Nvidia's GPU market share hits 90% in Q4 2024 (gets closer to full monopoly)

[freeagent]

I still have my 580 Fermi, that card I know for sure can run at 100c no problem in SLI lol..

I leant the other one to a "friend" and never heard from him again.

 

[Dr. Dro]

If you only want to go back to when "RT started" sure but that's not the true if you go further back.

The HD 5870 was better than the GTX 480. & was the first card to support tessellation.

People still bought the hot, overpriced GTX 480 Over the HD 5870 even when they had 2Gb model out, & waited for the GTX 580 refresh 8 months later.

If you want to cherry pick for "RT" only sure.

I think you're misremembering things. The 5870 came earlier, but it was not better than the 480. Specifically if you're talking tessellation, Fermi murdered anything TeraScale. It wasn't just bodied, it was outright murdered

Source: the original Anand 580 review from November 2010, in the meantime, peruse HD 5870's performance after roughly a year in the market (hint: not exactly faster than Fermi, in the DX10 games from the review suite at the time, HD 5870 was around the GTX 470's level of performance, maybe a bit higher, but almost always behind the 480).

NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 580: Fermi Refined

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I had both of them at the time, to be specific, an HD 5970 and 3 GTX 480s for SLI. Par for the course, AMD driver devs were already brainlets at that time and had the absolute genius idea to force CrossFire on and disable it selectively through app profiles while removing the ability for the user to manually disable it. Went as well as you'd expect. I even found an ancient thread here at TPU about it!

How to disable CF on a 5970?

Am I doing it right? You put the slider all the way down to 'performance' and untick the 'enable surface format optimization'?

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[Zazigalka]

The current nvidia cards below 1000 euros are all 12 gb OR the 4060ti. That is not enough to run raytracing with hig textures in CURRENT games, let alone future ones. AMD has such a better long term value it's not even close. And the fact that reviewers don't look at missing textures while benchmarking as shown by the 3070 vs 6800xt in 2023 video from HWUnboxed is a huge part of the problem.

The fact that 8GB is often times not enough (4060ti vs 7700xt below) doesn't really translate to 12GB performing badly (4070S/Ti vs 7900gre/7900xt/x below).



BTW, those ultra textures pack are a placebo, just look below.
high vs supreme (3 presets up, high-ultra-very ultra-supreme)
they're a way for nvidia to upsell 4080/4070Ti Super

Imgsli

Imgsli

Fact is, people who chose 7900gre/xt over 4070Ti/S for textures simply played themselves according to amd's playbook. now they're missing better rt performance, a better upscaler and waste nvme space on worthless 50GB texture packs. The comparisons above are still generous for amd, fsr balanced looks nowhere near as good as dlss balanced. I'm sorry if this makes you sad or angry given your apparent brand loyalty, but it is what it is. Cards under 4090/5090/5080/4080 all carry some sort of trade-off attached to their price, and it doesn't look like choosing textures over other features is worth it.

 

[JustBenching]

Have you ever seen a reference nvidia card? I have never in my entire life seen a 20, 30 or 40 series reference in real life, and i run a repair business with 2 employees. They are a fake product just like their fake prices. I have never seen an AMD reference aswell TBH, but had many friends in recent years buy them from the official website drops (they just didnt have any issue with their machines so far).

By reference you mean FE? FE are not reference cards and yes, I have an FE right here.

Why does it matter how many years back it was
IT STILL FACTS & can be proven true.

You still completely ignored the other half of my comment where I said it doesn't matter if AMD makes/made a better card the consumer is dumb & will continue to buy Nvidia cards even when AMD cards are priced 30% less while retaining a comfortable performance lead of 10% or more over Nvidia Even when they use less power.

Nothing has changed from 16 years ago because the consumer is dumb as box of rocks "Hur dur dur buy Nvidia it's the best out there." That is literally the mentality of consumers for the past 20 years on GPU from AMD vs Nvidia.

Regardless of how good a card or how much cheaper AMD makes =

Uhm , you do realize back when ATI was actually making good cards the market share was 40-60 to 50-50 and nowhere near 90-10, right? Nobody is dumb but people calling other people dumb cause they disagree with their buying decisions. I don't why you, people of a specific camp, feel the need to remind us every single day on every single thread how much smarter than everyone else you are for buying from this multibillion $$$ company instead of the other, but chill out, you are not.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

I think you're misremembering things. The 5870 came earlier, but it was not better than the 480. Specifically if you're talking tessellation, Fermi murdered anything TeraScale. It wasn't just bodied, it was outright murdered

Source: the original Anand 580 review fom November 2010, in the meantime, peruse HD 5870's performance after roughly a year in the market (hint: not exactly faster than Fermi, in the DX10 games from the review suite at the time, HD 5870 was around the GTX 470's level of performance, maybe a bit higher, but almost always behind the 480).

GTX 280 TDP 236W Release Date Jun 16th, 2008 Launch Price $649 USD
HD 5870 TDP 188W Release Date Sep 23rd, 2009 Launch Price $399 USD
GTX 480 TDP 250 W Release Date Mar 26th, 2010 Launch Price $499 USD

HD 5870 cards literally sat on the shelf for 6 months until Nvidia brought out a card that used more power, more expensive, & faster card.

Regardless of how good a card or how much cheaper AMD makes =

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Those HD 5870 cards were not even priced at MSRP by then they were below $350 a month later like at $330. ( I remember buying one at that price) . They were 30% to 50% under the GTX 480's launch price, while Nvidia only took off 10%. to $450 of the GTX 480.

 

[JustBenching]

is there any kind of a significant feature difference?

Yes, there are hugely significant feature differences. For example, nvidia broadcast is mandatory if you are playing online with friends over discord etc. RTX resolution and RTX Hdr to turn low quality / non hdr content from youtube or otherwise into high quality high dynamic range. Then you get a huge delta in RT performance, any game with RT worth talking about is simply not playable on an AMD card cause they are very, very very slow.

 

[AusWolf]

Marketing? Who pays attention to that?

That is for sheep, don't be a sheep.

If AMD made a better product, more people would buy it, plain and simple.

What better products? Can you not play your games on an AMD graphics card?

This is exactly the mindset the post above yours was talking about.

Yes, there are hugely significant feature differences. For example, nvidia broadcast is mandatory if you are playing online with friends over discord etc. RTX resolution and RTX Hdr to turn low quality / non hdr content from youtube or otherwise into high quality high dynamic range. Then you get a huge delta in RT performance, any game with RT worth talking about is simply not playable on an AMD card cause they are very, very very slow.

I wouldn't say these features were a deciding factor for the vast majority of people shopping for a graphics card. Most people just want to play games. I have never heard of Nvidia Broadcast, for example.

 

[Frick]

nvidia broadcast is mandatory if you are playing online with friends over discord etc.

None of my group have RTX cards and we're doing fine.. What is mandatory is headphones (for Discord, which sucks, Zoom is heaps better).

 

[inquisitor1]

Good thing Intel getting into the mix as NVIDIA exits the gaming market in the next few years.

sarcasm, yes?

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

By reference you mean FE? FE are not reference cards and yes, I have an FE right here.

Yes, what else? Not reference PCB, reference cards. AMD Reference Radeon 7 was a reference card, same as founder for nvidia, it is always made the same exact and sold at the MSRP that's why i bought so many.

https://www.guru3d.com/review/review-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-reference-edition/ here it is for you a REFERENCE CARD.

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Yes, let’s:

MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Ventus 3X OC Review

NVIDIA has launched the GeForce RTX 5070 Ti today, lifting the review embargo. The MSI RTX 5070 Ti Ventus 3X comes at NVIDIA MSRP of $750, yet includes a small factory overclock. In terms of performance, the Ventus is able to compete with RTX 4080 Super and RX 7900 XTX.

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Funny though that you didn’t compare the 3070 to the 5700, you know, the same generation. How’s that 5700 doing in ray traced games? Oh, wait…

Dell RTX 4090 OEM Specs

NVIDIA AD102, 2520 MHz, 16384 Cores, 512 TMUs, 176 ROPs, 24576 MB GDDR6X, 1313 MHz, 384 bit

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So you had to actively engage something to get the error. I did not have this luxury when BF2042 was crashing on every nvidia card i tested, i do not even install the geforce experience app at all.

5700 was never the competitor to the 3070, of course, that is complete nonsense. Totally different market time and price segment.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-5700.c3437 vs https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3070.c3674 vs https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6800.c3713

That page does not show a Reference nvidia card, there is not even a picture. I think you don't know what a reference card is, with the reference cooler and all. Founders Edition. The fact you cannot understand what the difference between a CARD and PCB is, shows you clearly have zero clue about hardware. Go talk about software please.

5870 is from 2009. You had to go back 16 years to make an “AMD is better than Nvidia” argument?

Someone said the gtx480 was better than the 4870, just like you said the 3070 was better than the 5700- you know, totally different gen and price points, you take previous gen AMD card to compare instead of the same gen.

Yes, there are hugely significant feature differences. For example, nvidia broadcast is mandatory if you are playing online with friends over discord etc. RTX resolution and RTX Hdr to turn low quality / non hdr content from youtube or otherwise into high quality high dynamic range. Then you get a huge delta in RT performance, any game with RT worth talking about is simply not playable on an AMD card cause they are very, very very slow.

Wow so you mean we cannot be using discord for AOE 4 multiplayer because we are running chinese rx580 2048sp and have been for 5 years in our personal machines. We must be superiori human beings able to do that without nvidia broadcast.

yes, if you turn down textures you can have the muddy smeared surfaces shine better with a 12 gb 4070.

None of my group have RTX cards and we're doing fine.. What is mandatory is headphones (for Discord, which sucks, Zoom is heaps better).

maybe nvidia users users need all the help they can get to compensate some cognitive difference?

 

[JustBenching]

Yes, what else? Not reference PCB, reference cards. AMD Reference Radeon 7 was a reference card, same as founder for nvidia, it is always made the same exact and sold at the MSRP that's why i bought so many.

FEs are not reference cards. Reference cards are the lowest spec boards allowed by nvidia. FEs are exactly not that.

Wow so you mean we cannot be using discord for AOE 4 multiplayer because we are running chinese rx580 2048sp and have been for 5 years in our personal machines. We must be superiori human beings able to do that without nvidia broadcast.

yes, if you turn down textures you can have the muddy smeared surfaces shine better with a 12 gb 4070.


maybe nvidia users users need all the help they can get to compensate some cognitive difference?

Showing up on discord without broadcast to suppress background noise (eg from your gf watching TV)...whatever man, you wanna makes this into an amd vs nv, sign me off.

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

FEs are not reference cards. Reference cards are the lowest spec boards allowed by nvidia. FEs are exactly not that.

Review: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition (reference)

Oh boy, has it been a wait and while, but today is the day that we finally get to review the GeForce RTX 5090.This flagship graphics card aimed at thoroughbred gamers is armed and stuffed with the latest technologies and that mighty Blackwell GB202 graphics processor.

www.guru3d.com

If you do not understand what i mean with reference card, please look at nVidia website and how the term is used in reviews and forums.

 

[JustBenching]

Review: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition (reference)

Oh boy, has it been a wait and while, but today is the day that we finally get to review the GeForce RTX 5090.This flagship graphics card aimed at thoroughbred gamers is armed and stuffed with the latest technologies and that mighty Blackwell GB202 graphics processor.

www.guru3d.com

If you do not understand what i mean with reference card, please look at nVidia website and how the term is used in reviews and forums.

Your first image explained it perfectly, that's exactly what im saying. FE cards are not reference, havent' been for a while. The minimum hardware specs are the reference cards, FEs aren't that. They have way superior VRMs to the reference spec.

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

FEs are not reference cards. Reference cards are the lowest spec boards allowed by nvidia. FEs are exactly not that.


Showing up on discord without broadcast to suppress background noise (eg from your gf watching TV)...whatever man, you wanna makes this into an amd vs nv, sign me off.

Been doing that on different voice chat services for 25 years my friend. Never had nvidia broadcast. Never won any tournament myself, but plenty of firends were competitive players back then. Nothing mandatory about nvidia broadcast for us, maybe we are more gifted, not sure.

Your first image explained it perfectly, that's exactly what im saying. FE cards are not reference, havent' been for a while. The minimum hardware specs are the reference cards, FEs aren't that. They have way superior VRMs to the reference spec.

Can you point me to anyone referring to a reference card that is not a FE in the media? The other one heard reference PCB and had no clue what the difference is. I guess it's the same for you?

 

[JustBenching]

Been doing that on different voice chat services for 25 years my friend. Never had nvidia broadcast. Never won any tournament myself, but plenty of firends were competitive players back then. Nothing mandatory about nvidia broadcast for us, maybe we are more gifted, not sure.

Do you understand that being good or competitve has nothing to do with it (im top 1% on dota 2 btw). You are bothering everyone else on the discord channel if you don't run broadcast. I can't make it any simpler but whatever, you do you

Can you point me to anyone referring to a reference card that is not a FE in the media? The other one heard reference PCB and had no clue what the difference is. I guess it's the same for you?

I don't care what the media refers to, FEs are NOT reference cards. The image you yourself posted explained the difference. Why are you stuck on this?

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

Do they kick out anyone that plays on AMD cards on your discord servers? Not happening on ours. Where is the "mandatory" you talk about?

 

[JustBenching]

Do they kick out anyone that plays on AMD cards on your discord servers? Not happening on ours. Where is the "mandatory" you talk about?

Ok man, it's better to have background noise cause everyone likes to hear your tv / dog / kid / wife / traffic out of the window. You got me, I give up.

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

See, there is no background noise in this conversation yet you are making things up and fail to understand the english language you and others are using. The lack of that nVidia feature was never the problem in the first place.

The fact that 8GB is often times not enough (4060ti vs 7700xt below) doesn't really translate to 12GB performing badly (4070S/Ti vs 7900gre/7900xt/x below).

The fact that was a 2023 video and we are into 2025 and that is how things go, 7970 vs gtx680 was fair when they launched, the former is now even better than the 780ti. You might want to buy a card to play future games and not RT makeover of old ones. Up to you to decide, but current gen consoles have 16gb of ram that the GPU can access.

 

[Frick]

maybe nvidia users users need all the help they can get to compensate some cognitive difference?

Don't be like that. It's cool and functioning tech.

Showing up on discord without broadcast to suppress background noise (eg from your gf watching TV)...

That is definitely a scenario where it would make sense to have. Personally I would just go to a different room or something, or if that is not possible I would try to come to an accord with the partner that we both wear headphones, but whatever. It's also probably a philisophical difference: I definitely am not bothered by natural noises. If I talk to someone who is in their home I wouldn't be bothered if I hear noises that belong there. This might be a me thing, but I think I would genuinely be more disturbed by a complete lack of noise. It would feel unnatural. Also boom mics have been a thing for a long time, if you adjust the mic you can lower the gain a ton.

Ok man, it's better to have background noise cause everyone likes to hear your tv / dog / kid / wife / traffic out of the window. You got me, I give up.

I was wondering the same thing actually. If someone in your group got like a 7900xtx or whatever, is that person no longer allowed to play with you?

 

[JustBenching]

The fact that 8GB is often times not enough (4060ti vs 7700xt below) doesn't really translate to 12GB performing badly (4070S/Ti vs 7900gre/7900xt/x below).

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BTW, those ultra textures pack are a placebo, just look below.
high vs supreme (3 presets up, high-ultra-very ultra-supreme)
they're a way for nvidia to upsell 4080/4070Ti Super

Imgsli

Imgsli

Fact is, people who chose 7900gre/xt over 4070Ti/S for textures simply played themselves according to amd's playbook. now they're missing better rt performance, a better upscaler and waste nvme space on worthless 50GB texture packs. The comparisons above are still generous for amd, fsr balanced looks nowhere near as good as dlss balanced. I'm sorry if this makes you sad or angry given your apparent brand loyalty, but it is what it is. Cards under 4090/5090/5080/4080 all carry some sort of trade-off attached to their price, and it doesn't look like choosing textures over other features is worth it.

It's funny cause the whole argument that 12gb isn't enough to run RT + ultra textures is completely pointless since amd cards can't run raytracing to begin with. The more vram ain't going to help you when the XTX is barely holding on against a 4070s in RT.

 

[AusWolf]

Showing up on discord without broadcast to suppress background noise (eg from your gf watching TV)...whatever man, you wanna makes this into an amd vs nv, sign me off.

So Nvidia Broadcast is for people who want to play online, talking on Discord while their GFs are watching TV in the same room and are totally not bothered by their BF. Gotcha. Must be a big majority of people.

 

[JustBenching]

That is definitely a scenario where it would make sense to have. Personally I would just go to a different room or something, or if that is not possible I would try to come to an accord with the partner that we both wear headphones, but whatever. It's also probably a philisophical difference: I definitely am not bothered by natural noises. If I talk to someone who is in their home I wouldn't be bothered if I hear noises that belong there. This might be a me thing, but I think I would genuinely be more disturbed by a complete lack of noise. It would feel unnatural. Also boom mics have been a thing for a long time, if you adjust the mic you can lower the gain a ton.

I kid you not, my GF that has an insanely good mic can pick up my voice across 2 rooms during her job meetings. So can my mic (i have an open broadcast mic) when im on discord calls. It might not be an issue when it's just 2 people on a call, but usually my whole group of friends is there (5 to 10 people) and it gets wild.

Whenever I join the discord without having broadcast open everyone screams at me "BROOOOOOOOADCAST". The difference with it on or off is nuts. This is the top comment on the video you just posted

This is amazing, while people who work at home has either to hate their kids or their jobs.. Nvidia went around and found a solution. Engineering at its finest application

I was wondering the same thing actually. If someone in your group got like a 7900xtx or whatever, is that person no longer allowed to play with you?

LOL, of course they are, but they have to mute the mic and only enable it when they want to talk.

So Nvidia Broadcast is for people who want to play online, talking on Discord while their GFs are watching TV in the same room and are totally not bothered by their BF. Gotcha. Must be a big majority of people.

No, its for people that want to be on a call (business, gaming, friends etc.) without having everyone else on the call hear absolutely everything that's going on in the house or outside.

 

[AusWolf]

No, its for people that want to be on a call (business, gaming, friends etc.) without having everyone else on the call hear absolutely everything that's going on in the house or outside.

I don't know. My phone cancels outside noise pretty fine without Nv Broadcast.

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

It's funny cause the whole argument that 12gb isn't enough to run RT + ultra textures is completely pointless since amd cards can't run raytracing to begin with. The more vram ain't going to help you when the XTX is barely holding on against a 4070s in RT.

That was supposedly the same with 3070 vs 6800 when they came out in late 2020, then in 2023 everything was already different. Just like Indiana Jones is not running on ultra with high RT on the 12 gb cards and it's a 2024 game, not in the future Sure if you want to get a new one every other year you can burn money on nvidia cards. I value long term life of the cards and texture quality more than high RT on.

 

[JustBenching]

That was supposedly the same with 3070 vs 6800 when they came out in late 2020, then in 2023 everything was already different. Just like Indiana Jones is not running on ultra with high RT on the 12 gb cards and it's a 2024 game, not in the future Sure if you want to get a new one every other year you can burn money on nvidia cards. I value long term life of the cards and texture quality more than high RT on.

But does indiana jones run ultra with high RT on 16gb amd cards? If not, what's the point you are trying to make? Im confused here. For example, from PCGH - ultra + high RT at 4k, the 3080ti smokes a 6950xt. With PT on the amd cards don't even work, what future proof are you talking about?

The 3080ti is a 12gb card btw

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