Processors in EU Retail Channel Could Lose "Unnecessary Packaging," Possibly even Stock Coolers

[Franzen4Real]

That is an issue which people are starting to talk about now, admittedly this isn't just an EU problem with (excessive) packaging & the likes. A lot of e-tailers here are just sending products in paper bags/boxes without any bubble wrap or adequate protection & maybe half the time they're either damaging the outer packaging or the electronic items themselves

Exactly.

My 5950X arrived with the packaging crushed (purchased from the AMD webstore btw). So if the EU or anyone else wants to slim down wasteful packaging sizes, fine, but whatever they come up with had better be able to withstand simple shipping. In my case the excess packaging wasn't wasteful at all, and instead probably saved AMD from scraping/replacing a perfectly fine CPU.

 

[Tek-Check]

Really how can you not know this?

This was a silly regulation for supermarkets, but luckily it's dead. The scope of it was exaggerated by media, but I agree it was idiotic.
There's a new generation of citizens educated on organic food awareness. They are ok with imperfect shapes and cannot fathom the idocy of some past beaurocrats detached from real world. This is, of course, balanced by way more packages of clever bearocreatic decisions that media outlets do not report often because those are not attention-grabbing news like the shape of banana. For example, there are no roaming fees across 27 countries, and many more.

Mind you, majority of consumers in the EU still enjoy buying their fruit, veg, meat, etc at local food markets, not in supermarkets. Fresh food markets are hugely popular across many countries. I always attend them when I travel around and they are always full of people enjoying their time.

 

[Vayra86]

If anything in packaging really needs to die an expeditious death, it is The blister packaging.

Hard plastic you can cut your finger on and is nearly impossible to open, always a pita to return because you'll have cut up the packaging entirely to get to your item... and well... all plastic. Plus if you are too impatient and the item inside said blister is not durable, you'll simply tear the item apart trying to jank it out of the package.

It gets even better when the instruction manual is plastered on the inside of said blister so if you do cut it open with scissors, you've also got two 50% instruction manuals.

 

[_roman_]

Amazon is the only retailer that I know who's being cheap on that aspect. If they don't use a small box, they will just ship it in the product box.

Amazon logistics made such damage in my 350€ ASUS Proart PA278QV monitor original box, so i returned it. I did not even accept it. I worked in the electronic field and I'll just do not accept garbage. I paid for it, i want a relative nice box. Another time I had some white powder, some chemicals all over my bigger hardware box. I can not remember what. I repair stuff. I do not want it predamaged hardware.

Just for comparison, I bought for work also 27" monitors for 80-110€ including tax at that time, price per piece.

Amazon packaging is well documented to be absurdly oversized.

Recently I got my stuff in paper trash bags from amazon. PAper trash bags, like on an airplane when you puke.
Or in the original packaging.

edit: typo

edit2: I purchased one order which contained two - five liter motoroil bottles for my car from amazon. that outside box looked like someone played basketball with the box and did not catch the box several times. poor packaging. I forced the driver to wait until i opened the box and checked if there was liquid spillage.

Another time also box was such damaged recently, that i also say. look 350€ smartphone in it. we open it together before i give the amazon logistics subcontract company the access code for accepting the parcel. I dislike packaging which is not theft proof or is easily damaged.

Thomann.de is able to deliver with nearly no wasted space two big ADAM T8V speakers. Proper sturdy packaging
Teufel.de is unable to deliver via ups big subwoofer. (Note: packaging has a purpose)

 

[R0H1T]

Recently I got my stuff in paper trash bags from amazon. PAper trash bags, like on an airplane when you puke.
Or in the original packaging.

It's been like this since at least 2-3 years here, probably just after the last Covid wave

They're easily the worst when it comes to packing/sending items nicely

 

[AusWolf]

It's been like this since at least 2-3 years here, probably just after the last Covid wave

They're easily the worst when it comes to packing/sending items nicely

That's because Amazon is a massive company, so your product goes through lots of lowly skilled minimum wage warehouse workers (and their bosses) who don't give a damn. They've got KPIs to hit, they don't have time to handle things nicely. I work in logistics. I've seen things.

 

[Chrispy_]

IMO the stock coolers are far better than some of the really cheap jank that qualifies as a CPU cooler on Amazon/eBay/AliExpress/Temu/Wish.

It would be good if the lower-end CPUs that can be reasonably cooled by a stock cooler come in two SKUs - with cooler, and without, and I keep a few stock coolers around because they're handy compact things to have for testing and emergencies, even if you would normally use a more potent solution.

 

[3valatzy]

EU doing what they do best, regulating rather than innovating.

I would say dictating, because it's run by dictators who think they are "liberals". Yes, they allow themselves the freedom to rule without democracy.

The EU has arguably the safest food on the planet thanks to those regulations.

That's of course nowhere near the truth. They still use ferrocyanide as an anti-caking agent, but is extremely toxic.

It is about time this obsolete empire finally falls and releases its colonies from slavery..

 

[Chrispy_]

I kinda like the idea, I have so many unused boxed coolers from AMD and Intel and I dispose them yearly at the recycling yard......so yeah nothing against it. People that are buying CPUs for DIY-PCs should be able to buy a proper cooler.

I sell unused box coolers on ebay for beer money - unopened AMD Wraith Prisms going for £20 get snatched up very quickly, so I keep listing them; Ignore the fact they are "free" coolers, they are half-decent low-cost coolers that some people want because they're branded, RGBLED, and plenty good enough for 65W SKUs. Sure, they could buy a thermalright tower cooler for the same money but they won't get the cool RGBLED ring and AMD logo, and clearly that's enough to sway some people. What do I care? I'm getting paid and the customer is always right in matters of taste.

£100-200 a month for a rinse-and-repeat, zero-effort ebay listing that involves me doing nothing more than printing off some address labels that are auto-generated by ebay. Why throw them in the bin when they are so easy to change into real money?

I would say dictating, because it's run by dictators who think they are "liberals". Yes, they allow themselves the freedom to rule without democracy.



That's of course nowhere near the truth. They still use ferrocyanide as an anti-caking agent, but is extremely toxic.

It is about time this obsolete empire finally falls and releases its colonies from slavery..

There’s Ferrocyanide in Our Food. What Should We Do About It?

Ferrocyanide is an odorless yellow solid that mixes with water and is used mainly in food as an anticaking agent. But is ferrocyanide OK?

paleofoundation.com

It's not dangerous to humans at all.

Things that are dangerous to humans include flouride (in water), chlorine (swimming pools), alcohol (beer, wines, spirits), carbon monoxide (being outside in a place that has cars), and just about every vitamin you can think of, if consumed in the wrong quantities.

The EU is advised by health organisations, who are advised by qualified medical experts. Maybe occasionally they make mistakes, but on the whole EU food is pretty safe because of the regulations.

 

[3valatzy]

It's not dangerous to humans at all.

I think it's extremely dangerous. There are acids in your stomach.

 

[Chrispy_]

I think it's extremely dangerous. There are acids in your stomach.

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We're getting really off-topic now, but since the burden of proof is on your insane claims, can you cite (with links/evidence/journals) how many people have been killed by Ferrocyanide to date. As in, EVER?

Ferrocyanide is "toxic" you say, because it has the word cyanide in the compound name. I'd be curious to hear your opinion on sodium chloride:

• Sodium is a highly unstable alkali metal that reacts with an aggressive exothermic reaction if it gets wet to create sodium hydroxide (which is toxic and can cause severe burns, permanent damage, or death) and hydrogen gas (which can explode violently like the Hindenburg Zeppelin killing 36 people and severely burned/disfigured 63 more)
• Chlorine is a highly reactive element that is proven to cause permanent lung damage, blindness, and is a key part of the active ingredient in bleach, which can be fatal if swallowed.

So, uh, stay away from sodium chloride, it sounds ReAlLy DaNgErOuS!

 

[AusWolf]

We're getting really off-topic now, but since the burden of proof is on your insane claims, can you cite (with links/evidence/journals) how many people have been killed by Ferrocyanide to date. As in, EVER?

Ferrocyanide is "toxic" you say, because it has the word cyanide in the compound name. I'd be curious to hear your opinion on sodium chloride:

• Sodium is a highly unstable alkali metal that reacts with an aggressive exothermic reaction if it gets wet to create sodium hydroxide (which is toxic and can cause severe burns, permanent damage, or death) and hydrogen gas (which can explode violently like the Hindenburg Zeppelin killing 36 people and severely burned/disfigured 63 more)
• Chlorine is a highly reactive element that is proven to cause permanent lung damage, blindness, and is a key part of the active ingredient in bleach, which can be fatal if swallowed.

So, uh, stay away from sodium chloride, it sounds ReAlLy DaNgErOuS!

You've convinced me, I'm not gonna eat anything for the rest of my life.

Only joking. I love food, even if it's toxic. A short, but happy life is arguably better than a long, but sad one.

 

[Chrispy_]

You've convinced me, I'm not gonna eat anything for the rest of my life.

Only joking. I love food, even if it's toxic. A short, but happy life is arguably better than a long, but sad one.

I've just finished murdering myself with a healthy dose of peanuts coated in deadly sodium chloride and washed down with some toxic ethanol-infused grape juice. I probably have mere minutes left to live...
It's been nice knowing y'all.