite late to the local purchaseable market.

 

[TSiAhmat]

I thought about the 7900 gre which had extreme price hikes in past weeks. It seems to be fine now on geizhals.
Radeon 6800 non xt seems to have a few pieces again for sale. These were also gone already in past months.

I missed my chances for the 7900 gre. I waited too long. The card came quite late. Same as the 7500f - that came also quite late to the local purchaseable market.

Oh yeah I see it now, makes no sense to go for the gre if you can get the 7900xt for the same or less money

 

[Sound_Card]

Nvidia is getting absolutely murdered in the comment sections of these videos:

 

[Dr. Dro]

Nvidia is getting absolutely murdered in the comment sections of these videos:

...and what is the relevance of this information?

 

[freeagent]

Once 9070XT is out 7900XTX will be old news and get pushed off to the wayside.

 

[Klemc]

I feel like RT is moderately following the same general initial overhype path we saw with Physx and then developer regression and general lack of targeted implementation that a initial hype demonstrative push. Like looking PhysX today it's still not even close to what was projected. Like where are our hundreds of thousands of leaves that blow around and get kicked around and fall off tree's in games that add to the immersion factor? Like I can't think of a single game I've encountered that has done that on any significant level that was impressive at all in terms visual effect let alone done so in a manner that has minimal impact due to hardware acceleration.

Look at this list (filter: Type=Game + Ray Tracing=Yes) you can find all that's been RTX.

152 total to check:

Spoiler

A Plague Tale: Requiem
AMID EVIL
Aron's Adventure
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
Batora: Lost Haven
Battlefield 2042
Battlefield V
Bleak Faith: Forsaken
Blind Fate: Edo no Yami
Bright Memory
Bright Memory: Infinite
Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
Chernobylite
Chorus
Control
Crysis 2 Remastered
Crysis 3 Remastered
Crysis Remastered
Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow
Dead Space
Deathloop
Deliver Us Mars
Deliver Us The Moon
Delta Force
Diablo IV
DiRT 5
Dolmen
Domino Simulator
DOOM Eternal
Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Dragon's Dogma 2
Dying Light 2 Stay Human
Echo Point Nova
Elden Ring
Escape From Naraka
EVOTINCTION
F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch
F1 2021
F1 22
F1 23
F1 24
Far Cry 6
Five Nights At Freddy’s: Security Breach
Forspoken
Fortnite
Forza Horizon 5
Forza Motorsport
Ghostrunner
Ghostrunner 2
Ghostwire: Tokyo
Godfall
Gori: Cuddly Carnage
Gotham Knights
Gray Zone Warfare
Gripper
Gungrave G.O.R.E
Halo Infinite
Helios
Hell Pie
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Hello Neighbor 2
HITMAN World of Assassination
Hogwarts Legacy
ICARUS
INDUSTRIA
Jurassic World Evolution 2
Justice
Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess
Layers of Fear
LEGO Builder's Journey
LEGO Horizon Adventures
Life Is Strange: True Colors
Little Nightmares II
Loopmancer
Martha Is Dead
Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
Marvel's Midnight Suns
Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
Marvel's Spider-Man 2
MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries
Mercs Fully Loaded
Metro Exodus
Metro Exodus PC Enhanced Edition
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
Moonlight Blade
Mortal Shell
Myst
NINJA GAIDEN 2 Black
Observer: System Redux
orbit.industries
Paradise Killer
PERISH
Pinball FX
Poker Club
Pumpkin Jack
Q.U.B.E. 10th Anniversary
Raji: An Ancient Epic
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
RAZE 2070
Redfall
Redout: Space Assault
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil 7
Resident Evil Village
Returnal
Ring of Elysium
RIPOUT
Rune II
Saboteur
Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Saints Row
Severed Steel
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
SILENT HILL 2
Skull and Bones
Soulmate
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
Star Wars Outlaws
Stay in the Light
Steelrising
Sword and Fairy 7
The Ascent
The Callisto Protocol
The Fabled Woods
THE FINALS
The First Descendant
The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
The Medium
The Orville Interactive Fan Experience
The Persistence
The Riftbreaker
The Swordsmen X: Survival
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
TIME BREAKER
Titan Station
To Hell With It
Tower of Fantasy
TRAIL OUT
Turbo Sloths
Until Dawn
Warhaven
War Thunder
Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
Watch Dogs: Legion
Who Is Abby
Wolfenstein: Youngblood
World of Warcraft: Shadowlands
Wrench
Xuan-Yuan Sword VII

 

[Rungar]

Looks like they are just reaching the limits of the technology. Theres only so much you can squeeze out of it. Good in a way since if you get something good now you wont have to upgrade it. This should lower expectations going forward. Games is only a side business for both nvidia and amd anyway. I imagine the next upgrade will have similar raw power but ten times the ai shit.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Look at this list (filter: Type=Game + Ray Tracing=Yes) you can find all that's been RTX.

152 total to check:

Spoiler

A Plague Tale: Requiem
AMID EVIL
Aron's Adventure
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
Batora: Lost Haven
Battlefield 2042
Battlefield V
Bleak Faith: Forsaken
Blind Fate: Edo no Yami
Bright Memory
Bright Memory: Infinite
Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
Chernobylite
Chorus
Control
Crysis 2 Remastered
Crysis 3 Remastered
Crysis Remastered
Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow
Dead Space
Deathloop
Deliver Us Mars
Deliver Us The Moon
Delta Force
Diablo IV
DiRT 5
Dolmen
Domino Simulator
DOOM Eternal
Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Dragon's Dogma 2
Dying Light 2 Stay Human
Echo Point Nova
Elden Ring
Escape From Naraka
EVOTINCTION
F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch
F1 2021
F1 22
F1 23
F1 24
Far Cry 6
Five Nights At Freddy’s: Security Breach
Forspoken
Fortnite
Forza Horizon 5
Forza Motorsport
Ghostrunner
Ghostrunner 2
Ghostwire: Tokyo
Godfall
Gori: Cuddly Carnage
Gotham Knights
Gray Zone Warfare
Gripper
Gungrave G.O.R.E
Halo Infinite
Helios
Hell Pie
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Hello Neighbor 2
HITMAN World of Assassination
Hogwarts Legacy
ICARUS
INDUSTRIA
Jurassic World Evolution 2
Justice
Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess
Layers of Fear
LEGO Builder's Journey
LEGO Horizon Adventures
Life Is Strange: True Colors
Little Nightmares II
Loopmancer
Martha Is Dead
Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
Marvel's Midnight Suns
Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
Marvel's Spider-Man 2
MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries
Mercs Fully Loaded
Metro Exodus
Metro Exodus PC Enhanced Edition
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
Moonlight Blade
Mortal Shell
Myst
NINJA GAIDEN 2 Black
Observer: System Redux
orbit.industries
Paradise Killer
PERISH
Pinball FX
Poker Club
Pumpkin Jack
Q.U.B.E. 10th Anniversary
Raji: An Ancient Epic
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
RAZE 2070
Redfall
Redout: Space Assault
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil 7
Resident Evil Village
Returnal
Ring of Elysium
RIPOUT
Rune II
Saboteur
Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Saints Row
Severed Steel
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
SILENT HILL 2
Skull and Bones
Soulmate
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
Star Wars Outlaws
Stay in the Light
Steelrising
Sword and Fairy 7
The Ascent
The Callisto Protocol
The Fabled Woods
THE FINALS
The First Descendant
The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
The Medium
The Orville Interactive Fan Experience
The Persistence
The Riftbreaker
The Swordsmen X: Survival
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
TIME BREAKER
Titan Station
To Hell With It
Tower of Fantasy
TRAIL OUT
Turbo Sloths
Until Dawn
Warhaven
War Thunder
Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
Watch Dogs: Legion
Who Is Abby
Wolfenstein: Youngblood
World of Warcraft: Shadowlands
Wrench
Xuan-Yuan Sword VII

Not an exhaustive list by any means, it's missing games like Wukong, but notice how all of them are high production value releases.

On a side note, Wuthering Waves will be adding RT soon. It'll be the first of the action adventure/RPG gacha games to do so.

 

[_roman_]

Nvidia i...

In response to post #337

Youtube videos for gpu performance are nonsense. Not valid information. Someone most likely put together a video with random - estimated numbers. Same nonsense as igorslab, ltt and hardware unboxed for 50% of their contents.

Do you really think someone has access to so many different graphic cards? Just calculate the money and time it takes if you make such video properly. Money for storage, labour, money for hardware for gpu, cpu, mainboard, ram, psu, pc case, game licenses.
Big websites like hardwareluxx.de, pcgameshardware.de, computerbase.de only have access to a few certain graphic cards. Or gamers nexus has access to such massive amount of graphic card.

Just do not post such fake nonsense please.

 

[Dragam1337]

Look at this list (filter: Type=Game + Ray Tracing=Yes) you can find all that's been RTX.

152 total to check:

Spoiler

A Plague Tale: Requiem
AMID EVIL
Aron's Adventure
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
Batora: Lost Haven
Battlefield 2042
Battlefield V
Bleak Faith: Forsaken
Blind Fate: Edo no Yami
Bright Memory
Bright Memory: Infinite
Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
Chernobylite
Chorus
Control
Crysis 2 Remastered
Crysis 3 Remastered
Crysis Remastered
Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow
Dead Space
Deathloop
Deliver Us Mars
Deliver Us The Moon
Delta Force
Diablo IV
DiRT 5
Dolmen
Domino Simulator
DOOM Eternal
Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Dragon's Dogma 2
Dying Light 2 Stay Human
Echo Point Nova
Elden Ring
Escape From Naraka
EVOTINCTION
F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch
F1 2021
F1 22
F1 23
F1 24
Far Cry 6
Five Nights At Freddy’s: Security Breach
Forspoken
Fortnite
Forza Horizon 5
Forza Motorsport
Ghostrunner
Ghostrunner 2
Ghostwire: Tokyo
Godfall
Gori: Cuddly Carnage
Gotham Knights
Gray Zone Warfare
Gripper
Gungrave G.O.R.E
Halo Infinite
Helios
Hell Pie
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Hello Neighbor 2
HITMAN World of Assassination
Hogwarts Legacy
ICARUS
INDUSTRIA
Jurassic World Evolution 2
Justice
Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess
Layers of Fear
LEGO Builder's Journey
LEGO Horizon Adventures
Life Is Strange: True Colors
Little Nightmares II
Loopmancer
Martha Is Dead
Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
Marvel's Midnight Suns
Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
Marvel's Spider-Man 2
MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries
Mercs Fully Loaded
Metro Exodus
Metro Exodus PC Enhanced Edition
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
Moonlight Blade
Mortal Shell
Myst
NINJA GAIDEN 2 Black
Observer: System Redux
orbit.industries
Paradise Killer
PERISH
Pinball FX
Poker Club
Pumpkin Jack
Q.U.B.E. 10th Anniversary
Raji: An Ancient Epic
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
RAZE 2070
Redfall
Redout: Space Assault
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil 7
Resident Evil Village
Returnal
Ring of Elysium
RIPOUT
Rune II
Saboteur
Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Saints Row
Severed Steel
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
SILENT HILL 2
Skull and Bones
Soulmate
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
Star Wars Outlaws
Stay in the Light
Steelrising
Sword and Fairy 7
The Ascent
The Callisto Protocol
The Fabled Woods
THE FINALS
The First Descendant
The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
The Medium
The Orville Interactive Fan Experience
The Persistence
The Riftbreaker
The Swordsmen X: Survival
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
TIME BREAKER
Titan Station
To Hell With It
Tower of Fantasy
TRAIL OUT
Turbo Sloths
Until Dawn
Warhaven
War Thunder
Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
Watch Dogs: Legion
Who Is Abby
Wolfenstein: Youngblood
World of Warcraft: Shadowlands
Wrench
Xuan-Yuan Sword VII

The VAST majority of them have gimmicky levels of rt, exactly akin to physx. Like rt ambient occlusion... really... might aswell not have added it. But they did just to say it has RAYTRACING !!!

Very few games have any meaningful raytracing - only really cyberpunk and alan awake 2. And both of them require serious hardware to run with pathtracing, where you essentially need all the nvidia fake frame crutches to have playable fps.

I see it as technical demonstrations. Nvidia paid for certain software. There are only 3 or 4 games which are always taken with bad graphics.

Maybe someone knows in details. I do not really care for nvidia details. Which games were heavily sponsored with nvidia software feature a, b, c, d which amd graphic cards do not have.

GTA V+ advanced edition with bad reflextion, wizard flying simulator, alan sleeps now



I thought about the 7900 gre which had extreme price hikes in past weeks. It seems to be fine now on geizhals.
Radeon 6800 non xt seems to have a few pieces again for sale. These were also gone already in past months.

I missed my chances for the 7900 gre. I waited too long. The card came quite late. Same as the 7500f - that came also quite late to the local purchaseable market.

It is indeed only a few nvidia sponsored titles that have full raytracing, and it indeed primarily serves as a tech demo, and a means to try and sell more cards, and justify why half the gpu die is wasted on rt and tensor cores rather than more raster cores.

In response to post #337

Youtube videos for gpu performance are nonsense. Not valid information. Someone most likely put together a video with random - estimated numbers. Same nonsense as igorslab, ltt and hardware unboxed for 50% of their contents.

Do you really think someone has access to so many different graphic cards? Just calculate the money and time it takes if you make such video properly. Money for storage, labour, money for hardware for gpu, cpu, mainboard, ram, psu, pc case, game licenses.
Big websites like hardwareluxx.de, pcgameshardware.de, computerbase.de only have access to a few certain graphic cards. Or gamers nexus has access to such massive amount of graphic card.

Just do not post such fake nonsense please.

Ehhh, yeah... ltt, hardware unboxed and gamers nexus 100% have all those cards. It's not a big deal for big youtubers making millions.

Looks like they are just reaching the limits of the technology. Theres only so much you can squeeze out of it. Good in a way since if you get something good now you wont have to upgrade it. This should lower expectations going forward. Games is only a side business for both nvidia and amd anyway. I imagine the next upgrade will have similar raw power but ten times the ai shit.

Sadly sounds about right that raster won't improve - might even regress to make space for more ai crap.

 

[_roman_]

Ehhh, yeah... ltt, hardware unboxed and gamers nexus 100% have all those cards. It's not a big deal for big youtubers making millions.

I try again. (same post - same topic)

ltt, hardware unboxed and gamers nexus 100% have all those cards.

Random youtube guy most likely do not have that hardware - in response to post #337 - in resonse to that nonsense video which was in post #337

in response to #337 - check that nonsense channel - just scroll on the nonsense link on post #337 - check that channel and scroll down - pick a random video

Do you really think someone can afford such hardware?
- a few minutes ago - I will not share where I saw it.
Estimate money from youtube for 200.000 views - tech video channel = 100 Us dollar. that should be 0.05 us dollar per video view.

I love those clickbait nonsense - from that channel:


i5 3470 vs i5 13400F - 11 Years Difference


i7 1st 870 vs i7 14th 14700K - 14 Years Difference

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I sold my am4 plattform early 2023.

I therefore bought and sold quite soon a MSI 960 GTX 4GB card which was used with a ryzen 5800x / 3 3100

That card had issues wiht subnautica with lowest settings. Encased game big issues.
I do own the last of us part 1 or star wars jedi survivor. These games are much more demanding than subnautica

Just nonsense.

 

[Dragam1337]

I try again. (same post - same topic)

ltt, hardware unboxed and gamers nexus 100% have all those cards.

Random youtube guy most likely do not have that hardware - in response to post #337 - in resonse to that nonsense video which was in post #337

in response to #337 - check that nonsense channel - just scroll on the nonsense link on post #337 - check that channel and scroll down - pick a random video

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Do you really think someone can afford such hardware?
- a few minutes ago - I will not share where I saw it.
Estimate money from youtube for 200.000 views - tech video channel = 100 Us dollar. that should be 0.05 us dollar per video view.

I love those clickbait nonsense - from that channel:


i5 3470 vs i5 13400F - 11 Years Difference


i7 1st 870 vs i7 14th 14700K - 14 Years Difference

--

I sold my am4 plattform early 2023.

I therefore bought and sold quite soon a MSI 960 GTX 4GB card which was used with a ryzen 5800x / 3 3100

That card had issues wiht subnautica with lowest settings. Encased game big issues.
I do own the last of us part 1 or star wars jedi survivor. These games are much more demanding than subnautica

Just nonsense.

I missunderstood your post - i fully agree, those random compare channels are just posting game vids with fabricated overlays.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nvidia is getting absolutely murdered in the comment sections of these videos:

The drivel that commenters post is of no concern to anyone watching that video and understanding it. Interesting video.

Once 9070XT is out 7900XTX will be old news and get pushed off to the wayside.

You think the 9070XT will beat out the 7900XTX?

 

[freeagent]

The drivel that commenters post is of no concern to anyone watching that video and understanding it. Interesting video.


You think the 9070XT will beat out the 7900XTX?

In ray tracing for sure

 

[lexluthermiester]

In ray tracing for sure

Ah yes, good point.

 

[Rungar]

wouldnt suprise me at all if they separated the cards and you would need to buy a rasterization card and a utility card that does all the specialty stuff like AI, RT etc. $1000 for the raster card but only $500 for the utility card lol. what a deal