RTX 5080 - premature review - it sucks

[AusWolf]

AAA games has increasingly sucked in recent years due to many of them focusing on agendas or chasing trends, instead of just focusing on making good games.

Also on being big, being full of content instead of any of that content being any good. Large open maps with nothing to do. Endless fetch quests. Boring, meaningless running around. That's what AAA is these days.

Indie games just doesn't appeal to me tbh - i much prefer big epic AAA games like witcher 3 and red dead redemption 2

Those are great games! The Witcher series is my all-time favourite. If that was what AAA gaming is even now, I'd say fair enough.

As for indies, I think I should specify. I wasn't talking about games that Joe put together in a weekend in his dad's garage. More like titles like Abzu, Stray, or even The Talos Principle (in a way that it's not an AAA game in the strict sense). I've had way more fun playing these kind of games lately than AAA titles.

 

[Dragam1337]

Also on being big, being full of content instead of any of that content being any good. Large open maps with nothing to do. Endless fetch quests. Boring, meaningless running around. That's what AAA is these days.


Those are great games! The Witcher series is my all-time favourite. If that was what AAA gaming is even now, I'd say fair enough.

As for indies, I think I should specify. I wasn't talking about games that Joe put together in a weekend in his dad's garage. More like titles like Abzu, Stray, or even The Talos Principle (in a way that it's not an AAA game in the strict sense). I've had way more fun playing these kind of games lately than AAA titles.

Sadly too true... the ubisoft formula. But it looks like they are either improving considerably, or going the way of the dodo.

Same ! Still have the witcher 3 soundtrack running in my head daily

Ahh, ok - yeah i wouldn't have considered those indie games. I played both stray and talos principle 2 - good games. Maybe AA games though ?

 

[redeye]

It is totally a regional thing. 7900XTX is almost 1600 for me, plus tax.

what model?… Canada computers has a 7900xtx for 1299 (approximately)… in Coquitlam, BC…

 

[AusWolf]

Sadly too true... the ubisoft formula. But it looks like they are either improving considerably, or going the way of the dodo.

It's rather the latter the way I see it.

Same ! Still have the witcher 3 soundtrack running in my head daily

Same, just with The Witcher 1. Temple District at night, hmm! And I admit, I'm waiting for The Witcher 1 remake even more than The Witcher 4.

Ahh, ok - yeah i wouldn't have considered those indie games. I played both stray and talos principle 2 - good games. Maybe AA games though ?

Ok, AA, or just A, whatevs.

 

[Dragam1337]

It's rather the latter the way I see it.


Same, just with The Witcher 1. Temple District at night, hmm! And I admit, I'm waiting for The Witcher 1 remake even more than The Witcher 4.


Ok, AA, or just A, whatevs.

Yep, hard to see them changing their ways after this many years - they have just been about bloat for more than 10 years at this point. If it's true that everything is riding on ac shadows being a success, then they might aswell hold the farewell party now.

Me too I reaaaaally hope they make a faithful remake, and don't sanitize it.

Yeah, something inbetween indie and AAA games. It's what i've mostly been playing aswell in recent years, aside of playstation games.

 

[JustBenching]

Yep, hard to see them changing their ways after this many years - they have just been about bloat for more than 10 years at this point. If it's true that everything is riding on ac shadows being a success, then they might aswell hold the farewell party now.

Me too I reaaaaally hope they make a faithful remake, and don't sanitize it.

Yeah, something inbetween indie and AAA games. It's what i've mostly been playing aswell in recent years, aside of playstation games.

Ubi and bio are dead already. Have been for many years, but soon it will be official.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Ah the RT argument! Because if a card can do RT, it's worth infinite money, obviously.

You mock, but RTRT is a selling point. For the games that utilize it correctly, the results are stunning. So yes, the RTRT point is a valid one. Neither AMD nor Intel have the same level of performance NVidia offers. It's a very compelling factor in a buying choice.

 

[Dragam1337]

You mock, but RTRT is a selling point. For the games that utilize it correctly, the results are stunning. So yes, the RTRT point is a valid one. Neither AMD nor Intel have the same level of performance NVidia offers. It's a very compelling factor in a buying choice.

Largely depends on what kinda games you play. The vast majority of people only really play multiplayer games, where you essentially do not want to use rt.. more like lowest settings you can use.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

And will be for at least another two years - wild! 4.5 years at more or less the same level of performance around ~$1000 mark. If games continue to up the requirements at the same rate they do now, everyone and their dog will be using framegen, lol.

Maybe that's what Nvidia wants? Kinda makes you wonder....

 

[lexluthermiester]

Largely depends on what kinda games you play.

Um..

For the games that utilize it correctly, the results are stunning.

...yes, that is what I implied..

The vast majority of people only really play multiplayer games, where you essentially do not want to use rt.. more like lowest settings you can use.

That is an assumption on your part, a very poor one.

 

[Dragam1337]

That is an assumption on your part, a very poor one.

Yeah, super poor - it's totally not like multiplayer games like csgo are miles ahead of any singleplayer game on steam charts over how many people are playing the games.

 

[AusWolf]

You mock, but RTRT is a selling point. For the games that utilize it correctly, the results are stunning. So yes, the RTRT point is a valid one. Neither AMD nor Intel have the same level of performance NVidia offers. It's a very compelling factor in a buying choice.

Yes, at the same price or a little bit more. But for $200 (20%) more? I'd argue that (the comment was about 4080 vs 7900 XTX).

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Yes, at the same price or a little bit more. But for $200 (20%) more? I'd argue that (the comment was about 4080 vs 7900 XTX).

When somebody is already paying 1k on a gpu it better be good at everything not just raster this is probably half the reason amd gave up in this segment.


If rdna4 is as good as the rumors amd is probably kicking themselves if a 9900XTX was 30% better tha. A 7900XTX and actually good at RT it would sell like hotcakes at 1k.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes, at the same price or a little bit more. But for $200 (20%) more?

The price is less the concern when someone just wants something.

I'd argue that (the comment was about 4080 vs 7900 XTX).

Because the thread is about the 5080? I'll admit I might have missed a finer point somewhere in that discussion..

 

[AusWolf]

The price is less the concern when someone just wants something.

Just wanting something is not a reason to forget about price and value. That's the dividing line between an educated consumer and an idiot.

Because the thread is about the 5080?

Yes. Check out the context of said conversation. In short, it began with comparing the 5080 to the 4080 or 4080S. I argued the 4080S makes more sense because the 4080 was bad value compared to the 7900 XTX.