AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT "Red Devil" AIB Card Leaks With 900-watt PSU Requirement

Dr. Dro · 2025-02-14T23:04:10+0000

freeagent said:
If you have a 5090, you don't have a sensible system lol.

You can justify away you're reasons for getting a 5090, but sensibility is not one of them.

I feel horribly called out and mine hasn't even arrived yet! :laugh:

Broken Processor · 2025-02-14T23:13:37+0000

Personally I don't care about the power draw if the performance is there. But 900w recommended for the gen following the 7900xtx on a mid range card no less better beat it or I'd see this as a regression

LabRat 891 · 2025-02-14T23:17:40+0000

Something that took me *years* to realize... The reason for the seemingly-huge PSU wattage recc. isn't an expectation of other hardware, or the avg. power needs of the card.
-it's hold-up time/capacitance, to sustain transient high-current periods.

The Red Devil is probably just more 'unrestrained' than their other models and *can* spike transient loads well above continuous load wattage.

Dahita · 2025-02-15T00:59:24+0000

3valatzy said:
If you go for comparisons, RTX 5090 is the "ferrari", this here is like lower-end Skoda.
AMD is scalping hard, inflation also strikes badly.

This GPU should cost not more than 400$. Period.

You have tests that we don't?!

_roman_ · 2025-02-15T01:01:29+0000

Nostras said:
Let me word that differently, do PSUs only power a GPU and nothing else?

A few will run E-GPU setups which may use an extra ATX PSU. Anyway in that case a smaller PSU may be enough anyway.

Dahita · 2025-02-15T01:07:54+0000

I don't get you guys. It's an amazing news. If they did their job right, more power needed = more performance, more overclocking capabilities. Why the crying before the reviews?

Visible Noise · 2025-02-15T03:03:18+0000

Dahita said:
I don't get you guys. It's an amazing news. If they did their job right, more power needed = more performance, more overclocking capabilities. Why the crying before the reviews?

Look up the history of Vega. 9070 XT is turning into Vega 2.0

freeagent · 2025-02-15T03:31:48+0000

Nostras said:
Then I don't understand your post. It sounded like you were languishing about the fact that 1kW and even 1.2kW PSUs are commonplace and necessary nowadays.

Not at all. I have hurt plenty of 850w units since 2009, which is when I should have started running 1000w units. Right now I am ok for clean stable power

LabRat 891 · 2025-02-15T03:54:15+0000

Visible Noise said:
Look up the history of Vega. 9070 XT is turning into Vega 2.0

All GPUs, CPUs, etc. have an 'efficiency band' for clocks:voltages:thermals.
Historically, it's not been terribly uncommon for a 'mid' product to be OC'able to an entire higher 'performance tier'
BUT, always at huge thermal and efficiency costs.

Vega 2.0 was Radeon VII / MI50-MI60. Sadly, the Radeon VIIs all have a strong tendency to self-terminate from thermal warping.
Post-RDNA4 "UDNA" will be the figurative-literal Vega 3.0 :laugh:

Jism · 2025-02-15T05:59:54+0000

Dr. Dro said:
It's just a high performance design, no need for alarm. It's just not the power sipping, 180 W GPU a lot of people were expecting, though. The regular models will all be around 300 to 350 W power limit, and these enhanced units will likely reach for 450 W and beyond once overclocked.

Jup. It's a recommended PSU, based off the rest of your system.

There was a far ancient history where people would assemble high end systems but buy a ATX case with a no-name "350~650W" PSU.

Many of those PSU's where chinese knockoffs that where not even capable of doing 350W sustained. Lots of hardware blew back in the days because of it, giving brands like Intel, AMD, Nvidia and such a bad name.

And the return rate on those cases where 7 out of 10.

Caring1 · 2025-02-15T06:44:40+0000

TheinsanegamerN said:
If you are worried about power bills you shouldnt be buying $600+ GPUs. Period.

Ferrari owners dont cry about the cost of gas.

No, this is just the normal overspeccing of PSUs to mitigate warranty claims. This has been normal business for the last 15 years at lease. I actually wonder why this is news? What next, people freak out when the recommended specs of a game specify high end CPUs?

$600+ GPUs are NOT Ferraris, they shouldn't consume as much power as they do.

3valatzy · 2025-02-15T07:05:30+0000

TheinsanegamerN said:
It's not 2009 anymore.

Back in 2008, 2009 the high-end Radeon HD 4800 series was below $200.
$400 is 100% inflation. How much inflation do you want? 1000%?

TheinsanegamerN said:
AMD isnt going to take a loss on their GPUs so people can get cheaper nVidia cards.

This is a joke? Right?

Quicks · 2025-02-15T07:22:29+0000

Maybe AMD 9070 series has some bad electricity spikes. Poor design or they clocked it way too high to try and compete with Nvidia.

Jtuck9 · 2025-02-15T07:34:29+0000

3valatzy said:
Back in 2008, 2009 the high-end Radeon HD 4800 series was below $200.
$400 is 100% inflation. How much inflation do you want? 1000%?

Gigabyte Radeon RX 9070 XT purchased and unboxed ahead of launch - VideoCardz.com

Gigabyte RX 9070 XT unboxed and pictured Looks like scalpers or retailers got their hands on RDNA4 cards too early. What happens when there is a large stock of GPUs and companies decide to change the launch date by over a month? Cards end up on the black market, and where there is demand, there […]

videocardz.com

Bomby569 · 2025-02-15T09:08:09+0000

3valatzy said:
Back in 2008, 2009 the high-end Radeon HD 4800 series was below $200.
$400 is 100% inflation. How much inflation do you want? 1000%?

to be fair if you look at those cards, simple PCB, very few components and a garbage dump plastic shroud and fan

Luminescent · 2025-02-15T09:35:12+0000

If it sucks power slightly below or equal to a 7900 xtx then it might be a very good performer, 7900 xtx is on 5 nm chiplet design, inefficient compared to monolithic, we might actually be surprised by AMD.
Price will be high if card is good.

Bomby569 · 2025-02-15T10:06:20+0000

Luminescent said:
If it sucks power slightly below or equal to a 7900 xtx then it might be a very good performer, 7900 xtx is on 5 nm chiplet design, inefficient compared to monolithic, we might actually be surprised by AMD.
Price will be high if card is good.

AMD specifically said they wouldn't compete on the high end. This just seems like a silicon pushed to it's limits on clock speeds very much like Intel did with their cpus, i don't see another explanation

SIGSEGV · 2025-02-15T12:03:13+0000

I don't get why they have blatantly choked these GPUs with an insane amount of power. To compete with 5080 or what?
Halving that amount to compete with 5070ti and priced at 549 will be a massive win!

Dragokar · 2025-02-15T12:07:01+0000

Well tbh they mostly overrate the psu “requirement” due to some really crappy units out there. Nowadays, it is also important to cover potential spike in power draw, that might be the reason. Especially since the Red Devil is always a card for the higher bracket.

Just relax and wait......my estimate is still 9070~230W TDP and 9070XT ~280W TDP.

Bomby569 · 2025-02-15T12:07:19+0000

SIGSEGV said:
I don't get why they have blatantly choked these GPUs with an insane amount of power. To compete with 5080 or what?
Halving that amount to compete with 5070ti and priced at 549 will be a massive win!

silicon is expensive and apparently they use lots of it. Possible they couldn't make it work competitively besides more silicon or higher clocks. competing with 4080 not 5080

Zach_01 · 2025-02-15T12:21:29+0000

I have a 7900XTX with a Corsair HX750i PSU ATX v2.4
My daily run is with the GPU at 382W
With 5900X and the rest of the system, the avg power consumption is around 500W with ~600W peak.

This is from HWiNFO64 as the PSU has digital monitoring for output power. That is between 65% (avg) and 80% (peak) load which is perfectly fine for a quality PSU.

So the stock 7900XTX at 355W with +15% from drivers (408W) can be supported by a quality 750W, if a user already has it before the GPU.

For new build systems I would suggest a 850W when the GPU is around 400W.

HD64G · 2025-02-15T13:59:04+0000

Come on guys. Everytime the same uneeded panic over a non-issue. 9070XT will be ~300W GPUs or ~350W for pre-oced AIB models. Whoever is relevant to PCs know that a quality 600W PSU will be more than enough if your CPU doesn't need close or over 200W. My 250W RX6750XT runs perfectly for months on a gold-rated seasonic 450W paired with a 95W tuned Ryzen 5600 with tuned RAM, 2 HDDs, 2 SSDs, 3 case fans, and a few usb devices. Those "requiements" as usual, refer to low quality PSUs.

AusWolf · 2025-02-15T14:08:03+0000

You'll get maybe 2% better performance over the base model for such requirement. Pointless. I don't understand why doesn't everybody get something like a Sapphire Pulse (or Asus Dual on Nvidia) these days.

RaphaelOne · 2025-02-15T14:38:53+0000

For common sense, silence and elegance, when will we see the RX9070 XL SilentUV Edition?

Shou Miko · 2025-02-15T15:38:03+0000

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